(05-11-2018 06:58 PM)hofbballfan Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:17 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:10 PM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 12:57 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote: [ -> ]Hofstra was the better team in this tournament but I still think we are the best team in the league.
Other than the regular season series, how is James Madison better than Hofstra? The teams finished first and second in opposite orders for the regular season title and CAA Tournament. Hofstra has a better RPI, winning percentage, and run differential. Hofstra passed you in run differential today.
How is JMU the better team? Because we are. And JMU holds a 3-2 advantage head-to-head on the season.
Good luck to Hofstra in the NCAAT.
You may have the 3-2 advantage, but the 2 wins Hofstra got in the series were the 2 most important wins of the season. The amount of wins means nothing if you can't win the big games.
As I said yesterday.
This weekend means little. Both teams are #2 seeds.
Next week matters.....
(05-11-2018 07:14 PM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:58 PM)hofbballfan Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:17 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:10 PM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 12:57 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote: [ -> ]Hofstra was the better team in this tournament but I still think we are the best team in the league.
Other than the regular season series, how is James Madison better than Hofstra? The teams finished first and second in opposite orders for the regular season title and CAA Tournament. Hofstra has a better RPI, winning percentage, and run differential. Hofstra passed you in run differential today.
How is JMU the better team? Because we are. And JMU holds a 3-2 advantage head-to-head on the season.
Good luck to Hofstra in the NCAAT.
You may have the 3-2 advantage, but the 2 wins Hofstra got in the series were the 2 most important wins of the season. The amount of wins means nothing if you can't win the big games.
As I said yesterday.
This weekend means little. Both teams are #2 seeds.
Next week matters.....
Yep. We will see who progresses further in the NCAAT.
And looking forward to next year, JMU softball fans can once again enjoy hosting the CAAT...because of those 3 wins over Hofstra.
(05-11-2018 06:58 PM)hofbballfan Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:17 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:10 PM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 12:57 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote: [ -> ]Hofstra was the better team in this tournament but I still think we are the best team in the league.
Other than the regular season series, how is James Madison better than Hofstra? The teams finished first and second in opposite orders for the regular season title and CAA Tournament. Hofstra has a better RPI, winning percentage, and run differential. Hofstra passed you in run differential today.
How is JMU the better team? Because we are. And JMU holds a 3-2 advantage head-to-head on the season.
Good luck to Hofstra in the NCAAT.
You may have the 3-2 advantage, but the 2 wins Hofstra got in the series were the 2 most important wins of the season. The amount of wins means nothing if you can't win the big games.
Sorry, the bigger wins were the 3 that secured the regular season league championship and the CAAT in Harrisonburg next year.
The 2 wins this week were only important to HU fans in as much they secured a spot in the NCAAT.
(05-11-2018 07:55 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:58 PM)hofbballfan Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:17 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:10 PM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 12:57 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote: [ -> ]Hofstra was the better team in this tournament but I still think we are the best team in the league.
Other than the regular season series, how is James Madison better than Hofstra? The teams finished first and second in opposite orders for the regular season title and CAA Tournament. Hofstra has a better RPI, winning percentage, and run differential. Hofstra passed you in run differential today.
How is JMU the better team? Because we are. And JMU holds a 3-2 advantage head-to-head on the season.
Good luck to Hofstra in the NCAAT.
You may have the 3-2 advantage, but the 2 wins Hofstra got in the series were the 2 most important wins of the season. The amount of wins means nothing if you can't win the big games.
Sorry, the bigger wins were the 3 that secured the regular season league championship and the CAAT in Harrisonburg next year.
The 2 wins this week were only important to HU fans in as much they secured a spot in the NCAAT.
Two good teams that I hope advance far in the NCAA tournament. If only the winner adnvaces to the NCAAT, then the CAA tournament win will be more important. If both advance, I feel winning the regular season is more important. More games over a longer period of time.
Given JMUs youth, next season looks bright.
(05-11-2018 06:17 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:10 PM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 12:57 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote: [ -> ]Hofstra was the better team in this tournament but I still think we are the best team in the league.
