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FIU looking forward to playing the boys from Philly in St. Pete for the Gasparilla Trophy.
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(12-03-2017 05:00 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like SDSU didn’t want to play CSU and we traded the AF for NM.

We already had the NM tie in. I think we traded AF to guarantee the Frisco slot as well as somehow getting MT into Camellia.
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(12-03-2017 04:59 PM)Goherd73 Wrote:  Marshall vs Colorado State in NM Bowl

(12-03-2017 05:03 PM)MTowho Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:00 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like SDSU didn’t want to play CSU and we traded the AF for NM.

We already had the NM tie in. I think we traded AF to guarantee the Frisco slot as well as somehow getting MT into Camellia.

That makes sense. So UTSA got left at the alter to help MTSU and LT?
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(12-03-2017 05:01 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  FIU looking forward to playing the boys from Philly in St. Pete for the Gasparilla Trophy.

Looking forward to it. Should be a great game 04-cheers
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Sad to hear that UTSA got left out, but not surprised.


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Extremely disappointed, but the way we ended the season I’m also not surprised.
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(12-03-2017 04:52 PM)EagleX Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 04:50 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 04:46 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 04:41 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 04:39 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  FAU fans acting like they’re Boise State after one good season. Y’all lost to Buffalo.

We act like fans of a Conference Champion with a 10-3 records on a 9-0 winning streak. And the only season that matters is the current one. We could be on a 150 game losing streak prior to the season, it would not have mattered.

If FAU wanted another CUSA bowl and was told no then there should be
outrage from fans. But if this was the choice of FAU I can understand message board fans being upset. But FAU made that choice. Lets not forget...

you are 40 minutes away and I believe only made 1 home game this season. As I said in that thread...family time is more important. But if that was the case....

being disappointed with who you play, I understand. Being upset when no matter who FAU was playing you were probably not going. Well...I don't see why. Maybe that's why FAU chose to stay home.

Memories of the 2011 Southern Miss Bowl selection. Won CUSA CHAMPIONSHIP has pick of any bowl. Coaches and players picked Hawaii over Dallas against Penn State. Fans were/still pissed.

the soon to be former AD and soon to be HC at UNC picked that bowl.
Just lol yea FAU needs to hire mediocre coaches so they don't leave.
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(12-03-2017 05:03 PM)MTowho Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:00 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like SDSU didn’t want to play CSU and we traded the AF for NM.

We already had the NM tie in. I think we traded AF to guarantee the Frisco slot as well as somehow getting MT into Camellia.

Would love to hear the trading for CUSA/Middle Tennessee to get the MAC’s spot in the Camellia. The MAC had 5 teams in with 7+ wins with 2 more at 6-6...and both those 6 win teams stayed home.

CUSA got 9 of 10
MAC got 5 of 7
Not a bad deal since I believe we had 6 primary and 2 secondary. Would’ve been interesting to see who would’ve taken New Mexico St’s place had they lost yesterday or declined for financial reasons.
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Cue the UTSA meltdown. haha.

If I'm UTSA's AD my first call is to UTEP AD to get the hell out of this conference. My next call is to MWC Commissioner. Conference hung us out to dry.
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(12-03-2017 05:23 PM)usm99 Wrote:  Would love to hear the trading for CUSA/Middle Tennessee to get the MAC’s spot in the Camellia. The MAC had 5 teams in with 7+ wins with 2 more at 6-6...and both those 6 win teams stayed home.

CUSA got 9 of 10
MAC got 5 of 7
Not a bad deal since I believe we had 6 primary and 2 secondary. Would’ve been interesting to see who would’ve taken New Mexico St’s place had they lost yesterday or declined for financial reasons.

At the end of the day, it's likely ESPN calling the shots.
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(12-03-2017 05:29 PM)SApuro Wrote:  Cue the UTSA meltdown. haha.

If I'm UTSA's AD my first call is to UTEP AD to get the hell out of this conference. My next call is to MWC Commissioner. Conference hung us out to dry.

