Fit,

They are illegal immigrants, not the PC term undocumented immigrants.

(02-15-2017 02:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:13 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Chaparral is a small village in between Las Cruces and El Paso. It's a very poor part of town and there is likely a large community of undocumented immigrants.

If in fact ICE is conducting raids there, it is very unlikely that people will feel comfortable calling state police for anything that goes on there from here on out.

We shall see in the coming months if it because a source of increased crime.

I am 100% OK with things getting so bad for illegals that they are afraid to call the police, and quietly deport themselves.

And how will you feel when American citizens who are the children of undocumented immigrants are vulnerable to exploitation in areas where no one calls the cops.

I think we need to change the law, anchor baby = not a citizen. Most of the civilized world does it this way know.

A study in 2010 found that only 30 of the world's 194 countries grant citizenship at birth to the children of undocumented foreign residents, although definitive information was not available from 19 countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

You mean change the Constitution of the United States?

What happened to the so called defenders of the Constitution.


Trump's America

Yep, just like most of Europe and many other countries have done and relatively recently.

(02-15-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I don't see the problem.

Chaparral is a small village in between Las Cruces and El Paso. It's a very poor part of town and there is likely a large community of undocumented immigrants.

If in fact ICE is conducting raids there, it is very unlikely that people will feel comfortable calling state police for anything that goes on there from here on out.

We shall see in the coming months if it because a source of increased crime.

I am 100% OK with things getting so bad for illegals that they are afraid to call the police, and quietly deport themselves.

Canada welcomes refugees

Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

(02-15-2017 03:48 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

(02-15-2017 03:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:48 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

Because I'm not going to learn Spanish for them.

Your ******* trolling is getting old.

(02-15-2017 03:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:48 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

So that they can integrate with society, which will allow them to stand on their own feet and not be reliant upon welfare.

(02-15-2017 03:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:48 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

Because in order to completely assimilate into the United States, you need to be able to speak the language that the vast, overwhelming majority of citizens speak. And we need 100% of our LEGAL citizens to be assimilated to our society and culture.

Yes, yes, I know the US is one of the few countries that doesn't officially have an "official language" but I imagine it would be awfully hard to become a valuable, productive, engaged citizen of this country if you don't know how to speak English.

(02-15-2017 04:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:48 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

Because in order to completely assimilate into the United States, you need to be able to speak the language that the vast, overwhelming majority of citizens speak. And we need 100% of our LEGAL citizens to be assimilated to our society and culture.

Yes, yes, I know the US is one of the few countries that doesn't officially have an "official language" but I imagine it would be awfully hard to become a valuable, productive, engaged citizen of this country if you don't know how to speak English.

Fit is just trolling. It's common freaking sense as to why they should at least try to learn English.

(02-15-2017 04:14 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 04:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:48 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

Because in order to completely assimilate into the United States, you need to be able to speak the language that the vast, overwhelming majority of citizens speak. And we need 100% of our LEGAL citizens to be assimilated to our society and culture.

Yes, yes, I know the US is one of the few countries that doesn't officially have an "official language" but I imagine it would be awfully hard to become a valuable, productive, engaged citizen of this country if you don't know how to speak English.

Fit is just trolling. It's common freaking sense as to why they should at least try to learn English.

Yes, but yesterday Fit got some posters believing what he said about the Dam. We are just ensuring others arent misled by his comments.

(02-15-2017 04:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 04:14 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 04:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:48 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

Because in order to completely assimilate into the United States, you need to be able to speak the language that the vast, overwhelming majority of citizens speak. And we need 100% of our LEGAL citizens to be assimilated to our society and culture.

Yes, yes, I know the US is one of the few countries that doesn't officially have an "official language" but I imagine it would be awfully hard to become a valuable, productive, engaged citizen of this country if you don't know how to speak English.

Fit is just trolling. It's common freaking sense as to why they should at least try to learn English.

Yes, but yesterday Fit got some posters believing what he said about the Dam. We are just ensuring others arent misled by his comments.

What he said about not learning English because this is not England is just stupid. It's like telling someone going to Argentina to not learn Spanish because it isn't Spain. Only thing I can reason is he's just trolling because otherwise it makes no sense.

good!

