(11-11-2015 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 02:25 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The base of the great pyramid is not strait, it is curved, and its curved to the precise curvature of THE EARTH. It also has the distance between the earth and the sun built into it, and about a million other totally impossible things.

Scientists expect us to believe men 4500 years ago with copper chisels and a stone rock for a hammer knew the curvature of the Earth, the Distance from the sun, and the exact speed of light, ect.

With no outside help, ie no aliens, no help from God.

I'm not buying it

wow.....it's a simple measurable based on geometry....I don't think the bibble defined geometry....what's cool, is the simpletons figured it out....

god and aliens showed 'em how....that's it....

kooks.....you guys are funny....

I just heard the red state trumpets blare....oh, never mind....it was a train.....

So you know how the Pyramids were built? No matter one else does.

(11-11-2015 09:58 AM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 02:25 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The base of the great pyramid is not strait, it is curved, and its curved to the precise curvature of THE EARTH. It also has the distance between the earth and the sun built into it, and about a million other totally impossible things.

Scientists expect us to believe men 4500 years ago with copper chisels and a stone rock for a hammer knew the curvature of the Earth, the Distance from the sun, and the exact speed of light, ect.

With no outside help, ie no aliens, no help from God.

I'm not buying it

wow.....it's a simple measurable based on geometry....I don't think the bibble defined geometry....what's cool, is the simpletons figured it out....

god and aliens showed 'em how....that's it....

kooks.....you guys are funny....

I just heard the red state trumpets blare....oh, never mind....it was a train.....

So you know how the Pyramids were built? No matter one else does.

why does it fk'n matter if I know the exact construction techniques?

that's for you fellers to worry about....

regardless of the the how, it's how math defined the ability to allow it....

but wtfe.....keep on pining about silly stuff....

I can do it all day it you wish....

(11-11-2015 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 02:25 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The base of the great pyramid is not strait, it is curved, and its curved to the precise curvature of THE EARTH. It also has the distance between the earth and the sun built into it, and about a million other totally impossible things.

Scientists expect us to believe men 4500 years ago with copper chisels and a stone rock for a hammer knew the curvature of the Earth, the Distance from the sun, and the exact speed of light, ect.

With no outside help, ie no aliens, no help from God.

I'm not buying it

wow.....it's a simple measurable based on geometry....I don't think the bibble defined geometry....what's cool, is the simpletons figured it out....

god and aliens showed 'em how....that's it....

kooks.....you guys are funny....

I just heard the red state trumpets blare....oh, never mind....it was a train.....

You are such a paranoid dope head.

Lay off the pot for a while.

What I said has nothing in the world to do with the bible or anyone's religion. The fact is these things were not possible for Egyptians 4500 years ago. They did NOT know the speed of light, the curvature of the earth or the distance form the sun, or a million other things built into that one structure.

Someone else built the pyramids. Probably a previous culture with a LOT more technology that has been wiped out.

.

(11-11-2015 10:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 02:25 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The base of the great pyramid is not strait, it is curved, and its curved to the precise curvature of THE EARTH. It also has the distance between the earth and the sun built into it, and about a million other totally impossible things.

Scientists expect us to believe men 4500 years ago with copper chisels and a stone rock for a hammer knew the curvature of the Earth, the Distance from the sun, and the exact speed of light, ect.

With no outside help, ie no aliens, no help from God.

I'm not buying it

wow.....it's a simple measurable based on geometry....I don't think the bibble defined geometry....what's cool, is the simpletons figured it out....

god and aliens showed 'em how....that's it....

kooks.....you guys are funny....

I just heard the red state trumpets blare....oh, never mind....it was a train.....

What I said has nothing in the world to do with the bible or anyone's religion.

You are such a paranoid dope head.

Lay off the pot for a while.

lol....that's the best you have now....more name calling? defines a true christian based on my experiences....we live in the same shitehole...

I'm fairly certain you implied 'they couldn't have done it w/o some form of divine intervention'......did I miss something?

your move pal....

(11-11-2015 10:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 02:25 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The base of the great pyramid is not strait, it is curved, and its curved to the precise curvature of THE EARTH. It also has the distance between the earth and the sun built into it, and about a million other totally impossible things.

Scientists expect us to believe men 4500 years ago with copper chisels and a stone rock for a hammer knew the curvature of the Earth, the Distance from the sun, and the exact speed of light, ect.

With no outside help, ie no aliens, no help from God.

I'm not buying it

wow.....it's a simple measurable based on geometry....I don't think the bibble defined geometry....what's cool, is the simpletons figured it out....

god and aliens showed 'em how....that's it....

kooks.....you guys are funny....

