(04-06-2014 07:50 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:18 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Give us a list of good X and O and defense assistants that you think would be a good hire

Make your own noodle. I can't wait to read what you got. Not.

You get all ballistic upset when I call you Jo(k)e1, but all you've done is call people names. You should practice what you preach.

(04-06-2014 08:10 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:50 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:18 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Give us a list of good X and O and defense assistants that you think would be a good hire

Make your own noodle. I can't wait to read what you got. Not.

You get all ballistic upset when I call you Jo(k)e1, but all you've done is call people names. You should practice what you preach.

(04-06-2014 07:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:13 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Caulkins nails it with this. Great article. I hope Josh realizes he needs help with X's and O's and defense. He has a chance to get a proven veteran coach that could help him. We shall see.

Does he though? What's been wrong with those?

He has the recruiting thing covered; it's worth a try. The bigger problems are that we didn't make shots, and we were undersized at every position. Geron and Dixon were great defenders as juniors; last year...not so great. Did Pastner unteach them defense? Having both of them play very good defense was going to be a key component to our success.

(04-06-2014 08:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:13 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Caulkins nails it with this. Great article. I hope Josh realizes he needs help with X's and O's and defense. He has a chance to get a proven veteran coach that could help him. We shall see.

Does he though? What's been wrong with those?

He has the recruiting thing covered; it's worth a try. The bigger problems are that we didn't make shots, and we were undersized at every position. Geron and Dixon were great defenders as juniors; last year...not so great. Did Pastner unteach them defense? Having both of them play very good defense was going to be a key component to our success.

So what you are trying to say is, "we didn't make shots!"

(04-06-2014 08:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:13 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Caulkins nails it with this. Great article. I hope Josh realizes he needs help with X's and O's and defense. He has a chance to get a proven veteran coach that could help him. We shall see.

Does he though? What's been wrong with those?

He has the recruiting thing covered; it's worth a try. The bigger problems are that we didn't make shots, and we were undersized at every position. Geron and Dixon were great defenders as juniors; last year...not so great. Did Pastner unteach them defense? Having both of them play very good defense was going to be a key component to our success.

The defensive problems were three fold: no rim protector, a bunch of guards that never learned how to defend without using their hands and a bunch of guards that were playing too many minutes for the style of play that we wanted.

I don't think it had anything to do with Xs and Os.

(04-06-2014 01:24 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  Biggest question is does he have the budget to get that type guy?


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good question

(04-06-2014 08:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:13 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Caulkins nails it with this. Great article. I hope Josh realizes he needs help with X's and O's and defense. He has a chance to get a proven veteran coach that could help him. We shall see.

Does he though? What's been wrong with those?

He has the recruiting thing covered; it's worth a try. The bigger problems are that we didn't make shots, and we were undersized at every position. Geron and Dixon were great defenders as juniors; last year...not so great. Did Pastner unteach them defense? Having both of them play very good defense was going to be a key component to our success.

This really is the key question. What happened? The acolytes of the Church of the Anti-Josh would have us believe he did unteach them defense, but that belies the existence of muscle memory and reflexes. The schemes weren't any different...I have my own theory on what went wrong but haven't voiced it yet because the Priests of the Church of the Anti-Josh haven't quieted down enough yet. Anything anybody says that doesn't involve bashing the coach automatically gets shouted down.

(04-06-2014 08:25 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:13 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Caulkins nails it with this. Great article. I hope Josh realizes he needs help with X's and O's and defense. He has a chance to get a proven veteran coach that could help him. We shall see.

Does he though? What's been wrong with those?

He has the recruiting thing covered; it's worth a try. The bigger problems are that we didn't make shots, and we were undersized at every position. Geron and Dixon were great defenders as juniors; last year...not so great. Did Pastner unteach them defense? Having both of them play very good defense was going to be a key component to our success.

This really is the key question. What happened? The acolytes of the Church of the Anti-Josh would have us believe he did unteach them defense, but that belies the existence of muscle memory and reflexes. The schemes weren't any different...I have my own theory on what went wrong but haven't voiced it yet because the Priests of the Church of the Anti-Josh haven't quieted down enough yet. Anything anybody says that doesn't involve bashing the coach automatically gets shouted down.

You do know that the defensive rules changed over the summer, right?

They had to re-learn defense. Were they taught?

(04-06-2014 08:20 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:24 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  Biggest question is does he have the budget to get that type guy?


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good question

It is one that tends to be ignored in messageboard discussions, but is very important.

Folks advocating changes costing more money better be ready to open their wallet (me included).

(04-06-2014 08:34 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:20 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:24 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  Biggest question is does he have the budget to get that type guy?


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good question

It is one that tends to be ignored in messageboard discussions, but is very important.

Folks advocating changes costing more money better be ready to open their wallet (me included).

If the great tacticians could recruit they would be making the big money as head coaches. There are a lot of guys out there that would fit the bill. We spend more money than at least 80% of other D1 programs; money wouldn't be a problem for a 3rd assistant.

(04-06-2014 08:20 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:13 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Caulkins nails it with this. Great article. I hope Josh realizes he needs help with X's and O's and defense. He has a chance to get a proven veteran coach that could help him. We shall see.

Does he though? What's been wrong with those?

He has the recruiting thing covered; it's worth a try. The bigger problems are that we didn't make shots, and we were undersized at every position. Geron and Dixon were great defenders as juniors; last year...not so great. Did Pastner unteach them defense? Having both of them play very good defense was going to be a key component to our success.