(02-15-2017 04:26 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 04:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 04:14 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 04:08 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

Because in order to completely assimilate into the United States, you need to be able to speak the language that the vast, overwhelming majority of citizens speak. And we need 100% of our LEGAL citizens to be assimilated to our society and culture.

Yes, yes, I know the US is one of the few countries that doesn't officially have an "official language" but I imagine it would be awfully hard to become a valuable, productive, engaged citizen of this country if you don't know how to speak English.

Fit is just trolling. It's common freaking sense as to why they should at least try to learn English.

Yes, but yesterday Fit got some posters believing what he said about the Dam. We are just ensuring others arent misled by his comments.

What he said about not learning English because this is not England is just stupid. It's like telling someone going to Argentina to not learn Spanish because it isn't Spain. Only thing I can reason is he's just trolling because otherwise it makes no sense.

You guy's keep forgetting his la raza angle.

Having lived in Las Cruces, I can tell you that Chaparral has a crime problem. The U.S. Marshals are very active in the area. Crimes being committed in both TX and NM. Feds are active in putting people away. This is the first time I have seen the ABQ Journal pick up an ICE story like this from Southern NM. ICE has done this before both under Bush and Obama.

The only difference now, Trump is president.

For a small city Las Cruces is crime ridden. I think you'll find more murders there than in big city El Paso. In my opinion illegals are the main cause because a lot of the problems deal with drugs. It jumps into the family dynamic where you will find spouse abuse and child abuse to a grand scale. Every month almost you will find some child being killed. It's a sad situation there. If it also happens in Chapparral it's because it's a small out of the way town where police are seldom seen.

I'm glad the roundups are happening. I hope the innocent people can breathe more easily.

(02-15-2017 02:13 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 02:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I don't see the problem.

Chaparral is a small village in between Las Cruces and El Paso. It's a very poor part of town and there is likely a large community of undocumented immigrants.

If in fact ICE is conducting raids there, it is very unlikely that people will feel comfortable calling state police for anything that goes on there from here on out.

We shall see in the coming months if it because a source of increased crime.

I am 100% OK with things getting so bad for illegals that they are afraid to call the police, and quietly deport themselves.

And how will you feel when American citizens who are the children of undocumented immigrants are vulnerable to exploitation in areas where no one calls the cops.

I think we need to change the law, anchor baby = not a citizen. Most of the civilized world does it this way know.

A study in 2010 found that only 30 of the world's 194 countries grant citizenship at birth to the children of undocumented foreign residents, although definitive information was not available from 19 countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

I agree. Just one in several things that should be stopped to stop incentivizing illegal immigration. Stop giving non citizens benefits that citizens pay for.

(02-15-2017 03:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 03:48 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Awesome! A government entity is actually doing its job.

Also, it's illegal aliens. Please use the correct term.

As for anchor babies and those who were brought here when they weren't old enough to have a choice, I would give them a choice when they reach the legal age of consent as defined by federal law: If you want to stay here, you must swear allegiance to the United States, learn English, and renounce any citizenship you may have from your or your parents' native country. Then and only then will you be allowed to get in line to be naturalized as an American. Otherwise, you can go with your parents back to their homeland.

This isn't racism. It's about enforcing the law of the land. I'm all for people being here from other countries as long as they do it while following our laws. Always have been, too.

Why must they learn English? This isn't England.

Because some of my ancestors, which came from Germany, France, and Holland, had to learn English in order to truly function in American society. And they were willing to learn it because doing so made them feel more American. If it was good enough for them, it's good enough for the illegal aliens who are here in this country. (And if you have a problem with that, too bad.)

Fit likes the border fencing to protect him in El Paso, but then whines are cries like a baby, why?

(02-15-2017 10:12 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Fit likes the border fencing to protect him in El Paso, but then whines are cries like a baby, why?

Oh, he's just trolling. I know he's trolling, too. Still, I wanted to light him up for how he responded to my post.

(02-15-2017 10:17 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 10:12 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Fit likes the border fencing to protect him in El Paso, but then whines are cries like a baby, why?

Oh, he's just trolling. I know he's trolling, too. Still, I wanted to light him up for how he responded to my post.

I think he hates his heritage, unlike the other hispanic posters here.