Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

(04-06-2016 12:16 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 10:02 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 09:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 08:48 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  No big deal. Lyin' Ted does well in the the central and mountain time zones, not so much on the east coast except for Maine but that's like Canada.

Donald the Deceiver did better before so many dropped out.

We're headed to the Big Apple and the northeast where Trump will roll.

False, Trump's time is finally over. All the hate and violence he has spread finally caught up with him. Tonight was a prime example that people are fed up with his racism. He will not win another primary, it is over for Trump. Meanwhile Bernie is surging like a phoenix rising through the ashes of hatred and bigotry. He will defeat and Hillary then take the White House and save our country from tyranny and racism.

Finally, A Lib that admitted to the last 7 years of a Racist President !!!!!!! +3

(04-06-2016 06:30 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Final results show about 100K more Republican voters yesterday than Democratic. That's a significant change from 2008, but it's not an earth-changer. Obviously, people felt compelled to vote on the Republican side yesterday but that might have been a #NeverTrump movement more than anything. I'm not convinced the people who voted for Cruz yesterday will be so compelled to do so in November (Sanders did get 36K more votes than Cruz).

The two big takeaways is Trump is now facing must win states like NY and PA in the next few weeks (I'll assume he'll lose Colorado). Kasich too has to finish a decent 2nd in some of those states or he'll be under intense pressure to drop out. Trump's lack of organization and political savvy is killing him, and that doesn't bode well in Cleveland. But he has a chance to stop the bleeding if Cruz finishes third in some of the NE states.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the media start to focus (negatively of course) on Cruz a bit. I don't think he's the front-runner as some has said in the media, but if he gets within striking distance in NY, NJ and PA of Trump, then he is the front-runner.

On the Democratic side, Clinton faces a must-win state in NY. If she can't win there, how can she claim to be front-runner? At that point, there will be intense pressure for the Superdelegates to be undecided or switch to Sanders. I actually think we'll see some Sanders dirt leaked by the Clinton camp before New York. She's ready to play dirty against him now.

Something She has done Her whole career !

Hillary is at a dilemma.

Lurch to the left and loudly sing the praises of statism to match Sanders, and she'll look like an even bigger phony and game-player.

Lurch to the center and slam Sanders' most loony leftist diatribes, and she'll be painted as a Republican in disguise and grow the comrade's base even more.

Sanders is very lucky the Democratic side wasn't the crowded GOP bakers' dozen. O'Malley aside, Sanders was the only alternative to Hillary - easy to get media time. If there were several more candidates on that stage, and if Biden had decided to enter, Sanders would've been little more than a footnote. Maybe close to Ron Paul type numbers, but not the serious POTUS contender he's become.

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich has never lost a race. 13-0. His mind can't handle defeat. Just take away his money and he'll quit.

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich isn't quitting because he knows he has the best chance of getting the nomination if there is a contested convention. As long as both Trump and Cruz split delegates, neither may have enough for a first ballot win. And Trump and Cruz MUST win on the first ballot or else they are out.

(04-06-2016 07:59 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich isn't quitting because he knows he has the best chance of getting the nomination if there is a contested convention. As long as both Trump and Cruz split delegates, neither may have enough for a first ballot win. And Trump and Cruz MUST win on the first ballot or else they are out.

And what few delegates Kasich can pick up here or there just makes it that much harder for Cruz or Trump to get to the magic number.

At least the disaster that is Trump isn't looking so inevitable.

(04-06-2016 07:29 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Hillary is at a dilemma.

Lurch to the left and loudly sing the praises of statism to match Sanders, and she'll look like an even bigger phony and game-player.

Lurch to the center and slam Sanders' most loony leftist diatribes, and she'll be painted as a Republican in disguise and grow the comrade's base even more.

Sanders is very lucky the Democratic side wasn't the crowded GOP bakers' dozen. O'Malley aside, Sanders was the only alternative to Hillary - easy to get media time. If there were several more candidates on that stage, and if Biden had decided to enter, Sanders would've been little more than a footnote. Maybe close to Ron Paul type numbers, but not the serious POTUS contender he's become.

Interesting take, but I disagree. Whether you agree with his ideas or not, Sanders is real, he has a long record of fighting for causes he believes in and he cares about the working class -- of which I count myself a member. All that resonates. I think he would be 'little more than a footnote' in this race no matter who entered Democratic primary. Sanders is a statesman. Clinton and Biden (and Cruz and Kasich, for that matter) are politicians. They're the establishment. They're phony.

I'd say the only genuine candidates in this race are Sanders and Trump.

No commie is a statesman.

Kasich is holding out for the contested convention which is looking like a reality now. Trump wont get the necessary delegates to win it outright.

(04-06-2016 07:59 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich isn't quitting because he knows he has the best chance of getting the nomination if there is a contested convention. As long as both Trump and Cruz split delegates, neither may have enough for a first ballot win. And Trump and Cruz MUST win on the first ballot or else they are out.

If it comes down to Kasich then you might as well nominate Romney, Bush or Ryan, they have almost as many delegates and only won one less state.