Other than the regular season series, how is James Madison better than Hofstra? The teams finished first and second in opposite orders for the regular season title and CAA Tournament. Hofstra has a better RPI, winning percentage, and run differential. Hofstra passed you in run differential today.
How is JMU the better team? Because we are. And JMU holds a 3-2 advantage head-to-head on the season.
Good luck to Hofstra in the NCAAT.
Last year the Dodgers won 104 games and lost the season series to the Diamondbacks who won 93 and the Rockies who won 87. Who was the best team in the division? The CAA Tournament matters beyond who makes the NCAA Tournament. In Men's Basketball, North Carolina and Duke would want to stop the other one from winning the regular season and ACC Tournament titles even if both of them were going to get a top 4 NCAA Tournament seed.
(05-11-2018 07:55 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]The 2 wins this week were only important to HU fans in as much they secured a spot in the NCAAT.
If Hofstra had lost twice to you and won the rest of their CAA Tournament games, they wouldn't have any worries about not getting an at-large bid.
(05-12-2018 08:59 AM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:17 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:10 PM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 12:57 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote: [ -> ]Hofstra was the better team in this tournament but I still think we are the best team in the league.
Other than the regular season series, how is James Madison better than Hofstra? The teams finished first and second in opposite orders for the regular season title and CAA Tournament. Hofstra has a better RPI, winning percentage, and run differential. Hofstra passed you in run differential today.
How is JMU the better team? Because we are. And JMU holds a 3-2 advantage head-to-head on the season.
Good luck to Hofstra in the NCAAT.
Last year the Dodgers won 104 games and lost the season series to the Diamondbacks who won 93 and the Rockies who won 87. Who was the best team in the division? The CAA Tournament matters beyond who makes the NCAA Tournament. In Men's Basketball, North Carolina and Duke would want to stop the other one from winning the regular season and ACC Tournament titles even if both of them were going to get a top 4 NCAA Tournament seed.
(05-11-2018 07:55 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]The 2 wins this week were only important to HU fans in as much they secured a spot in the NCAAT.
If Hofstra had lost twice to you and won the rest of their CAA Tournament games, they wouldn't have any worries about not getting an at-large bid.
Let's be clear about one thing, if Megan Good plays this year then you can cut Hofstra's run production against us by 4/5ths and we aren't questioning who the better team is. Hofstra is a good team, JMU is a good team (apparently if they played a best of 5, JMU would win). JMU with one of the top 5 players in the country is a great team, as will be evidenced next year.
I hope they both secure a #2 seed, and I hope they both advance out of their Regional. I hope Hofstra keeps up the solid work and gives us some competition in the league next year, and I hope we are both good enough to host a Regional next year. It's good for both programs to have another conference mate stepping up.
(05-12-2018 08:59 AM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:17 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 06:10 PM)EvanJ Wrote: [ -> ] (05-11-2018 12:57 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote: [ -> ]Hofstra was the better team in this tournament but I still think we are the best team in the league.
Other than the regular season series, how is James Madison better than Hofstra? The teams finished first and second in opposite orders for the regular season title and CAA Tournament. Hofstra has a better RPI, winning percentage, and run differential. Hofstra passed you in run differential today.
How is JMU the better team? Because we are. And JMU holds a 3-2 advantage head-to-head on the season.
Good luck to Hofstra in the NCAAT.
Last year the Dodgers won 104 games and lost the season series to the Diamondbacks who won 93 and the Rockies who won 87. Who was the best team in the division? The CAA Tournament matters beyond who makes the NCAA Tournament. In Men's Basketball, North Carolina and Duke would want to stop the other one from winning the regular season and ACC Tournament titles even if both of them were going to get a top 4 NCAA Tournament seed.
(05-11-2018 07:55 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]The 2 wins this week were only important to HU fans in as much they secured a spot in the NCAAT.
If Hofstra had lost twice to you and won the rest of their CAA Tournament games, they wouldn't have any worries about not getting an at-large bid.
This isn't baseball, its women's college softball, and the teams played 5 face-to-face this season, and HU lost 3 times. Thems the facts. Own it, and deal with it.
