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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
If RC were still here, we might hire Penny -- a guy with no experience as head coach or assistant coach. But from the coaching hires this crew has made, I don't think that's the direction they'll go.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 05:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If RC were still here, we might hire Penny -- a guy with no experience as head coach or assistant coach. But from the coaching hires this crew has made, I don't think that's the direction they'll go.

The athletic program has never been flush with cash, but the basketball program spent the better part of 15 years making a pile of dough. Even if Rudd and Bowen don't want to hire Penny, they might have to. I'm not confident that Penny will do a good job, but I am very confident that he will double ticket sales from this year and what they will be next year if Tubby is still coaching.

If we can't find a coach that we are very confident about, we might as well hire a coach that is going to double attendance from Tubby level for at least the next couple of years.

One thing that we for sure can't afford to do is keep Tubby.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 01:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  For us to tell Penny to go to OLE PISS for a year for (whatever reason)----is saying take 4/5 stars to OLE PISS, make them relevant/better ---- while we continue to suck. After we continue to be irrelevant for a couple more years----as we help out OLE PISS or KENTSUCKY ----then we will bring you home. Yea that makes sense .

Are trying to imply that we will rue the day?
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 05:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If RC were still here, we might hire Penny -- a guy with no experience as head coach or assistant coach. But from the coaching hires this crew has made, I don't think that's the direction they'll go.

The athletic program has never been flush with cash, but the basketball program spent the better part of 15 years making a pile of dough. Even if Rudd and Bowen don't want to hire Penny, they might have to. I'm not confident that Penny will do a good job, but I am very confident that he will double ticket sales from this year and what they will be next year if Tubby is still coaching.

If we can't find a coach that we are very confident about, we might as well hire a coach that is going to double attendance from Tubby level for at least the next couple of years.

One thing that we for sure can't afford to do is keep Tubby.

I agree he would sell tickets in the short run, but the long run IS the question. He has no track record. Thinking about the possibilities of having another Memphis Tiger legend as a coach reminds me of what Bear Bryant said about passing the ball. Only three things can happen, and two of them are bad.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 06:03 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If RC were still here, we might hire Penny -- a guy with no experience as head coach or assistant coach. But from the coaching hires this crew has made, I don't think that's the direction they'll go.

The athletic program has never been flush with cash, but the basketball program spent the better part of 15 years making a pile of dough. Even if Rudd and Bowen don't want to hire Penny, they might have to. I'm not confident that Penny will do a good job, but I am very confident that he will double ticket sales from this year and what they will be next year if Tubby is still coaching.

If we can't find a coach that we are very confident about, we might as well hire a coach that is going to double attendance from Tubby level for at least the next couple of years.

One thing that we for sure can't afford to do is keep Tubby.

I agree he would sell tickets in the short run, but the long run IS the question. He has no track record. Thinking about the possibilities of having another Memphis Tiger legend as a coach reminds me of what Bear Bryant said about passing the ball. Only three things can happen, and two of them are bad.

If we are going to lose, we might as well make a pile of money doing it. Rock bottom for Tubby will be the 2020 season. If you've seen FEF on tv or have actually been to games, which most here have, imagine what it will look like after 2 more years of this crap.

Also, Penny might succeed.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 06:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 06:03 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If RC were still here, we might hire Penny -- a guy with no experience as head coach or assistant coach. But from the coaching hires this crew has made, I don't think that's the direction they'll go.

The athletic program has never been flush with cash, but the basketball program spent the better part of 15 years making a pile of dough. Even if Rudd and Bowen don't want to hire Penny, they might have to. I'm not confident that Penny will do a good job, but I am very confident that he will double ticket sales from this year and what they will be next year if Tubby is still coaching.

If we can't find a coach that we are very confident about, we might as well hire a coach that is going to double attendance from Tubby level for at least the next couple of years.

One thing that we for sure can't afford to do is keep Tubby.

I agree he would sell tickets in the short run, but the long run IS the question. He has no track record. Thinking about the possibilities of having another Memphis Tiger legend as a coach reminds me of what Bear Bryant said about passing the ball. Only three things can happen, and two of them are bad.

