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NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
Are there any legitimate contenders for the NY6 bowl for the so called "G5" outside of the AAC, or do you think it is locked up for USF, UCF, or Memphis? If there are other contenders, who are they? Curious as to the general thought process. Marshall? Boise St?
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NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
It would take a fair amount of help, since AAC teams are the only undefeated teams at the moment

(To the best of my knowledge, apologies to any fans of undefeated teams I missed)

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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
So I guess the question is, what would it take for another team to get it. Multiple losses by AAC? Memphis winning AAC? Boise winning MWC?
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
SMU playing spoiler is about the only thing I could see happen to UCF and/or Memphis. Then UCF beats USF. Could possibly open the door for other one loss teams but I think it is highly unlikely to happen.
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NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
I think if the AAC blows this, they have a problem. The only one I see is possibly Boise and they need to run the table and get major help from lower level AAC teams. I have never seen western football without an upper echelon team anywhere like this before. PAC is pretty much dead for playoff also.


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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
(10-25-2017 09:12 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  So I guess the question is, what would it take for another team to get it. Multiple losses by AAC? Memphis winning AAC? Boise winning MWC?

If Memphis runs the table and wins the CCG they're a shoe-in imho.
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
Marshall and Toledo are 32 in the ap poll based off of "others receiving votes." Sdsu is 29 but they likely won't win the division so they don't count. If the eventual AAC champion (assuming it's Memphis, UCF, or USF) suffers two unexpected losses and Marshall or Toledo win out, the AAC may miss out. But it would take a combination of events occuring even more unlikely than those that kept the US out of the world cup
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
REMAINING GAMES:

USF: Houston (4-3), @UConn (3-4), Tulsa (2-6), @UCF (6-0)
UCF: D1AA, @SMU (5-2), UConn (3-4), @Temple (3-5), USF (7-0)

Memphis: Tulane (3-4), @Tulsa (2-6), SMU (5-2), ECU (2-6)

One thing I'll say is that the AAC isn't seen quite as strong this year as some years, but USF/UCF steal the show over everyone in G5.

The AAC champ having 2 Losses is possible (Memphis winning AACC game as easiest example)... but who would compare to Memphis (or UCF/USF each losing two before beating each other then Memphis)?

Here's my rankings (record most important) IF either of them Win Out:

Toledo: 6-1 (Plays NIU, WMU, @Ohio + Ohio MACC) -- Never lost to any G5; Lost to @Miami-FL by a lot after a half-time lead
Marshall: 6-1 (Plays WKU, SoMiss + SoMiss/NTex CUSAC) -- Never lost to any G5; Lost to @NC-State by 17

Boise: 5-2 (Plays @CSU, @Fresno + Fresno MWC) -- Beat Troy + Never Lost to any G5; Lost to @Wash-State by 3, Virginia by a lot
Fresno: 5-2 (Plays @Wyoming, Boise + Boise/CSU MWC) -- Never lost to any G5; Only Lost to Alabama + Washington!
ColoSt: 6-2 (Plays @Wyoming, Boise + Fresno MWC) -- Beat Oregon St + Never lost to any G5; Lost to Colorado + @Alabama

N. Illinois: 6-2 (Plays @Toledo, WMU + Ohio MACC) -- Beat @Nebraska; HAS lost to a G5 (Ranked @SDSU) + Lost to Boston College by 3
SoMiss: 5-2 (Plays @Tennesse, @Marshall + Marshall CUSAC) -- HAS lost to a G5 (NTexas) + Lost to Kentucky in a close one
Ohio: 6-2 (Plays Toledo + Toledo/NIU MACC) -- Beat Kansas if that counts; HAS lost to a G5 (CMU) + Lost to @Purdue by a lot

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IMO: Given that the "BCS" bowls give P5 conference Champs auto-bids, and the G5 is based on Ranking AMONG conference Champs -- I think it'd be best to have a Play-In/Play-Off game in mid-December between the Top 2 G5 Conf Champs to see who goes. A Regular Bowl would be slated to have Either One, so no belated team-shifting-around to bowls later.
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
It's possible but unlikely that any of UCF, USF or Memphis lose before the AAC CCG. If that's the case, it's locked up. Since Memphis is the one with a loss right now (to UCF), let's say they lose to SMU. Even then, they will have beaten a high ranked, likely undefeated UCF or USF in the CCG, so I don't see them losing it.

USF could lose to Houston, but that's it before the season ending UCF game. If they lose to UH and beat UCF and Memphis, they will have one loss with wins over 2 ranked teams at the end. Shoo-in.

I don't see UCF losing before the USF game, so win that and beat Memphis, and that's an all-time lock. Nobody else really has a chance to get a ranked win late, so it is almost certainly one of those 3, with the winner of UCF-USF the most likely.
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
If you go back less than two weeks, the conversation was very different. So, I'm not ready to say that it won't change again in the next few weeks. We're only just starting to learn how good (or bad) some of these schools really are.
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