Nation is right that only if JMU is left out of the NCAAT would winning the CAAT be important. That's not likely to happen.
FWIW I like the Hofstra team, I like their fans. I was impressed with their coach, especially each of the post game interviews she did after we swept them 2 weeks ago. So we won 3 out of 5, would we win 3 out of the next 5? It doesn't matter as these 2 teams will be significantly different next time we play. I hope they go far. If their fans weren't giving me lip service, they hope we go far too. It helps us both if we both do well. Two weeks ago we had a barrage of timely hits, and they had a lot more LOB than we did. This weekend was their time.
(Now before you think I love Hofstra too much, I am still pissed that their football team beat us back in 2009, and then they drop football. What was that all about? Keeping us from having revenge? It was a weird game but I will not talk about it anymore here on the Softball thread.)
(05-12-2018 11:41 AM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote: [ -> ]FWIW I like the Hofstra team, I like their fans. I was impressed with their coach, especially each of the post game interviews she did after we swept them 2 weeks ago. So we won 3 out of 5, would we win 3 out of the next 5? It doesn't matter as these 2 teams will be significantly different next time we play. I hope they go far. If their fans weren't giving me lip service, they hope we go far too. It helps us both if we both do well. Two weeks ago we had a barrage of timely hits, and they had a lot more LOB than we did. This weekend was their time.
(Now before you think I love Hofstra too much, I am still pissed that their football team beat us back in 2009, and then they drop football. What was that all about? Keeping us from having revenge? It was a weird game but I will not talk about it anymore here on the Softball thread.)
Methinks you do show HU a bit too much love.
Hofstra not only dropped FB, they blocked Stony Brook from joining the CAA as a full-time member. That also likely had repercussions with Albany's interest/ability to join as a full-time member. As far as I'm concerned those sh*t moves by HU's administration are far worse than just dropping FB.
I still enjoy having Hofstra as a rival in whatever sports they have, but blocking SB was a crap thing to do. Admittedly HU was concerned Stony Brook would have been a strong rival for HU (not only on the athletic field but as an academic institution) located nearby on Long Island, so I understand the decision. Yet what seems forgotten now is how desperate HU was to join the CAA, and then what do they do after being admitted? They drop FB, and follow that stinky move by blocking other good institutional matches from joining as full-time members.
Those action's by HU irk me the same way had (hypothetically) Elon tried to block UNCW, or RU tried to block W&M from joining the CAA as full-time members. Private schools simply should not be able to block/blackball the publics from joining the CAA if the publics are a good fit for the league. I'll add, had SB and Albany joined, and HU left in a huff, I can't help but think today's CAA would be stronger for the exchange.
This might be slightly OT, but during the FSU-Pitt softball game today, I saw that we were going to be in a tournament next year in St. Petersburg in mid February - and it will be a loaded tournament indeed. Oklahoma, Florida State, and other top P5 teams will be there. I am looking for more information about it, but have come up empty so far (and I stupidly did not take a picture of the TV on my phone!). I'll update when I find the website, unless someone finds it before me.
(05-12-2018 02:55 PM)AssyrianDuke Wrote: [ -> ]This might be slightly OT, but during the FSU-Pitt softball game today, I saw that we were going to be in a tournament next year in St. Petersburg in mid February - and it will be a loaded tournament indeed. Oklahoma, Florida State, and other top P5 teams will be there. I am looking for more information about it, but have come up empty so far (and I stupidly did not take a picture of the TV on my phone!). I'll update when I find the website, unless someone finds it before me.
Maybe this one...
http://www.usfseries.com/2018-tournament...itational/
Hosted by University of South Florida...Michele Smith Pediatric Cancer Invitational
(05-12-2018 03:01 PM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ] (05-12-2018 02:55 PM)AssyrianDuke Wrote: [ -> ]This might be slightly OT, but during the FSU-Pitt softball game today, I saw that we were going to be in a tournament next year in St. Petersburg in mid February - and it will be a loaded tournament indeed. Oklahoma, Florida State, and other top P5 teams will be there. I am looking for more information about it, but have come up empty so far (and I stupidly did not take a picture of the TV on my phone!). I'll update when I find the website, unless someone finds it before me.
