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future of the Republican party
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...rebuilding
Talks about asking the right questions. And asks 12 good questions. But I think the author misses the point as he is too much of an insider.
The one key takeaway is that DC has focused too much on college educated people who are a minority of the population. They have established policies that favored those people and ignored working people without college degrees. They are merely collateral damage.
The Democrats claim to be for those people, but they have also pushed trade deals and refused to strictly enforce existing ones, while pushing policies that drive up the cost of living, such as their attacks on energy. All that in addition to their regulatory regimes which make it difficult for small business.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 02:36 PM)bullet Wrote: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...rebuilding
Talks about asking the right questions. And asks 12 good questions. But I think the author misses the point as he is too much of an insider.
The one key takeaway is that DC has focused too much on college educated people who are a minority of the population. They have established policies that favored those people and ignored working people without college degrees. They are merely collateral damage.
The Democrats claim to be for those people, but they have also pushed trade deals and refused to strictly enforce existing ones, while pushing policies that drive up the cost of living, such as their attacks on energy. All that in addition to their regulatory regimes which make it difficult for small business.
If someone out there had Trump's ideas, Trump's fight, and Trump's instincts, without the womanizing background, it would be a clear winner. It just might be a winner nonetheless.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 02:40 PM)EverRespect Wrote: (10-27-2016 02:36 PM)bullet Wrote: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...rebuilding
Talks about asking the right questions. And asks 12 good questions. But I think the author misses the point as he is too much of an insider.
The one key takeaway is that DC has focused too much on college educated people who are a minority of the population. They have established policies that favored those people and ignored working people without college degrees. They are merely collateral damage.
The Democrats claim to be for those people, but they have also pushed trade deals and refused to strictly enforce existing ones, while pushing policies that drive up the cost of living, such as their attacks on energy. All that in addition to their regulatory regimes which make it difficult for small business.
If someone out there had Trump's ideas, Trump's fight, and Trump's instincts, without the womanizing background, it would be a clear winner. It just might be a winner nonetheless.
No one has more respect for women than Trump. Don't let the floozies that Trump has never even met that they paying to lie fool you. They would have done the same for any other candidate, it's the only card they have.
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RE: future of the Republican party
Philosophical question: if one has to be college educated to come up with new policies, then how can the creators of new policies create them so as to appeal to the non-college educated?
Seems like a bit of a paradox.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 02:43 PM)Kronke Wrote: (10-27-2016 02:40 PM)EverRespect Wrote: (10-27-2016 02:36 PM)bullet Wrote: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...rebuilding
Talks about asking the right questions. And asks 12 good questions. But I think the author misses the point as he is too much of an insider.
The one key takeaway is that DC has focused too much on college educated people who are a minority of the population. They have established policies that favored those people and ignored working people without college degrees. They are merely collateral damage.
The Democrats claim to be for those people, but they have also pushed trade deals and refused to strictly enforce existing ones, while pushing policies that drive up the cost of living, such as their attacks on energy. All that in addition to their regulatory regimes which make it difficult for small business.
If someone out there had Trump's ideas, Trump's fight, and Trump's instincts, without the womanizing background, it would be a clear winner. It just might be a winner nonetheless.
No one has more respect for women than Trump. Don't let the floozies that Trump has never even met that they paying to lie fool you. They would have done the same for any other candidate, it's the only card they have.
Probably true, but he is or at least was a womanizer, which make some of the claims easier to believe for the mouth breathers that follow NBC and CNN. If it were Kasich it would have been something else. If it were Kasich though, we would not be talking about her crimes and corruption and we'd be going into election day with Hillary having high approval numbers while the two technocrats argued over who had the better government solutions. So yeah, I agree with you.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 02:45 PM)MplsBison Wrote: Philosophical question: if one has to be college educated to come up with new policies, then how can the creators of new policies create them so as to appeal to the non-college educated?
Seems like a bit of a paradox.
You have to understand the issues. Things like NAFTA have contributed to a decimation of our manufacturing base. What has happened is policy makers have decided it is a net positive for the country. And they have pretty much completely ignored the fact that it is not a net positive for everyone. We haven't really done anything for those people. They are just collateral damage.
You aren't disqualified from designing policies to help non-college educated just because you are college educated. But our policy makers are too insulated and haven't really even recognized the problem.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 02:49 PM)EverRespect Wrote: (10-27-2016 02:43 PM)Kronke Wrote: (10-27-2016 02:40 PM)EverRespect Wrote: (10-27-2016 02:36 PM)bullet Wrote: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...rebuilding
Talks about asking the right questions. And asks 12 good questions. But I think the author misses the point as he is too much of an insider.
