(11-11-2015 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You have to forgive him. They've been beat down by the constant drone of the religious right in this country to believe that they're being prosecuted for their belief system...so naturally he feels that you're attacking everything he says because of his religion.

Your own attempts to troll here speak for themselves.

The only thing we know about the Pyramids is that we don't know a lot about the Pyramids. Especially, how they were built and why they were built.
We also don't know for sure who built all of them, specifically or when they were all built. Remember when everyone was POSITIVE they were. Hilt by slave labor?
Hell, they just found another one further South dating before the GP.
The point being, any theory has about as much validity as an other and you can find sources that can back up just about any of them

(11-11-2015 03:15 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You have to forgive him. They've been beat down by the constant drone of the religious right in this country to believe that they're being prosecuted for their belief system...so naturally he feels that you're attacking everything he says because of his religion.

Your own attempts to troll here speak for themselves.

If I didn't firmly believe that, I would not have said it. It was no troll. I see it every week in my own church and it bothers me. Nobody is taking God or Christ away from us here in America...if you're letting them, you need to look in the mirror. That's just my take on it.

I just don't feel like you have to continually tell people they are being downtrodden as it keeps them feeling oppressed. We should be celebrating the awesome life we have in and because of what Jesus did for us!

Sorry if you disagree.

The one thing we know is we have no idea how the pyramids were built. And it is more than just how they got the stones there and up. For instance.... The chambers... they had to get light and oxygen in there.

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(11-11-2015 04:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  The one thing we know is we have no idea how the pyramids were built. And it is more than just how they got the stones there and up. For instance.... The chambers... they had to get light and oxygen in there.

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There is an archaeologist that worked in Alabama-burmignham who used some high tech orbital scans to penetrate the sand and detect what looks like hundreds of unopened tombs, fully furbished still. Not even plundered in ancient times. Plus multiple pyramids still buried under the sand ranging all over upper and lower Egypt.

Digging things like that up and finding new evidence is our only hope of proving things at this point imo.

(11-11-2015 04:34 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 04:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  The one thing we know is we have no idea how the pyramids were built. And it is more than just how they got the stones there and up. For instance.... The chambers... they had to get light and oxygen in there.

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There is an archaeologist that works in Alabama-burmignham who used some high tech orbital scans to detect what looks like hindered of unopened tombs, fully furbished still. Not even plundered in ancient times. Plus multiple pyramids still buried under the sand ranging all over upper and lower Egypt.

Digging things like that up and finding new evidence is our only hope of proving things at this point imo.

It is clear to me they had electricity. Look up the Baghdad Battery. These workers had lights. They may have had motorized construction equipment.

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(11-11-2015 04:37 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 04:34 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 04:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  The one thing we know is we have no idea how the pyramids were built. And it is more than just how they got the stones there and up. For instance.... The chambers... they had to get light and oxygen in there.

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There is an archaeologist that works in Alabama-burmignham who used some high tech orbital scans to detect what looks like hindered of unopened tombs, fully furbished still. Not even plundered in ancient times. Plus multiple pyramids still buried under the sand ranging all over upper and lower Egypt.

Digging things like that up and finding new evidence is our only hope of proving things at this point imo.

It is clear to me they had electricity. Look up the Baghdad Battery. These workers had lights. They may have had motorized construction equipment.

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I agree, it looks like they and a few others did have some sort of small light and power source.

This thread has devolved into nonsense on stilts. I'll be seeing myself out now....

Personally, I believe it was either aliens or good old fashion slaves

(11-11-2015 11:07 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:03 AM)miko33 Wrote:  You originally implied it earlier and then appeared to back off that claim in favor of a mysterious advanced civilization lost to time.

I never implied it was God at all, you simply wanted me to so badly that you read that into it. (Illustrating post #119 again)

I said scientists tell us Egyptians did it, with no outside help. I don't believe the Egyptians even built it.

I believe its likely another civilization built it, but I don't know.

I have serious doubts the Egyptians had the knowledge to build that thing.

lol, wut?

(11-11-2015 11:44 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:39 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:15 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There must be a million things built into the structure that Egyptians from 4500 years ago could not possible have known.

Except that Egyptoligists, scientists, historians, archaeologists, laymen, and even ancient Egyptians themselves who wrote that they built the pyramids, that the pyramids were built by Egyptians, and it has been pretty conclusively proven that the technology required to build massive stone complexes, while advanced, is not out of the ordinary.

You're swimming uphill with your theories that Egyptians just "could not possible have known." Man landed on the moon with less technology than what's in a high schooler's graphing calculator. Galileo used nothing but observational astronomy and a telescope to plot the phases of Venus. Archimedes plotted Pi with a quill pen and lambskin.

Science can provide millions of examples of things that people "could not possible have known." Why are stone blocks heaved into a pyramid so outrageous?

stop confusing bibbles with factual babble.....some bibbles will always be bibbles...

(11-11-2015 10:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:44 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:39 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:15 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There must be a million things built into the structure that Egyptians from 4500 years ago could not possible have known.