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(12-03-2017 05:08 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:01 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  FIU looking forward to playing the boys from Philly in St. Pete for the Gasparilla Trophy.

Looking forward to it. Should be a great game 04-cheers

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(12-03-2017 05:29 PM)SApuro Wrote:  Cue the UTSA meltdown. haha.

If I'm UTSA's AD my first call is to UTEP AD to get the hell out of this conference. My next call is to MWC Commissioner. Conference hung us out to dry.

In the overall picture UTSA had the worst CUSA record (3-5) of the 4 teams with 6 total wins. Yes the cancelled game with Houston could’ve been win #7 in the end which would make the 3-5 CUSA record an obsolete point. Unfortunately the game wasn’t made up nor was a 12th game added. Middle has seen their fair share of bowl snubs so it was only a matter of who. With CUSA doing trading to get 9 teams eligible you guys just happened to get the short end of the stick. It doesn’t help the situation but at least we only had 1 left out and not 2 or 3.
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(12-03-2017 05:23 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:03 PM)MTowho Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:00 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like SDSU didn’t want to play CSU and we traded the AF for NM.

We already had the NM tie in. I think we traded AF to guarantee the Frisco slot as well as somehow getting MT into Camellia.

Would love to hear the trading for CUSA/Middle Tennessee to get the MAC’s spot in the Camellia. The MAC had 5 teams in with 7+ wins with 2 more at 6-6...and both those 6 win teams stayed home.

CUSA got 9 of 10
MAC got 5 of 7
Not a bad deal since I believe we had 6 primary and 2 secondary. Would’ve been interesting to see who would’ve taken New Mexico St’s place had they lost yesterday or declined for financial reasons.

It was the AAC being the typical AAC. Temple got word they were headed to Boca to play FAU, decided they in no way in hell wanted to play FAU, and managed to talk ESPN into getting them out.

MAC is always willing to send a team to Florida, so Akron got sent there. Camellia had a really bad matchup originally with Akron and AState, and was very willing to plug in MTSU/AState because both fan bases will be more interested and travel for that.

The real interesting watch was with Arizona. Arizona had NMSU locked in as the Sun Belt team. Utah State was supposed to be the MWC rep, but ESPN asked Zona to trade out Utah State for UTSA. Zona had no desire to trade out for UTSA and said no way. Thus UTSA got left out.
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(12-03-2017 05:50 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:23 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:03 PM)MTowho Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:00 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like SDSU didn’t want to play CSU and we traded the AF for NM.
We already had the NM tie in. I think we traded AF to guarantee the Frisco slot as well as somehow getting MT into Camellia.
Would love to hear the trading for CUSA/Middle Tennessee to get the MAC’s spot in the Camellia. The MAC had 5 teams in with 7+ wins with 2 more at 6-6...and both those 6 win teams stayed home.
CUSA got 9 of 10
MAC got 5 of 7
Not a bad deal since I believe we had 6 primary and 2 secondary. Would’ve been interesting to see who would’ve taken New Mexico St’s place had they lost yesterday or declined for financial reasons.
It was the AAC being the typical AAC. Temple got word they were headed to Boca to play FAU, decided they in no way in hell wanted to play FAU, and managed to talk ESPN into getting them out.
MAC is always willing to send a team to Florida, so Akron got sent there. Camellia had a really bad matchup originally with Akron and AState, and was very willing to plug in MTSU/AState because both fan bases will be more interested and travel for that.
The real interesting watch was with Arizona. Arizona had NMSU locked in as the Sun Belt team. Utah State was supposed to be the MWC rep, but ESPN asked Zona to trade out Utah State for UTSA. Zona had no desire to trade out for UTSA and said no way. Thus UTSA got left out.

But Temple has a marginal bowl qualifying record this year; how did they have that kind of leverage?

In any event, hope we all have another successful Bowl Season.
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(12-03-2017 05:50 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  It was the AAC being the typical AAC. Temple got word they were headed to Boca to play FAU, decided they in no way in hell wanted to play FAU, and managed to talk ESPN into getting them out.

