(11-16-2017 03:10 PM)voss749 Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 06:53 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I pretty upset Southern Miss is letting F_U teams win. Y’all should dominate the conference every year. I still feel like Jeff Bower shouldn’t have been fired and Larry Fedora was the beginning of the end.
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Southern miss is in the west, FAU and FIU are in the east.

Don't worry UCF you'll get your chance to play FAU, Sept 22,2018.

Believe me, you do not want to tangle with UCF.

(11-16-2017 03:29 PM)voss749 Wrote:  " Our attendance is down, fan support is down, apathy is high...I think it has a lot to do with our current opponents."

Maybe it's because you've won 1 conference championship in the last 15 years?

Nope. It's our opponents. A lot of the relatively newer fans grew up watching USM play Louisville, TCU, Army, USF, ECU, Memphis, Houston, Tulane, Cincinnati, and UCF.

USM's biggest problems are

1) No market. This does matter; sadly.

2) The rise of schools like Troy, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, Texas State, F/AI/U, UCF, USF, UTSA, Georgia State, MTSU, etc...not that those schools are better but there are way more options for kids today to sign. Diluted the talent pool.

(11-16-2017 12:17 AM)TTT Wrote:  Please take us back lol. Sorry for the pity post but it's the truth. We USM fans desperately miss ECU, Houston, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, etc. Most USM fans won't admit it but it's the truth. Our attendance is down, fan support is down, apathy is high...I think it has a lot to do with our current opponents. I know it shouldn't matter but our fans/big money donors just do not care about any of the teams on our schedule anymore. Its sad and depressing. Again, sorry for the pity post...sometimes it feels good to vent to old friends. I still can't get over the current state of USM athletics. I know we are our own worst enemy. The good news is the dinosaurs (school president, administrators, officials, coaches, and even our long time city mayor) who ALL contributed to the status that USM is currently in have died out...they've retired, resigned, fired/voted out all over the past 7 years. For the first time in 15 years our school is finally becoming somewhat stable. College realignment really happened at THE worst time possible for USM. Football has slowly somewhat recovered from the Ellis Johnson debacle of 2012. The Donnie Tyndall sanctions are officially over. I honestly think that if we are to ever get invited to the AAC, it'll only happen if we have a lot of success and proven investment in basketball (in addition to winning bowl games, conf/div championships in football) but I totally understand why y'all wouldn't want us. Anyways, I know this is a random post but again, I just needed to vent.

On a side note maybe we'll see each other in a bowl game in a month or so. I've seen a few projections showing USM playing Houston, Memphis, and USF though I'm sure y'all would prefer playing someone in a P5 conference (I don't blame y'all). Cheers!

I sent the same note to Louisville, Rutgers, and WV.

(11-16-2017 04:53 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  USM's biggest problems are

2) The rise of schools like Troy, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, Texas State, F/AI/U, UCF, USF, UTSA, Georgia State, MTSU, etc...not that those schools are better but there are way more options for kids today to sign. Diluted the talent pool.

^Precisely

Back in the day (80s & 90s) every kid in MS/LA/AL...if you didn't sign with Alabama, Auburn, or LSU...then you signed with USM. Now you've got a LOT of schools kids can sign with and they get to stay close to mamas house. Also, kids in MS that would normally sign with USM are going to Baylor, WVU, GaTech, ASU, and Vandy thanks to. YouTube and the internet.

University 6 has given everyone the blue print for getting to the next level: hookers, blow, launder shoe money to recruits.

You know what you gotta do Southern Miss.....

denied

ive been banging that drum a long time. keep the faith.

While USM has played Memphis (63), ECU (39), and Tulane (30) a ton, they have played current CUSA members LA Tech (49), UAB (16), North Texas (12), and Marshall (12) the same or way more than all of the other AAC members. Most of the nostalgia is for 3 schools. Schedule each other in OOC. Especially if it helps attendance for all of the schools involved.

(11-16-2017 06:34 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  While USM has played Memphis (63), ECU (39), and Tulane (30) a ton, they have played current CUSA members LA Tech (49), UAB (16), North Texas (12), and Marshall (12) the same or way more than all of the other AAC members. Most of the nostalgia is for 3 schools. Schedule each other in OOC. Especially if it helps attendance for all of the schools involved.

Also played Houston 15 times since 1996. Would def be nice to be in the AAC and play some old rivals. It would be a win/win. It would clearly help USM, but I think it would also help some of the AAC teams - at least with ticket sales and interest.

Otherwise, I wish we would go Indy and schedule some of the AAC teams and other rival schools, including 3-5 "money" games. We are only getting $200k a year from the CUSA TV contract. One game with Auburn pays about $2 million. Think about that.

Nevertheless, it would be great playing Memphis, ECU, Houston, etc., instead of Charlotte, UTSA, North Texas State, etc.

(11-16-2017 11:30 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Small budget, and no market killed USM.

This is why Tulane was added over southern miss or any other potential target.

Tulane brought with them academics, market and a beautiful new football stadium.

(11-16-2017 06:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  ive been banging that drum a long time. keep the faith.

And you going to keep on banging it because no one wants to hear it.

Give it up Southern Miss isn't going to ever get invited to this league.

It is what it is

(11-16-2017 07:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:30 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Small budget, and no market killed USM.

This is why Tulane was added over southern miss or any other potential target.

Tulane brought with them academics, market and a beautiful new football stadium.

Tulane is a valuable member and have shown a recent commitment to athletics.

Tulsa in terms of overall performance cannot be matched in this conference, but they also make the Wichita State add make more sense as a regional rival, too.

There is not one team in this conference that isn't pulling their weight.... well, for the most part. The ECU add, at the time, made sense, and they still do if they can ever get their **** togeher.

But they still have Jimmy Buffett and Fingers Taylor, and that puts USM ahead of half the universities in the US.

This has to be the most pathetic thread I've ever read on this board. Hell, on any fan board! Truly pathetic. A So. Miss fan groveling over the conference that didn't want them. Pathetic.

Id trade Wichita tulsa and tulane for USM. best option would be to just kick both TUs out

(11-16-2017 11:04 PM)Fuzzyhasek2 Wrote:  Id trade Wichita tulsa and tulane for USM. best option would be to just kick both TUs out

It's a good thing you're not the one making these decisions.

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Believe me, you do not want to tangle with UCF.
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This is actually our second game against UCF. Our first was in 2003.

UCF won 33-29.

(11-16-2017 07:34 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 06:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  ive been banging that drum a long time. keep the faith.

And you going to keep on banging it because no one wants to hear it.

Give it up Southern Miss isn't going to ever get invited to this league.

It is what it is

Houstin fans still chapped. Let it go.
Admirable though I gotta admit. That last time they whipped your ass left a mark

(11-16-2017 07:34 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 06:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  ive been banging that drum a long time. keep the faith.

And you going to keep on banging it because no one wants to hear it.

Give it up Southern Miss isn't going to ever get invited to this league.

It is what it is

Wow... Is SM to the AAC the equivalent of Memphis to the SEC?