The one key takeaway is that DC has focused too much on college educated people who are a minority of the population. They have established policies that favored those people and ignored working people without college degrees. They are merely collateral damage.
The Democrats claim to be for those people, but they have also pushed trade deals and refused to strictly enforce existing ones, while pushing policies that drive up the cost of living, such as their attacks on energy. All that in addition to their regulatory regimes which make it difficult for small business.
If someone out there had Trump's ideas, Trump's fight, and Trump's instincts, without the womanizing background, it would be a clear winner. It just might be a winner nonetheless.
No one has more respect for women than Trump. Don't let the floozies that Trump has never even met that they paying to lie fool you. They would have done the same for any other candidate, it's the only card they have.
Probably true, but he is or at least was a womanizer, which make some of the claims easier to believe for the mouth breathers that follow NBC and CNN. If it were Kasich it would have been something else. If it were Kasich though, we would not be talking about her crimes and corruption and we'd be going into election day with Hillary having high approval numbers while the two technocrats argued over who had the better government solutions. So yeah, I agree with you.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that most of those women claiming things about Trump were paid by the HRC campaign to make those claims. WikiLeaks show them doing similar things like the false ad for employment for one of Trump's business that was demeaning to women and their attempts to create violence at Trump rallies.
But it would certainly not be a surprise if a couple of them were actually telling the truth.
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RE: future of the Republican party
How long have Republicans talked about Fair Tax, Flat Tax, Simple Tax, abolishing IRS?
40 years and NOTHING.
How long have Republicans talked about balanced budget, smaller government, reduced spending?
40 years and NOTHING.
How many times have they started something and then caved when it got warm?
Hundreds...read my lips I'll shut the government down!
The Republican Party is useless. It has only survived as the least ambitious thief out of two.
If it hasn't learned then it needs to be kicked in the head next time too and as many times as necessary until it dies or becomes a real boy.
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RE: future of the Republican party
bullet,
The point of saying "net positive" is that you know it was good for some and bad for others. There is no such thing as "it wasn't net positive for me!"
If they thought more people would suffer from the trade agreement than the number of people who gained from it, it wouldn't have been enacted.
But, I will certainly concede that building an election strategy around the idea of appealing to the "less educated masses" is valid, given that they still get the same vote.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:05 PM)ark30inf Wrote: How long have Republicans talked about Fair Tax, Flat Tax, Simple Tax, abolishing IRS?
40 years and NOTHING.
How long have Republicans talked about balanced budget, smaller government, reduced spending?
40 years and NOTHING.
How many times have they started something and then caved when it got warm?
Hundreds...read my lips I'll shut the government down!
The Republican Party is useless. It has only survived as the least ambitious thief out of two.
If it hasn't learned then it needs to be kicked in the head next time too and as many times as necessary until it dies or becomes a real boy.
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Amen brother.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:18 PM)MplsBison Wrote: bullet,
The point of saying "net positive" is that you know it was good for some and bad for others. There is no such thing as "it wasn't net positive for me!"
If they thought more people would suffer from the trade agreement than the number of people who gained from it, it wouldn't have been enacted.
But, I will certainly concede that building an election strategy around the idea of appealing to the "less educated masses" is valid, given that they still get the same vote.
If you listen to the elites talk, they never talk policies that would be of benefit to the 70% of the country that aren't college educated.
The goal HAS to be something that will help those folks be able to be part of the middle class - not just the lower class that sucks off the government teat.
The answer is more jobs here in the USA that make things that employ folks at a wage that is middle class. Service jobs in retail/food service won't/don't cut it. Until our policies make it attractive for businesses to set up shop here or stay here, the non-college 70% will continue to flounder...........
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RE: future of the Republican party
I hope it dies...
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:18 PM)MplsBison Wrote: If they thought more people would suffer from the trade agreement than the number of people who gained from it, it wouldn't have been enacted.
I strongly challenge that assumption for anything the government does.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:36 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: I hope it dies...
Well, lets be honest - the Democratic party is just as corrupt and inept. At this point, they just do a better job of cheating and smearing......AND, they have the media covering for them......
I'm convinced that the US would be much better off if that whole cesspool of D.C. were wiped off the map.....
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:40 PM)Crebman Wrote: (10-27-2016 03:36 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: I hope it dies...