MAC is always willing to send a team to Florida, so Akron got sent there. Camellia had a really bad matchup originally with Akron and AState, and was very willing to plug in MTSU/AState because both fan bases will be more interested and travel for that.

The real interesting watch was with Arizona. Arizona had NMSU locked in as the Sun Belt team. Utah State was supposed to be the MWC rep, but ESPN asked Zona to trade out Utah State for UTSA. Zona had no desire to trade out for UTSA and said no way. Thus UTSA got left out.

If Temple had stayed in Boca, one of the MAC's extra teams would have been sent to St Pete to play FIU, since the only teams remaining to fill slots were extra CUSA and MAC teams, thus keeping MT out. If Memphis hadn't worked its way into the Liberty Bowl, it may not have happened either.
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(12-03-2017 05:29 PM)SApuro Wrote:  Cue the UTSA meltdown. haha.

If I'm UTSA's AD my first call is to UTEP AD to get the hell out of this conference. My next call is to MWC Commissioner. Conference hung us out to dry.

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(12-03-2017 05:07 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 04:59 PM)Goherd73 Wrote:  Marshall vs Colorado State in NM Bowl

(12-03-2017 05:03 PM)MTowho Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:00 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like SDSU didn’t want to play CSU and we traded the AF for NM.

We already had the NM tie in. I think we traded AF to guarantee the Frisco slot as well as somehow getting MT into Camellia.

That makes sense. So UTSA got left at the alter to help MTSU and LT?

We helped ourselves by beating you and showing well at DFW bowls 2 of the past 3 years.
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(12-03-2017 06:19 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:29 PM)SApuro Wrote:  Cue the UTSA meltdown. haha.

If I'm UTSA's AD my first call is to UTEP AD to get the hell out of this conference. My next call is to MWC Commissioner. Conference hung us out to dry.

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(12-03-2017 05:58 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:50 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:23 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:03 PM)MTowho Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 05:00 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like SDSU didn’t want to play CSU and we traded the AF for NM.
We already had the NM tie in. I think we traded AF to guarantee the Frisco slot as well as somehow getting MT into Camellia.
Would love to hear the trading for CUSA/Middle Tennessee to get the MAC’s spot in the Camellia. The MAC had 5 teams in with 7+ wins with 2 more at 6-6...and both those 6 win teams stayed home.
CUSA got 9 of 10
MAC got 5 of 7
Not a bad deal since I believe we had 6 primary and 2 secondary. Would’ve been interesting to see who would’ve taken New Mexico St’s place had they lost yesterday or declined for financial reasons.
It was the AAC being the typical AAC. Temple got word they were headed to Boca to play FAU, decided they in no way in hell wanted to play FAU, and managed to talk ESPN into getting them out.
MAC is always willing to send a team to Florida, so Akron got sent there. Camellia had a really bad matchup originally with Akron and AState, and was very willing to plug in MTSU/AState because both fan bases will be more interested and travel for that.
The real interesting watch was with Arizona. Arizona had NMSU locked in as the Sun Belt team. Utah State was supposed to be the MWC rep, but ESPN asked Zona to trade out Utah State for UTSA. Zona had no desire to trade out for UTSA and said no way. Thus UTSA got left out.

But Temple has a marginal bowl qualifying record this year; how did they have that kind of leverage?

In any event, hope we all have another successful Bowl Season.

Temple had no leverage...AAC had leverage. They used it. It got Memphis into Liberty.

I think you guys may be looking into this a bit too hard. There were 3 teams that had to be left out. MWC and SBC Both filled their allotments with zero extras. AAC didn't have enough. CUSA and MAC both went over. It was always going to be a war to see which league had only one left out and which had two left out.

If the trade with Camelia doesn't happen, there's a decent chance MTSU and UTSA both get left out. Instead, just UTSA got screwed. In the end, a CUSA team was always going to be screwed over.
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