Except that Egyptoligists, scientists, historians, archaeologists, laymen, and even ancient Egyptians themselves who wrote that they built the pyramids, that the pyramids were built by Egyptians, and it has been pretty conclusively proven that the technology required to build massive stone complexes, while advanced, is not out of the ordinary.

You're swimming uphill with your theories that Egyptians just "could not possible have known." Man landed on the moon with less technology than what's in a high schooler's graphing calculator. Galileo used nothing but observational astronomy and a telescope to plot the phases of Venus. Archimedes plotted Pi with a quill pen and lambskin.

Science can provide millions of examples of things that people "could not possible have known." Why are stone blocks heaved into a pyramid so outrageous?

stop confusing bibbles with factual babble.....some bibbles will always be bibbles...

I always loved yogi!

+ to ya bubby

(11-11-2015 05:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Personally, I believe it was either aliens or good old fashion slaves

Pretty much the later and lots of them.

(11-12-2015 06:45 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 05:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Personally, I believe it was either aliens or good old fashion slaves

Pretty much the later and lots of them.

IN the words of Lee Corso 'Not so fast my friend..."

http://news.discovery.com/history/ancien...-egypt.htm

(11-11-2015 05:28 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  This thread has devolved into nonsense on stilts. I'll be seeing myself out now....

Do you dispute anything? What are your explanations? These are unanswered questions, not anti-history moonbattery. How did they they get light deep into those chambers without the oxygen to sustain a flame?

(11-12-2015 06:45 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 05:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Personally, I believe it was either aliens or good old fashion slaves

Pretty much the later and lots of them.

I wonder how many were needed and how the pharoh was able to afford to feed and expend those resources on something economically unproductive. "Slaves" is a possible outcome, but a very simplistic answer to a complex problem. These structures went up very quickly. Would have needed many thousands of slaves and we aren't talking about a population of the modern US. Without advanced technology, they must have had half the population working on these.

Gentlemen,

There was a guy in Michigan who shows how they moved these boulders and obselinks in his back yard. One guy could move a 10 ton block of stone or something along those lines. I bet you can find him on youtube. I think it was a History channel thing.

(11-12-2015 08:40 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Gentlemen,

There was a guy in Michigan who shows how they moved these boulders and obselinks in his back yard. One guy could move a 10 ton block of stone or something along those lines. I bet you can find him on youtube. I think it was a History channel thing.

I think you mean this guy
http://www.rense.com/general39/coral.htm
Yet no one has been able to duplicate his work. There would be a pant load of money if someone could.

(11-12-2015 08:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 05:28 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  This thread has devolved into nonsense on stilts. I'll be seeing myself out now....

Do you dispute anything? What are your explanations? These are unanswered questions, not anti-history moonbattery. How did they they get light deep into those chambers without the oxygen to sustain a flame?

(I am a sucker for punishment.)

I already spent what feels like two wasted paragraphs responding to the problems of majik piramids earlier in this thread and I'm not gonna spend the next hour of my morning chasing your wild gooses for you.

But I will leave you with this visual. Read #2 They build the pyramids from the bottom up, meaning they carved the cambers in the full Egytian sunlight.



For any finishing touches inside an enclosed pyramid, they probably used for what ever passed for torches back in the day.

Air currents, if needed, could easily be handled with via bellows and even by setting up a fire at the end of a passage (outdoors) to draw air in through the passages.

Honestly, the possibilities are endless for any of your questions.

(11-12-2015 09:13 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 08:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 05:28 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  This thread has devolved into nonsense on stilts. I'll be seeing myself out now....

Do you dispute anything? What are your explanations? These are unanswered questions, not anti-history moonbattery. How did they they get light deep into those chambers without the oxygen to sustain a flame?

(I am a sucker for punishment.)

I already spent what feels like two wasted paragraphs responding to the problems of majik piramids earlier in this thread and I'm not gonna spend the next hour of my morning chasing your wild gooses for you.

But I will leave you with this visual. Read #2 They build the pyramids from the bottom up, meaning they carved the cambers in the full Egytian sunlight.



For any finishing touches inside an enclosed pyramid, they probably used for what ever passed for torches back in the day.

Air currents, if needed, could easily be handled with via bellows and even by setting up a fire at the end of a passage (outdoors) to draw air in through the passages.

Honestly, the possibilities are endless for any of your questions.

If you don't want to discuss this, fine, I understand. I find the discussion fascinating and would be happy spending my free time today discussing. If we knew everything, "Egyptology" wouldn't be a thing and there wouldn't be new theories constantly being introduced. I, for one, think the history establishment has Egypt mostly correct, but I think the technology the Egyptians had at their disposal was a lot higher than they are willing to admit. The population of Old Kingdom Egypt is said to have been about 1 Million. Think of a structure like that being built in Austin, Texas by only the people of Austin. Then think about doing it with nothing but blood and sweat. Then think about doing it in 4 years. All other commerce would have to effectively cease. Think about feeding and housing everyone. My city can't even complete a 3 mile road in 4 years with all the machinery it needs. These ancient wonders go far beyond just the engineering. I want to know how it was done. I certainly didn't want to imply that I expect you to have all the answers. Nobody does.