(04-06-2014 11:52 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:49 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:27 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:44 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  I read the article questioning CJP's leadership skills, and I was following along pretty well till Calkins got to the Captain Kirk example. Calkins pointed to Kirk of the Starship Enterprise as an example of a strong leader who CJP should emulate, saying that the Memphis head coach should surround himself with advisers who had a different world view, such as Spock and Dr. McCoy.

Holy freakin warped drive! Since when do we use fantasy characters to add meat to our arguments.

I don't believe even Calkins believed what he wrote.

Since we hired someone that acts out being a fantasy character as a bb coach? Maybe that's his point? Or that CJP might be a space cadet?

As with anything Calkins writes when he's pandering to the Chris Vernon wannabes, it's hard to know exactly what he means. Pastner should hire an Xs and Os guy? Wow, that's brilliant, especially since he's about the last one in the city to put forth that opinion.

No, the point of the article was pandering to members of The Church of the Anti-Josh. Everything else was obvious and already stated filler.

I'm sorry I don't agree with this. The church of the anti josh, wow.

I thought the article was spot on.

(04-06-2014 05:25 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:19 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:12 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  I'm all for a x and o guy but from the way it sounds....we really don't have the budget for much.


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Yup.

Bruce Pearl X and O guy was his 3rd assistant.

Shay? He made $150K, years ago.

CJP is to insecure to hire somebody that will stretch him and challenge his thinking...he wants already yielded coaches that think like him...the staff actually needs BALANCE....Damon was that last two years but....Arizona related probably...cause that is all he knows...

(04-06-2014 06:09 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:52 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:49 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:27 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:44 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  I read the article questioning CJP's leadership skills, and I was following along pretty well till Calkins got to the Captain Kirk example. Calkins pointed to Kirk of the Starship Enterprise as an example of a strong leader who CJP should emulate, saying that the Memphis head coach should surround himself with advisers who had a different world view, such as Spock and Dr. McCoy.

Holy freakin warped drive! Since when do we use fantasy characters to add meat to our arguments.

I don't believe even Calkins believed what he wrote.

Since we hired someone that acts out being a fantasy character as a bb coach? Maybe that's his point? Or that CJP might be a space cadet?

As with anything Calkins writes when he's pandering to the Chris Vernon wannabes, it's hard to know exactly what he means. Pastner should hire an Xs and Os guy? Wow, that's brilliant, especially since he's about the last one in the city to put forth that opinion.

No, the point of the article was pandering to members of The Church of the Anti-Josh. Everything else was obvious and already stated filler.

I'm sorry I don't agree with this. The church of the anti josh, wow.

I thought the article was spot on.

Different strokes.

Even the strength coach who is your brother in law isn't safe from being axed.

Shooting %s improved for one game though....

(04-06-2014 06:49 PM)TigerBabbler Wrote:  CJP is to insecure to hire somebody that will stretch him and challenge his thinking...he wants already yielded coaches that think like him...the staff actually needs BALANCE....Damon was that last two years but....Arizona related probably...cause that is all he knows...

I hope its not another AZ tie in personally. CJP knows what he wants but I'm not sure he recognizes what this team needs. He and this team need a real x's and o's genius. Terry Tippett is the best at it in high school I've seen. In his 60s probably he wouldn't want the job, but he is a high character vet who could be a genuine asset coaching and I'm sure 100k would at least get his attention. He would be my man and Josh wouldn't have anything to fear from him.

I heard Lionel Hollins is looking for a job and he still owns a house in Germantown.

(04-06-2014 01:36 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I wonder which Star Trek character Calkins thinks is the model for the Asst Coach job?

Data?
Spock?
McCoy?
Janeway?
Sisko?
Other?

Red shirt guy in the landing party.

We really need Jedi to chime in on this

(04-07-2014 01:27 AM)samoan16851 Wrote:  I heard Lionel Hollins is looking for a job and he still owns a house in Germantown.

and I have a bridge to sell you between Memphis & Arkansas...

(04-06-2014 01:36 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I wonder which Star Trek character Calkins thinks is the model for the Asst Coach job?

Data?
Spock?
McCoy?
Janeway?
Sisko?
Other?

Red shirt guy in the landing party.

(04-07-2014 08:44 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:36 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I wonder which Star Trek character Calkins thinks is the model for the Asst Coach job?

Data?
Spock?
McCoy?
Janeway?
Sisko?
Other?

Red shirt guy in the landing party.

Ha! Well done!

(04-06-2014 05:36 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  If they take it it will be Miles Simon as next assistant and Alan Stein as S&C coach.....End of that discussion....And they would be homerun hires on both accounts.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....The World Is Ours Memphis....Either jump on board this train, or get Run over by this train called, Memphis....

what makes Miles Simon a home run hire and at what point does Pastner run out of Arizona college buddies?

(04-07-2014 09:32 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 05:36 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  If they take it it will be Miles Simon as next assistant and Alan Stein as S&C coach.....End of that discussion....And they would be homerun hires on both accounts.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....The World Is Ours Memphis....Either jump on board this train, or get Run over by this train called, Memphis....

what makes Miles Simon a home run hire and at what point does Pastner run out of Arizona college buddies?

The guy was fired by his mentor at his alma mater 6 years ago and hasn't been able to land a D1 job since.