The defensive problems were three fold: no rim protector, a bunch of guards that never learned how to defend without using their hands and a bunch of guards that were playing too many minutes for the style of play that we wanted.

I don't think it had anything to do with Xs and Os.

I actually agree that the new defensive rule changes for these set of guards were probably a detriment plus the 'in shape' of our bigs hurts

- Austin not enough muscle and strength yet
- Big Dom not in shape to go a long time and still developing to the game
- Pellom being hurt most of the season one way or another
- Shaq seem to wear down near the end of the season somewhat

If Pastner wants a will drawn up, then he should heed Calkin's advise. If Pastner needs college basketball coaching advice, then he is better served to obtain it from successful basketball coaches rather than a writer with no college basketball training or education or experience.

Calkins does not acknowledge that there have been more than one coaching style employed to achieve success and does not back up his opinion from authoritative sources. Instead, he cites a fictional out of this world example.

I have a CA subscription, but columns produced by Calkins prompts me to reconsider its value.

(04-06-2014 08:58 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:20 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:13 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Caulkins nails it with this. Great article. I hope Josh realizes he needs help with X's and O's and defense. He has a chance to get a proven veteran coach that could help him. We shall see.

Does he though? What's been wrong with those?

He has the recruiting thing covered; it's worth a try. The bigger problems are that we didn't make shots, and we were undersized at every position. Geron and Dixon were great defenders as juniors; last year...not so great. Did Pastner unteach them defense? Having both of them play very good defense was going to be a key component to our success.

The defensive problems were three fold: no rim protector, a bunch of guards that never learned how to defend without using their hands and a bunch of guards that were playing too many minutes for the style of play that we wanted.

I don't think it had anything to do with Xs and Os.

I actually agree that the new defensive rule changes for these set of guards were probably a detriment plus the 'in shape' of our bigs hurts

- Austin not enough muscle and strength yet
- Big Dom not in shape to go a long time and still developing to the game
- Pellom being hurt most of the season one way or another
- Shaq seem to wear down near the end of the season somewhat

The guards being able to play swarming defense should have helped out the bigs, defensively. Pellom being hurt was a killer. The guards being able to hit outside shots should have opened up everything inside and the offense would have been lethal. JJ and Geron being awful from outside was a killer.

(04-06-2014 08:58 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:20 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 07:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:13 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Caulkins nails it with this. Great article. I hope Josh realizes he needs help with X's and O's and defense. He has a chance to get a proven veteran coach that could help him. We shall see.

Does he though? What's been wrong with those?

He has the recruiting thing covered; it's worth a try. The bigger problems are that we didn't make shots, and we were undersized at every position. Geron and Dixon were great defenders as juniors; last year...not so great. Did Pastner unteach them defense? Having both of them play very good defense was going to be a key component to our success.

The defensive problems were three fold: no rim protector, a bunch of guards that never learned how to defend without using their hands and a bunch of guards that were playing too many minutes for the style of play that we wanted.

I don't think it had anything to do with Xs and Os.

I actually agree that the new defensive rule changes for these set of guards were probably a detriment plus the 'in shape' of our bigs hurts

- Austin not enough muscle and strength yet
- Big Dom not in shape to go a long time and still developing to the game
- Pellom being hurt most of the season one way or another
- Shaq seem to wear down near the end of the season somewhat

I hadn't realized all that, I guess, but you're right on all counts. Then you add in Josh still learning and being somewhat stubborn, and an undercurrent of disquiet I sensed on the team and you wind up with uneven results. Good points Mike.

(04-06-2014 08:37 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:34 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:20 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 01:24 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  Biggest question is does he have the budget to get that type guy?


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good question

It is one that tends to be ignored in messageboard discussions, but is very important.

Folks advocating changes costing more money better be ready to open their wallet (me included).

If the great tacticians could recruit they would be making the big money as head coaches. There are a lot of guys out there that would fit the bill. We spend more money than at least 80% of other D1 programs; money wouldn't be a problem for a 3rd assistant.

Based on my budget experience at my job, every dollar of revenue is committed for some purpose already and overspending in one area means finding savings from another area or coverage from unbudgeted revenue. Finding money for unplanned increased expenses is not always easy and IMO is an important factor considered by decision makers.

So the deep researched and nuanced conclusion is that:

It would be a good thing if Pastner hired a good strategic basketball assistant.

Really!!??

That is obvious.

The ridiculous attempt to stir up phone calls and be provocative by inferring that a reason Pastner would not do this is because he is insecure...

is crap.

Look, coach instilled in them how he wanted them to play D.

In CUSA the chase the ball tactic worked however against real teams the philosophy was exposed. Always ball chasing, going over screens well beyond the goal, not remaining within reach of key players (see Giffei of uconn) even after they've drilled 3s repeatedly, no emphasis on staying in front of your man, never taught how to properly defend a pick n roll or back-door cuts and the list goes on.

Like Napier said, it wasn't the hot shooting of uconn it wasthe crappy defensive philosophy of Memphis. But that's what one should expect from a coach rooted in aau.

One thing to want to speed up the game by playing scramble D, it's another to simply run around with your head cut off.

#Coaching #failuretocoursecorrect

Funny, UK was so porous early on defensively it was punishment to watch them....now all of a sudden theyre rocking n rolling.

I know I know.

Had nothing to do with their coach rather "they just grew up". Save the baloney, i ain't buying it .

5 years as head coach and 8 years under Olsen. Here we are talking about a first year glaring weakness.