I just heard the red state trumpets blare....oh, never mind....it was a train.....

You are such a paranoid dope head.

Lay off the pot for a while.

What I said has nothing in the world to do with the bible or anyone's religion. The fact is these things were not possible for Egyptians 4500 years ago. They did NOT know the speed of light, the curvature of the earth or the distance form the sun, or a million other things built into that one structure.

Someone else built the pyramids. Probably a previous culture with a LOT more technology that has been wiped out.

.

No. I wonder if you can see the irony in this post. Not sure if you directly, but some people here will criticize modern scholars who find evidence that the things recorded by the ancients looks errant. People will accuse modern people of assuming the ancients were stupid can didn't know up from down. But when engineering marvels from the ancient world show an impressive amount of skill when being built, the same people who will support ancient writings tooth and nail will also look for a way to interject extraordinary means - or even supernatural means - into the equation.

Clearly there is an agenda there. Interestingly though, you have backed off from your claims of the supernatural or extraterrestrial vs last night and the original post I'm responding to here. But now it appears quite "Atlantean".

(11-11-2015 10:19 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 02:25 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The base of the great pyramid is not strait, it is curved, and its curved to the precise curvature of THE EARTH. It also has the distance between the earth and the sun built into it, and about a million other totally impossible things.

Scientists expect us to believe men 4500 years ago with copper chisels and a stone rock for a hammer knew the curvature of the Earth, the Distance from the sun, and the exact speed of light, ect.

With no outside help, ie no aliens, no help from God.

I'm not buying it

wow.....it's a simple measurable based on geometry....I don't think the bibble defined geometry....what's cool, is the simpletons figured it out....

god and aliens showed 'em how....that's it....

kooks.....you guys are funny....

I just heard the red state trumpets blare....oh, never mind....it was a train.....

You are such a paranoid dope head.

Lay off the pot for a while.

What I said has nothing in the world to do with the bible or anyone's religion. The fact is these things were not possible for Egyptians 4500 years ago. They did NOT know the speed of light, the curvature of the earth or the distance form the sun, or a million other things built into that one structure.

Someone else built the pyramids. Probably a previous culture with a LOT more technology that has been wiped out.

.

No. I wonder if you can see the irony in this post. Not sure if you directly, but some people here will criticize modern scholars who find evidence that the things recorded by the ancients looks errant. People will accuse modern people of assuming the ancients were stupid can didn't know up from down. But when engineering marvels from the ancient world show an impressive amount of skill when being built, the same people who will support ancient writings tooth and nail will also look for a way to interject extraordinary means - or even supernatural means - into the equation.

Clearly there is an agenda there. Interestingly though, you have backed off from your claims of the supernatural or extraterrestrial vs last night and the original post I'm responding to here. But now it appears quite "Atlantean".

he's missing out on the yin/yang thingy....and that's his prerogative

irony....it's a funny one....

(11-11-2015 10:16 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  lol....that's the best you have now....more name calling? defines a true christian based on my experiences....we live in the same shitehole...

I'm fairly certain you implied 'they couldn't have done it w/o some form of divine intervention'......did I miss something?

your move pal....

No, I didn't.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU NEED TO PLAY OFF THE DOPE.

You are not even able to comprehend what is written here, much less communicate in complete sentences.

I said the accepted theory is that no outside help was given.

I myself speculate a more advance previous civilization built it.

(11-11-2015 10:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  What I said has nothing in the world to do with the bible or anyone's religion. The fact is these things were not possible for Egyptians 4500 years ago. They did NOT know the speed of light, the curvature of the earth or the distance form the sun, or a million other things built into that one structure.

Wait what?

There is universal, unequivical agreement from Egyptoligists, scientists, historians, archaeologists, laymen, and even ancient Egyptians themselves who wrote that they built the pyramids, that the pyramids were built by Egyptians.

The only, and I mean literally only, people who disagree with this are religious literalists and pseudoarchaeologists,

Science Alert - Here's How Scientists Know The Pyramids Were Built to Store Pharaohs, Not Grain. AP/Yahoo News - Experts Dismiss Carson's Belief Pyramids Used to Store Grain. Jason Colavito - The Long, Strange History of the Pyramids as the Granaries of Joseph

(11-11-2015 10:19 AM)miko33 Wrote:  No. I wonder if you can see the irony in this post. Not sure if you directly, but some people here will criticize modern scholars who find evidence that the things recorded by the ancients looks errant. People will accuse modern people of assuming the ancients were stupid can didn't know up from down. But when engineering marvels from the ancient world show an impressive amount of skill when being built, the same people who will support ancient writings tooth and nail will also look for a way to interject extraordinary means - or even supernatural means - into the equation.