If we are going to lose, we might as well make a pile of money doing it. Rock bottom for Tubby will be the 2020 season. If you've seen FEF on tv or have actually been to games, which most here have, imagine what it will look like after 2 more years of this crap.

Also, Penny might succeed.

But the choice isn't keeping Tubby or hiring Penny.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
Tubby Smith is going anywhere unfortunately.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 06:00 PM)Bsquared-2 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  For us to tell Penny to go to OLE PISS for a year for (whatever reason)----is saying take 4/5 stars to OLE PISS, make them relevant/better ---- while we continue to suck. After we continue to be irrelevant for a couple more years----as we help out OLE PISS or KENTSUCKY ----then we will bring you home. Yea that makes sense .

Are trying to imply that we will rue the day?

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If (and I hope it doesn’t happen) Penny goes to Oxfart to coach for a year or two before he comes home to lead us to the promised land, does that make ole miss our coaching “farm team”?

BWAHAHAHA!!!!!
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(02-20-2018 07:09 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Tubby Smith is going anywhere unfortunately.

I don't know where anywhere is but I sure hope he gets there soon.
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(02-20-2018 06:00 PM)Bsquared-2 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  For us to tell Penny to go to OLE PISS for a year for (whatever reason)----is saying take 4/5 stars to OLE PISS, make them relevant/better ---- while we continue to suck. After we continue to be irrelevant for a couple more years----as we help out OLE PISS or KENTSUCKY ----then we will bring you home. Yea that makes sense .

Are trying to imply that we will rue the day?

LOL---absolutely.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 05:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If RC were still here, we might hire Penny -- a guy with no experience as head coach or assistant coach. But from the coaching hires this crew has made, I don't think that's the direction they'll go.

The athletic program has never been flush with cash, but the basketball program spent the better part of 15 years making a pile of dough. Even if Rudd and Bowen don't want to hire Penny, they might have to. I'm not confident that Penny will do a good job, but I am very confident that he will double ticket sales from this year and what they will be next year if Tubby is still coaching.

If we can't find a coach that we are very confident about, we might as well hire a coach that is going to double attendance from Tubby level for at least the next couple of years.

One thing that we for sure can't afford to do is keep Tubby.

I think you are the only poster on this forum who realizes HOW MUCH we made in 15 years. Almost akin to being in a P5 conference before the $3-7M A YEAR to subsidize football program who ought to be on their knees thanking Coach Cal. He got what he wanted for BB program and didn't care and had no control where the rest of a helluva lot of money went.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 06:03 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If RC were still here, we might hire Penny -- a guy with no experience as head coach or assistant coach. But from the coaching hires this crew has made, I don't think that's the direction they'll go.

The athletic program has never been flush with cash, but the basketball program spent the better part of 15 years making a pile of dough. Even if Rudd and Bowen don't want to hire Penny, they might have to. I'm not confident that Penny will do a good job, but I am very confident that he will double ticket sales from this year and what they will be next year if Tubby is still coaching.

If we can't find a coach that we are very confident about, we might as well hire a coach that is going to double attendance from Tubby level for at least the next couple of years.

One thing that we for sure can't afford to do is keep Tubby.

I agree he would sell tickets in the short run, but the long run IS the question. He has no track record. Thinking about the possibilities of having another Memphis Tiger legend as a coach reminds me of what Bear Bryant said about passing the ball. Only three things can happen, and two of them are bad.

That's why he had new cars parked in the driveways of recruits that could block, run and play defense.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 02:44 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:27 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:56 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Might as well offer it to him. He can't be worse than the tubbster and the pazz.

Yes. It could be worse. A lot worse.

If Penny doesn't get the stud recruits in the first year or two, you'll be wishing we had Tubby and the 20+ wins we'll get this season.

And, even if Penny were to get some top recruits right off the bat, there is no guarantee that he could maintain any level of success. Coaching at the NCAA Division 1 level is a COMPLETELY different animal than high school or AAU "coaching".

It can't get worse than it is now; impossible. For starters, Tubby is going on year 3 without bringing in a point guard that can run a D1 offense. At the very least, Penny would have one on campus next season.

Yes. It could be MUCH worse. In three years from now, we could be 8-22 under a Memphis legend and in a real pickle.