Well, lets be honest - the Democratic party is just as corrupt and inept. At this point, they just do a better job of cheating and smearing......AND, they have the media covering for them......
I'm convinced that the US would be much better off if that whole cesspool of D.C. were wiped off the map.....
I don't disagree.
The question was about the Republican party. I hope it dies. That isn't to say I hope the Democratic one doesn't.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:42 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: (10-27-2016 03:40 PM)Crebman Wrote: (10-27-2016 03:36 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: I hope it dies...
Well, lets be honest - the Democratic party is just as corrupt and inept. At this point, they just do a better job of cheating and smearing......AND, they have the media covering for them......
I'm convinced that the US would be much better off if that whole cesspool of D.C. were wiped off the map.....
I don't disagree.
The question was about the Republican party. I hope it dies. That isn't to say I hope the Democratic one doesn't.
Agree. Wish those lobbyists would die with them......that is where the money trades hands for favors.......
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:05 PM)ark30inf Wrote: How long have Republicans talked about Fair Tax, Flat Tax, Simple Tax, abolishing IRS?
40 years and NOTHING.
How long have Republicans talked about balanced budget, smaller government, reduced spending?
40 years and NOTHING.
How many times have they started something and then caved when it got warm?
Hundreds...read my lips I'll shut the government down!
The Republican Party is useless. It has only survived as the least ambitious thief out of two.
If it hasn't learned then it needs to be kicked in the head next time too and as many times as necessary until it dies or becomes a real boy.
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Give them 60 votes in the Senate and 60% of the House like the dems had and THEN you can blame them. Until then, they STILL need to convince 'the other side' to join them... and in those 40 years, Dems haven't ONCE talked about flat tax/fair tax except to mischaracterize it.
I'm serious.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:47 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: (10-27-2016 03:05 PM)ark30inf Wrote: How long have Republicans talked about Fair Tax, Flat Tax, Simple Tax, abolishing IRS?
40 years and NOTHING.
How long have Republicans talked about balanced budget, smaller government, reduced spending?
40 years and NOTHING.
How many times have they started something and then caved when it got warm?
Hundreds...read my lips I'll shut the government down!
The Republican Party is useless. It has only survived as the least ambitious thief out of two.
If it hasn't learned then it needs to be kicked in the head next time too and as many times as necessary until it dies or becomes a real boy.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk
Give them 60 votes in the Senate and 60% of the House like the dems had and THEN you can blame them. Until then, they STILL need to convince 'the other side' to join them... and in those 40 years, Dems haven't ONCE talked about flat tax/fair tax except to mischaracterize it.
I'm serious.
They had exclusive control during Reagan and Bush II. We got Medicare Part D and a lot of spending.
Not impressed.
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 03:56 PM)ark30inf Wrote: They had exclusive control during Reagan and Bush II. We got Medicare Part D and a lot of spending.
Not impressed.
Not the same thing. The minority can 'play games' to stop things from passing if you don't have enough votes to shut them down.
I just find it odd that one party talks about doing something and doesn't do it... and the other talks about stopping them from doing it, and you're more upset with the party that AT LEAST is talking about it than you are with the one who not only ignores it, but actively fights against it??
Can you name one D of any stature at all who has publicly supported a flat tax/fair tax? Just one!
Every one I've seen has called it 'robbing the poor and giving to the rich'... and won elections by doing that
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RE: future of the Republican party
(10-27-2016 02:43 PM)Kronke Wrote: (10-27-2016 02:40 PM)EverRespect Wrote: (10-27-2016 02:36 PM)bullet Wrote: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...rebuilding
Talks about asking the right questions. And asks 12 good questions. But I think the author misses the point as he is too much of an insider.
The one key takeaway is that DC has focused too much on college educated people who are a minority of the population. They have established policies that favored those people and ignored working people without college degrees. They are merely collateral damage.
The Democrats claim to be for those people, but they have also pushed trade deals and refused to strictly enforce existing ones, while pushing policies that drive up the cost of living, such as their attacks on energy. All that in addition to their regulatory regimes which make it difficult for small business.
If someone out there had Trump's ideas, Trump's fight, and Trump's instincts, without the womanizing background, it would be a clear winner. It just might be a winner nonetheless.
No one has more respect for women than Trump. Don't let the floozies that Trump has never even met that they paying to lie fool you. They would have done the same for any other candidate, it's the only card they have.
"I moved on her like a *****. But I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look."
"Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."
"Grab ’em by the *****. You can do anything."
Sounds like respect for women...
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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