Clearly there is an agenda there. Interestingly though, you have backed off from your claims of the supernatural or extraterrestrial vs last night and the original post I'm responding to here. But now it appears quite "Atlantean".

There is no irony. We are discussing what some archaeologist believe, not religion.

I'm not the one who brings up these questions, other scholars and archaeologists are.

I'm simply passing along their theories.

(11-11-2015 10:32 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  What I said has nothing in the world to do with the bible or anyone's religion. The fact is these things were not possible for Egyptians 4500 years ago. They did NOT know the speed of light, the curvature of the earth or the distance form the sun, or a million other things built into that one structure.

Wait what?

There is universal, unequivical agreement from Egyptoligists, scientists, historians, archaeologists, laymen, and even ancient Egyptians themselves who wrote that they built the pyramids, that the pyramids were built by Egyptians.

The only, and I mean literally only, people who disagree with this are religious literalists and pseudoarchaeologists,

Science Alert - Here's How Scientists Know The Pyramids Were Built to Store Pharaohs, Not Grain. AP/Yahoo News - Experts Dismiss Carson's Belief Pyramids Used to Store Grain. Jason Colavito - The Long, Strange History of the Pyramids as the Granaries of Joseph

You are not reading what I wrote

I do not believe the pyramids were built for grain or by Joseph.

And I are not talking about "the pyramids".

I am talking about THE great pyramid. Its totally different that all others, AND HAS ZERO EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPHS inside it.

That structure it TOTALLY unique to all others every built.

(11-11-2015 10:36 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:32 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  What I said has nothing in the world to do with the bible or anyone's religion. The fact is these things were not possible for Egyptians 4500 years ago. They did NOT know the speed of light, the curvature of the earth or the distance form the sun, or a million other things built into that one structure.

Wait what?

There is universal, unequivical agreement from Egyptoligists, scientists, historians, archaeologists, laymen, and even ancient Egyptians themselves who wrote that they built the pyramids, that the pyramids were built by Egyptians.

The only, and I mean literally only, people who disagree with this are religious literalists and pseudoarchaeologists,

Science Alert - Here's How Scientists Know The Pyramids Were Built to Store Pharaohs, Not Grain. AP/Yahoo News - Experts Dismiss Carson's Belief Pyramids Used to Store Grain. Jason Colavito - The Long, Strange History of the Pyramids as the Granaries of Joseph

You are not reading what I wrote

I do not believe the pyramids were built for grain or by Joseph.

But you believe they were built by an advanced civilization that was a precursor to the Egyptians that was lost to history - despite the documentation stating otherwise. That is no different than believing the pyramids were used to store grain contrary to the documentation stating otherwise.

(11-11-2015 10:31 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:16 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  lol....that's the best you have now....more name calling? defines a true christian based on my experiences....we live in the same shitehole...

I'm fairly certain you implied 'they couldn't have done it w/o some form of divine intervention'......did I miss something?

your move pal....

No, I didn't.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU NEED TO PLAY OFF THE DOPE.

You are not even able to comprehend what is written here, much less communicate in comptete sentences.

I said the accepted theory is that no outside help was given.

I mself speculate a more advance previous civilization built it.

I'll just let you bury yourself....you're doing just fine....

I won't respond in debate to what you just wrote.....

just keep the fingers tapping.....we understand....

(11-11-2015 10:40 AM)miko33 Wrote:  But you believe they were built by an advanced civilization that was a precursor to the Egyptians that was lost to history - despite the documentation stating otherwise. That is no different than believing the pyramids were used to store grain contrary to the documentation stating otherwise.

We have no documentation proving anything about who built the great pyramid.

The walls of the great pyramid are bare.

Egyptians did not bury their Kings with plain walls and no hieroglyphs.

(11-11-2015 10:33 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:19 AM)miko33 Wrote:  No. I wonder if you can see the irony in this post. Not sure if you directly, but some people here will criticize modern scholars who find evidence that the things recorded by the ancients looks errant. People will accuse modern people of assuming the ancients were stupid can didn't know up from down. But when engineering marvels from the ancient world show an impressive amount of skill when being built, the same people who will support ancient writings tooth and nail will also look for a way to interject extraordinary means - or even supernatural means - into the equation.

Clearly there is an agenda there. Interestingly though, you have backed off from your claims of the supernatural or extraterrestrial vs last night and the original post I'm responding to here. But now it appears quite "Atlantean".

There is no irony. We are discussing what some archaeologist believe, not religion.

I'm not the one who brings up these questions, other scholars and archaeologists are.