(04-06-2016 09:26 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 07:59 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich isn't quitting because he knows he has the best chance of getting the nomination if there is a contested convention. As long as both Trump and Cruz split delegates, neither may have enough for a first ballot win. And Trump and Cruz MUST win on the first ballot or else they are out.

If it comes down to Kasich then you might as well nominate Romney, Bush or Ryan, they have almost as many delegates and only won one less state.

I didn't say that Kasich is the likely candidate to arise from a contested convention. I said it is his "best chance" and as a result, he isn't going to drop out. At this point, I'd say a contested convention would be 1 chance in 5 and if it happens, then I'd suspect that Ryan would have the best chance.

(04-06-2016 07:59 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich isn't quitting because he knows he has the best chance of getting the nomination if there is a contested convention. As long as both Trump and Cruz split delegates, neither may have enough for a first ballot win. And Trump and Cruz MUST win on the first ballot or else they are out.

Huh? Kasich has no delegate game. Cruz is raking in all the unbound delegates and infiltrating Trump bound delegates with his own people. Kasich isn't doing any of that. Where exactly does your theory come from? The only way Kasich wins is in a smoky backroom deal where the rules are changed and the delegates get tossed out. That would cause a revolt.

(04-06-2016 09:42 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 07:59 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich isn't quitting because he knows he has the best chance of getting the nomination if there is a contested convention. As long as both Trump and Cruz split delegates, neither may have enough for a first ballot win. And Trump and Cruz MUST win on the first ballot or else they are out.

Huh? Kasich has no delegate game. Cruz is raking in all the unbound delegates and infiltrating Trump bound delegates with his own people. Kasich isn't doing any of that. Where exactly does your theory come from? The only way Kasich wins is in a smoky backroom deal where the rules are changed and the delegates get tossed out. That would cause a revolt.

If neither Trump nor Cruz has a first ballot win (and if Cruz bleeds off some of Trump's delegates that could happen) then neither will get the nomination.

After the first ballot, the delegates can vote for whoever they believe has the best chance to win. And that may be Kasich.

I look forward to your "revolt."

(04-06-2016 09:46 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:42 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 07:59 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich isn't quitting because he knows he has the best chance of getting the nomination if there is a contested convention. As long as both Trump and Cruz split delegates, neither may have enough for a first ballot win. And Trump and Cruz MUST win on the first ballot or else they are out.

Huh? Kasich has no delegate game. Cruz is raking in all the unbound delegates and infiltrating Trump bound delegates with his own people. Kasich isn't doing any of that. Where exactly does your theory come from? The only way Kasich wins is in a smoky backroom deal where the rules are changed and the delegates get tossed out. That would cause a revolt.

If neither Trump nor Cruz has a first ballot win (and if Cruz bleeds off some of Trump's delegates that could happen) then neither will get the nomination.

After the first ballot, the delegates can vote for whoever they believe has the best chance to win. And that may be Kasich.

I look forward to your "revolt."

Say goodbye to the house and senate.

(04-06-2016 09:46 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:42 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 07:59 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 06:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Kasich needs to drop out now. No way any shape or form could He be the Party nominee. Go back and finish Your real job as Gov. of Ohio.

Kasich isn't quitting because he knows he has the best chance of getting the nomination if there is a contested convention. As long as both Trump and Cruz split delegates, neither may have enough for a first ballot win. And Trump and Cruz MUST win on the first ballot or else they are out.

Huh? Kasich has no delegate game. Cruz is raking in all the unbound delegates and infiltrating Trump bound delegates with his own people. Kasich isn't doing any of that. Where exactly does your theory come from? The only way Kasich wins is in a smoky backroom deal where the rules are changed and the delegates get tossed out. That would cause a revolt.

If neither Trump nor Cruz has a first ballot win (and if Cruz bleeds off some of Trump's delegates that could happen) then neither will get the nomination.

After the first ballot, the delegates can vote for whoever they believe has the best chance to win. And that may be Kasich.

I look forward to your "revolt."

The first choice was and likely still is Bush from the establishment delegates.

Kasich is currently running 4th in a 3 man race.

(04-06-2016 08:24 AM)dbacard Wrote:  Kasich is holding out for the contested convention which is looking like a reality now. Trump wont get the necessary delegates to win it outright.

If Trump doesn't win outright, Cruz gets the nomination. He has already put in place enough delegates in as many states as possible.

The whispers now in the GOP is a campaign slogan that is "Lose with Cruz" .


Which is to say that running Cruz and losing the election would minimize the damage and retain the Congress.

Otherwise, the GOP loses the POTUS and the Congress.

(04-06-2016 10:11 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 08:24 AM)dbacard Wrote:  Kasich is holding out for the contested convention which is looking like a reality now. Trump wont get the necessary delegates to win it outright.

If Trump doesn't win outright, Cruz gets the nomination. He has already put in place enough delegates in as many states as possible.

The whispers now in the GOP is a campaign slogan that is "Lose with Cruz" .


Which is to say that running Cruz and losing the election would minimize the damage and retain the Congress.

Otherwise, the GOP loses the POTUS and the Congress.

Funny slogan, considering Cruz is beating Hillary in most of the polls head to head. The establishment loses with Cruz. Maybe thats what they mean.