(04-06-2014 08:07 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  I hope its not another AZ tie in personally. CJP knows what he wants but I'm not sure he recognizes what this team needs. He and this team need a real x's and o's genius.

10000% agree.
NO more Arizona connections unless you're bringing in Lute Olsen or Sean Miller.

I think it would be good to hire to bring in an experienced tactician and I think CJP Is smart enough to understand that sometimes it helps to have experience around.

I've been in architecture for over a decade and run my own studio for three. I still bring in consultants with more experience than me b/c on a case by case basis they can help me learn nuances of certain aspects of a project I am light on (structural consulting, zoning help, certain details). That is why skilled young people in positions of authority bring these people in. Not b/c they are poor at their jobs, but rather they are still growing and need some help with certain things.

As long as CJP understands he has limitations (indications are that he does) and skillfully tries to use his open staff spot to help address them, the dividends will be evident for the Tigers in the short term and CJP's career in the long term.

I actually very much think he will make a good hire here.

The budget issue raised does interest me. While this program compensates well, not sure how much coin can be allotted for the third assistant. We will see I suppose.

Some folks are very stubborn.

(04-06-2014 06:56 AM)hartless Wrote:  BUZZ PETERSON

LOBBYING

Don't let his record fool you - 267–227

Peterson, a standout at Asheville High School who was named the 1981 high school player of the year in North Carolina, played basketball for Dean Smith at North Carolina where he was a roommate of Michael Jordan (GOOD GOOD FRIENDS).

In his first stint as head coach at Appalachian State, he led the Mountaineers to the Southern Conference Tournament Championship during the 1999–2000 season. During his single season at Tulsa, 2000–01, Peterson led the Golden Hurricane to their second NIT championship.

Too bad Buzz has a "potty mouth"! Josh is never going to allow that on his sideline....see Dom Woodson for that!

(04-06-2014 08:37 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:34 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:20 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:24 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  Biggest question is does he have the budget to get that type guy?


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good question

It is one that tends to be ignored in messageboard discussions, but is very important.

Folks advocating changes costing more money better be ready to open their wallet (me included).

If the great tacticians could recruit they would be making the big money as head coaches. There are a lot of guys out there that would fit the bill. We spend more money than at least 80% of other D1 programs; money wouldn't be a problem for a 3rd assistant.

We spend more money than at least 80% of other D1 programs

^

(04-06-2014 06:49 PM)TigerBabbler Wrote:  CJP is to insecure to hire somebody that will stretch him and challenge his thinking...he wants already yielded coaches that think like him...the staff actually needs BALANCE....Damon was that last two years but....Arizona related probably...cause that is all he knows...

+8 WOOHOO..... It's gettin hot in here.....Someone that knows how to call a spade a spade.... It's not only about hiring....although hiring is a big part of it.....Josh has to adopt a philosophy within himself to allow the coaches to have an impact on the game and the players......"Joshs' way" Aint gonna get it done at this level....our players must be more disciplined and players need to understand and adopt roles to maximize their potential, as well as the teams overall potential......Players also need development IE Adonis;Geron;Shaq;Tarik;Austin;Iverson;Wilson;King and the new guys coming in.....and it's not all physical, there are mental aspects of the game that are just as important if not more.....Josh does not inhibit the ability to get that out of his players.....Therefore, Josh first has to admit that(within himself),come to that realization ; Then surround himself and the players with staff that can(instead of bringing in his buddies) and allow them(stop being the obsessive-compulsive control-freak) to have a positive impact on the team/players and results.......

The reason why Damon was allowed to do this and why he is such a devastating loss, Is because he was a "Josh buddy" (Arizona affiliated) so he was trusted by Josh, therefore allowed more leeway and rope to be an influence and it resulted in success......Josh has to "let go, and let coach" As he is NOT capable of transcending this program to championship level based on HIS philosophies alone.......

(04-07-2014 12:12 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 06:49 PM)TigerBabbler Wrote:  CJP is to insecure to hire somebody that will stretch him and challenge his thinking...he wants already yielded coaches that think like him...the staff actually needs BALANCE....Damon was that last two years but....Arizona related probably...cause that is all he knows...

+8 WOOHOO..... It's gettin hot in here.....Someone that knows how to call a spade a spade.... It's not only about hiring....although hiring is a big part of it.....Josh has to adopt a philosophy within himself to allow the coaches to have an impact on the game and the players......"Joshs' way" Aint gonna get it done at this level....our players must be more disciplined and players need to understand and adopt roles to maximize their potential, as well as the teams overall potential......Players also need development IE Adonis;Geron;Shaq;Tarik;Austin;Iverson;Wilson;King and the new guys coming in.....and it's not all physical, there are mental aspects of the game that are just as important if not more.....Josh does not inhibit the ability to get that out of his players.....Therefore, Josh first has to admit that(within himself),come to that realization ; Then surround himself and the players with staff that can(instead of bringing in his buddies) and allow them(stop being the obsessive-compulsive control-freak) to have a positive impact on the team/players and results.......

The reason why Damon was allowed to do this and why he is such a devastating loss, Is because he was a "Josh buddy" (Arizona affiliated) so he was trusted by Josh, therefore allowed more leeway and rope to be an influence and it resulted in success......Josh has to "let go, and let coach" As he is NOT capable of transcending this program to championship level based on HIS philosophies alone.......

One of these things is not like the other.