I'm simply passing along their theories.

An example of what I mean by the irony of the posts. Person A is offended by the notion that modern scholars pick apart ancient writings and conclude that the ancients were incapable of recording accurate history, were deceitful or were incapable of distinguishing between supernatural and natural events. He will argue that the ancients were not stupid or ignorant, and that they could record info just fine and accurately.

Person A will also conclude that ancient marvels that appear to go beyond what he thinks was their capabilities in technology will assume that some outside help was needed and that the ancients were incapable of these things - either extraterrestrial or supernatural means typically but also the mysterious lost and technologically advanced civilization did it.

It looks like person A is trying to have it both ways, but in reality you can see the agenda clearly in favor of keeping the door open to supernatural intervention.

(11-11-2015 10:36 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You are not reading what I wrote

Trust me, we all know what you are getting at.

(11-11-2015 10:36 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I am talking about THE great pyramid. Its totally different that all others, AND HAS ZERO EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPHS inside it.

I mean, this took Le Google .039 seconds to find:

http://news.discovery.com/history/ancien...110526.htm

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43314221/ns/te...kNg8Std6MI

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...kings.html

Perhaps you could illustrate exactly what you find disingenuous instead of just making vague assertions and expecting other people to do the work of disproving you?

(11-11-2015 10:46 AM)miko33 Wrote:  An example of what I mean by the irony of the posts. Person A is offended by the notion that modern scholars pick apart ancient writings and conclude that the ancients were incapable of recording accurate history, were deceitful or were incapable of distinguishing between supernatural and natural events. He will argue that the ancients were not stupid or ignorant, and that they could record info just fine and accurately.

Person A will also conclude that ancient marvels that appear to go beyond what he thinks was their capabilities in technology will assume that some outside help was needed and that the ancients were incapable of these things - either extraterrestrial or supernatural means typically but also the mysterious lost and technologically advanced civilization did it.

It looks like person A is trying to have it both ways, but in reality you can see the agenda clearly in favor of keeping the door open to supernatural intervention.

Who is person A and when were they offended by scholars trying to date the bible?

Oh, that's right, that never happened.

I'm the one always talking about the dates they gave the dead seas scrolls.

Stop making every topic on the planet about my religious beliefs.

I am talking here about the Great Pyramid, not how old the bible is.

(11-11-2015 10:47 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:36 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You are not reading what I wrote

Trust me, we all know what you are getting at.

(11-11-2015 10:36 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I am talking about THE great pyramid. Its totally different that all others, AND HAS ZERO EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPHS inside it.

I mean, this took Le Google .039 seconds to find:

http://news.discovery.com/history/ancien...110526.htm

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43314221/ns/te...kNg8Std6MI

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...kings.html

Perhaps you could illustrate exactly what you find disingenuous instead of just making vague assertions and expecting other people to do the work of disproving you?

Perhaps you could stop taking theories on the great pyramid so personal.

I'm well aware of all these things.

I get it. You believe that people with copper chisels and stone rocks for hammers knew the curvature of the earth, The speed of light, the distance form the sun, ect.

I do not.

But I'm not really concerned about it. I find it a curiosity, nothing more.

(11-11-2015 10:54 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:47 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:36 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You are not reading what I wrote

Trust me, we all know what you are getting at.

(11-11-2015 10:36 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I am talking about THE great pyramid. Its totally different that all others, AND HAS ZERO EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPHS inside it.

I mean, this took Le Google .039 seconds to find:

http://news.discovery.com/history/ancien...110526.htm

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43314221/ns/te...kNg8Std6MI

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...kings.html

Perhaps you could illustrate exactly what you find disingenuous instead of just making vague assertions and expecting other people to do the work of disproving you?

Perhaps you could stop taking theories on the great pyramid so personal.

I'm well aware of all these things.

I get it. You believe that people with copper chisels and Rocks for hammer knew the curvature of the earth, The speed of light, the distance form the sun, ect.

I do not.

I think everyone agrees that you "believe"

(11-11-2015 10:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I think everyone agrees that you "believe"

No doubt.

I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that is what most of this is really about for you and Miko.

Not pyramids.

I think everyone can see that pretty clearly.

(11-11-2015 10:54 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Perhaps you could stop taking theories on the great pyramid so personal.

Personal? (shrugs) It's a message board. It’s free. I don't have a meeting until 11am today. We're just having a chat......

(11-11-2015 10:54 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I get it. You believe that people with copper chisels and Rocks for hammer knew the curvature of the earth, The speed of light, the distance form the sun, ect. I do not.

What (non-imaginary, mind you) contrary evidence would you find persuasive?