If he gets the recruits, and I think he will, the record will be reversed or better with two good assistants.
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 10:17 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:44 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:27 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:56 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Might as well offer it to him. He can't be worse than the tubbster and the pazz.

Yes. It could be worse. A lot worse.

If Penny doesn't get the stud recruits in the first year or two, you'll be wishing we had Tubby and the 20+ wins we'll get this season.

And, even if Penny were to get some top recruits right off the bat, there is no guarantee that he could maintain any level of success. Coaching at the NCAA Division 1 level is a COMPLETELY different animal than high school or AAU "coaching".

It can't get worse than it is now; impossible. For starters, Tubby is going on year 3 without bringing in a point guard that can run a D1 offense. At the very least, Penny would have one on campus next season.

Yes. It could be MUCH worse. In three years from now, we could be 8-22 under a Memphis legend and in a real pickle.

If he gets the recruits, and I think he will, the record will be reversed or better with two good assistants.
Quick question. Who do you think Penny gets if he were hired by Memphis tomorrow?

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(02-20-2018 11:34 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 10:17 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:44 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:27 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Yes. It could be worse. A lot worse.

If Penny doesn't get the stud recruits in the first year or two, you'll be wishing we had Tubby and the 20+ wins we'll get this season.

And, even if Penny were to get some top recruits right off the bat, there is no guarantee that he could maintain any level of success. Coaching at the NCAA Division 1 level is a COMPLETELY different animal than high school or AAU "coaching".

It can't get worse than it is now; impossible. For starters, Tubby is going on year 3 without bringing in a point guard that can run a D1 offense. At the very least, Penny would have one on campus next season.

Yes. It could be MUCH worse. In three years from now, we could be 8-22 under a Memphis legend and in a real pickle.

If he gets the recruits, and I think he will, the record will be reversed or better with two good assistants.
Quick question. Who do you think Penny gets if he were hired by Memphis tomorrow?

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1st call - Tony Madlock (Penny’s Tiger teammate with 20 yrs D1 exp);
2nd call - Someone with D1 HC experience...like Murry Bartow;
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RE: This should answer the question of whether or not Penny wants to coach...
(02-20-2018 11:34 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 10:17 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:44 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:27 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Yes. It could be worse. A lot worse.

If Penny doesn't get the stud recruits in the first year or two, you'll be wishing we had Tubby and the 20+ wins we'll get this season.

And, even if Penny were to get some top recruits right off the bat, there is no guarantee that he could maintain any level of success. Coaching at the NCAA Division 1 level is a COMPLETELY different animal than high school or AAU "coaching".

It can't get worse than it is now; impossible. For starters, Tubby is going on year 3 without bringing in a point guard that can run a D1 offense. At the very least, Penny would have one on campus next season.

Yes. It could be MUCH worse. In three years from now, we could be 8-22 under a Memphis legend and in a real pickle.

If he gets the recruits, and I think he will, the record will be reversed or better with two good assistants.
Quick question. Who do you think Penny gets if he were hired by Memphis tomorrow?

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The latter post who listed the top kids in Memphis in a good list to start with. Doubt we get Wiseman and Lomax but everyone else possibly
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(02-21-2018 12:46 AM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 11:34 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 10:17 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:44 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  It can't get worse than it is now; impossible. For starters, Tubby is going on year 3 without bringing in a point guard that can run a D1 offense. At the very least, Penny would have one on campus next season.

Yes. It could be MUCH worse. In three years from now, we could be 8-22 under a Memphis legend and in a real pickle.

If he gets the recruits, and I think he will, the record will be reversed or better with two good assistants.
Quick question. Who do you think Penny gets if he were hired by Memphis tomorrow?

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The latter post who listed the top kids in Memphis in a good list to start with. Doubt we get Wiseman and Lomax but everyone else possibly

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Yall keep listing all the local kids penny could get but he is also still known and respected nationally. He will have a chance to recruit on that level.
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(02-21-2018 07:06 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  Yall keep listing all the local kids penny could get but he is also still known and respected nationally. He will have a chance to recruit on that level.

And Penny will hire (I hope) competent AC’s that recruit with zeal and success.
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