Maybe this one... http://www.usfseries.com/2018-tournament...itational/
Hosted by University of South Florida...Michele Smith Pediatric Cancer Invitational
Something similar to that, but not exactly that. I'm rewatching the game on ESPN+ so I should have the answer soon.
(05-12-2018 02:55 PM)AssyrianDuke Wrote: [ -> ]This might be slightly OT, but during the FSU-Pitt softball game today, I saw that we were going to be in a tournament next year in St. Petersburg in mid February - and it will be a loaded tournament indeed. Oklahoma, Florida State, and other top P5 teams will be there. I am looking for more information about it, but have come up empty so far (and I stupidly did not take a picture of the TV on my phone!). I'll update when I find the website, unless someone finds it before me.
Finally found it, but the website gives little to no usable information. From the ESPN telecast, it will be February 14-17, 2019 and the teams listed to attend (in no particular order) are:
Oklahoma, Florida State, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Kentucky, LSU, Notre Dame, Tennessee, JMU, Oklahoma State, and Florida Atlantic.
That looks like a great tournament, and I expect us to win some games against some quality opponents, especially if Megan is back to 100%.
(05-12-2018 10:22 AM)JMUSteeler Wrote: [ -> ]Let's be clear about one thing, if Megan Good plays this year then you can cut Hofstra's run production against us by 4/5ths and we aren't questioning who the better team is. Hofstra is a good team, JMU is a good team (apparently if they played a best of 5, JMU would win). JMU with one of the top 5 players in the country is a great team, as will be evidenced next year.
I hope they both secure a #2 seed, and I hope they both advance out of their Regional. I hope Hofstra keeps up the solid work and gives us some competition in the league next year, and I hope we are both good enough to host a Regional next year. It's good for both programs to have another conference mate stepping up.
I acknowledge that you would be better than Hofstra if you had her.
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15585 expected you to be 21st before the season started, and that was with Good. You exceeded the expectation College Sports Madness would have had for you without her. Would Good, Alexander, and Buresch have started once every series?
(05-12-2018 10:32 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]This isn't baseball, its women's college softball, and the teams played 5 face-to-face this season, and HU lost 3 times. Thems the facts. Own it, and deal with it.
Would you have won 3 out of 5 if 2 games were at Hofstra rather than you hosting all 5? There are some World Series, NBA Finals, and Stanley Cup Finals that would have gone differently if the better team hosted every game.
If Hofstra finishes second in their regional and you finish third, who's better? I'm not saying that's what will happen. I'm giving a hypothetical.
Since Hofstra joined the CAA, the most wins for CAA team(s) in one NCAA Tournament is 4. That could be tied or broken. 4 wins was done by Hofstra in 2004 and 2012, Hofstra had 3 and you had 1 in 2013, and you had 4 in 2016.
(05-13-2018 02:54 PM)Wear Purple Wrote: [ -> ]This one does as well but as a 3-seed... http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/soft...acketology
1. USCe 2. California (who the Dukes beat out in Hawaii) 3. Dukes 4. Prairie View A&M
I'd be happy with that for both CAA teams. It has Hofstra playing 15 seed Auburn. You would have a long bus trip or short flight to Columbia, SC, and one of the top conference teams in California would have a long flight.
How is this even a conversation? Enjoy the tourney win. Head-to-head is a clear indicator.
JMU vs Ohio on Friday at 3 PM at Knoxville.
Dumbest argument ever. Head to head is great and all but they got the hardware. That's all that matters. Arguing over better team is a pointless waste of time.
Go win the Regional now.
(05-13-2018 09:22 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote: [ -> ]Dumbest argument ever. Head to head is great and all but they got the hardware. That's all that matters. Arguing over better team is a pointless waste of time.
Go win the Regional now.
Your entitled to your opinion, but HU doesn’t have the the regular season title, and that title is all that matters. Perhaps you havent been follows along, but that regular season title means JMU hosts next years CAAT.