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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
(11-09-2017 04:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (11-09-2017 02:21 PM)YNot Wrote: (11-09-2017 01:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (11-09-2017 11:18 AM)YNot Wrote: (11-07-2017 02:00 PM)BePcr07 Wrote: Presuming BYU stays independent and the AAC added Colorado St, Air Force, Boise St (fb), and San Diego St (fb) - the West division would likely be: San Diego St, Boise St, Colorado St, Air Force, Navy, Tulsa, SMU, Houston. That means Boise St would play Tulane, Memphis, Central Florida, South Florida, East Carolina, Cincinnati, Temple, and Connecticut once every four years.
I'd like to point out that BYU had a series with UConn in '14-'15. Boise St. and UConn have a '14/'18 series. Within the last 3-4 years, BYU has also played series with UCF, Houston, Cincinnati, and ECU. BYU has *future* series scheduled with USF and ECU; Boise St. has a future series with Cincinnati.
This suggest that BYU and Boise St. actually do want to play some of the AAC East schools.
I won't challenge a BYU fan about what BYU wants, but I'd say that generally speaking, being willing to do a home-and-home with a school doesn't necessarily mean you want them in your conference, playing them every year.
E.g., Miami played USF five straight years, from 2009-2013, but as a Bulls fan i never fancied that this meant they wanted us in the ACC. It was what it was, an OOC game series.
I do not think BYU wants to play UConn or USF every year. But, as pointed out in this thread, BYU would only play those schools occasionally. And, BYU clearly wants occasional games in every region of the country and has shown that it is willing to play AAC opponents on a home-and-home basis.
This point refutes the argument that BYU and Boise St. don't really want games v. Temple, Memphis, USF, Tulsa, and UConn...not to prove that BYU and Boise St. would want to play all of those schools every year.
Really, i threw in the "playing them every year" line as an afterthought, didn't attach much significance to it at all, as it didn't matter to my point, which was i never thought that because Miami was willing to play us OOC for 5 straight years that this meant they wanted us in the ACC, whether the ACC schedule would have them playing us every year or every four years or whatever.
But you seemed to latch on to that. Sounds like you'd like to see BYU in an expanded AAC? Does the rest of the BYU community want that?
We know that Boise and SDSU wanted to be part of the AAC, as long as the money is there and the Olympic sports issue can be worked out. We also know that BYU and Air Force at least considered the football only concept - but both declined. For BYU, despite the decline to become part of the AAC, what followed was a "quasi-affiliation" (as termed by the AAC commissioner and BYU AD), which included several home-and-home series with AAC schools and the Miami Beach Bowl affiliation.
I would still like to see BYU in an expanded AAC for all sports, if the right mix of western teams come along; including Boise, SDSU, and Gonzaga. I have promoted this since at least 2014.
The BYU community is warming up to the concept. Many fans are getting restless and pining for conference membership. A minority call for BYU back to the MWC, but the vast majority is against that. A substantial number of fans would at least seriously consider a move to the AAC as long as it included other western schools as well.
But, for now there is too much invested into independence to make an immediate jump to a non-P5 conference feasible within the next 2 or 3 years. Most future game contracts have an out if BYU joins a P5 conference, but not if BYU were to join a non-P5 conference - which could mean substantial contractual payouts to break those game contracts. (Although, I think BYU could focus on quality OOC games and then reschedule some of the existing contracts to future seasons such that the number of contractual payouts would be minimal, if any).
I really do think the AAC could lure BYU to the conference for all sports (for 2020 or 2021 season), if they focus on the upgrade for BYU basketball. SDSU was one of BYU's primary basketball rivals in the MWC. If BYU saw an option that included SDSU and Boise and at least one other western Olympic sports member, the opportunity to play in a power basketball conference (which the AAC would be - probably already is) would be too great to pass up. To get Gonzaga involved in the AAC western expansion for Olympic sports would seal the deal.
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