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RE: University of Cincinnati Expects Record Enrollment in Fall 2017
(07-12-2017 03:00 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
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(07-12-2017 12:37 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:22 PM)KCat Wrote:  Universities are at a cross roads... They need to get back to preparing students for a career and drop the social engineering...
Days of record enrollment may be coming to an end.......

*A new Pew Research Center survey found 58 percent of right-leaning Americans think colleges and universities are harming the country—up 13 percent from last year.

So are you among those who think universities should stop teaching things like History or Philosophy or Astronomy? Just become purely utilitarian trade schools turning out trained, but not educated, worker bees for corporate America? The job of a research university is to educate students and create new knowledge. And while that doesn't need to be incompatible with some form of training, that shouldn't negate the primary mission. If somebody is uncomfortable with that mission then send your kids to a community college or trade school like DeVry.
Getting an education that leads to an occupation and getting exposed to history, etc. are not mutually exclusive. My BBA was in Accounting but about 50% of my course load could be described as "liberal arts". Those courses included multiple English courses, Physics, Organic and Inorganic Chemistry, Modern European History, Psychology, Abnormal Psychology, Calculus, Boolean Geometry, Economics.

Getting a foo foo degree allows too many to run up costs of hundreds of thousands and be qualified to ask "You want to super size that?"

It depends on the school that foo-foo degree comes from. There is no such thing as a business major at the most elite schools in the country like Harvard, Stanford, Chicago, Yale. Elite employers like Wall Street, blue chip consulting firms and Silicon Valley VC firms, don't recruit anyone from schools like UC, but they hire hundreds of History and Philosophy majors from places like Princeton and Chicago every year.

Even at top public flagships, there are plenty of recruiters and job opportunities for liberal arts majors. I'd have no problem with a kid majoring in History at a top 25 public university. The further down the food chain from there, I would tend to agree with you that immediate job opportunities out of college might narrow, but I still don't think it consigns one to working in fast food.

That is factually incorrect. Harvard, Stanford, Chicago, etc have excellent undergraduate business programs. It might be called "management" or "finance" or "accounting" but it's still business.

Elite employers on Wall Street and Silicon Valley DO hire from UC (I teach business at a state school that ranks lower than UC in every metric, and many of my students from last year are on Wall Street or Silicon Valley today).

They hire from Miami, but typically only students from the business school.

They don't hire from Xavier, despite Xavier having better programs in the liberal arts.

I'm all for liberal arts programs being funded, but only at the same level as student demand. Most schools I'm familiar with heavily subsidize the liberal arts (aka steal money from other programs) despite low much lower student counts in liberal arts classes.
 
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RE: University of Cincinnati Expects Record Enrollment in Fall 2017
(07-15-2017 02:03 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 03:00 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 02:14 PM)doss2 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:37 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:22 PM)KCat Wrote:  Universities are at a cross roads... They need to get back to preparing students for a career and drop the social engineering...
Days of record enrollment may be coming to an end.......

*A new Pew Research Center survey found 58 percent of right-leaning Americans think colleges and universities are harming the country—up 13 percent from last year.

So are you among those who think universities should stop teaching things like History or Philosophy or Astronomy? Just become purely utilitarian trade schools turning out trained, but not educated, worker bees for corporate America? The job of a research university is to educate students and create new knowledge. And while that doesn't need to be incompatible with some form of training, that shouldn't negate the primary mission. If somebody is uncomfortable with that mission then send your kids to a community college or trade school like DeVry.
Getting an education that leads to an occupation and getting exposed to history, etc. are not mutually exclusive. My BBA was in Accounting but about 50% of my course load could be described as "liberal arts". Those courses included multiple English courses, Physics, Organic and Inorganic Chemistry, Modern European History, Psychology, Abnormal Psychology, Calculus, Boolean Geometry, Economics.

Getting a foo foo degree allows too many to run up costs of hundreds of thousands and be qualified to ask "You want to super size that?"

It depends on the school that foo-foo degree comes from. There is no such thing as a business major at the most elite schools in the country like Harvard, Stanford, Chicago, Yale. Elite employers like Wall Street, blue chip consulting firms and Silicon Valley VC firms, don't recruit anyone from schools like UC, but they hire hundreds of History and Philosophy majors from places like Princeton and Chicago every year.

Even at top public flagships, there are plenty of recruiters and job opportunities for liberal arts majors. I'd have no problem with a kid majoring in History at a top 25 public university. The further down the food chain from there, I would tend to agree with you that immediate job opportunities out of college might narrow, but I still don't think it consigns one to working in fast food.

That is factually incorrect. Harvard, Stanford, Chicago, etc have excellent undergraduate business programs. It might be called "management" or "finance" or "accounting" but it's still business.

Elite employers on Wall Street and Silicon Valley DO hire from UC (I teach business at a state school that ranks lower than UC in every metric, and many of my students from last year are on Wall Street or Silicon Valley today).

They hire from Miami, but typically only students from the business school.

They don't hire from Xavier, despite Xavier having better programs in the liberal arts.

I'm all for liberal arts programs being funded, but only at the same level as student demand. Most schools I'm familiar with heavily subsidize the liberal arts (aka steal money from other programs) despite low much lower student counts in liberal arts classes.

No, they don't. They teach economics in the social sciences college, but that's as close as any undergraduates at those colleges get to majoring in business. I'll post the link for Chicago and Harvard, but feel free to prove me wrong with the others. I already know the answer.

Harvard Undergraduate Majors
Chicago Undergraduate Majors
 
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RE: University of Cincinnati Expects Record Enrollment in Fall 2017
(07-12-2017 05:26 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:10 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 04:44 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 04:02 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 03:33 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Bolded, is a looming crisis for many private schools, especially if their endowments are small (by the way, the XU endowment is small relative to what they might consider their academic peer group). Sadly, this may be a race to the bottom financially as private school resources are increasingly allocated to subsidize tuition in an effort to compete on a cost basis. St. Joseph's College of Indiana is a cautionary tale in this regard and I believe we'll see many more private schools merging and/or closing in the coming decade as a result.

That's why a recent report on the financial health of private schools in America done by the Commission on Higher Education states that 15%-20% of Private Institutions of Higher Learning are at risk of closure by 2030.

Private schools are the worst. Especially, schools like XU. We have a local school like that called CBU. They cost $35,000 a year for a bare-bones education. Memphis has better students, deeper ties in with the local business community, and way cheaper. But somehow they convince kids to sign up for that scheme. It's sad really. The school was a two year school before the 1960s. The worst part is that their campus is right next to our Football stadium.

I can't wait for them to go bankrupt. Their undergraduate enrollment dropped from 1800 to 1200 from like 2002 - 2013. They are lucky they have some rich alumni who will keep the school up for a bit. And they are attempting to shift to a more diverse enrollment base since their old target demographic of kids want to attend SEC schools now.

And they are the smuggest tools in the world. But my experience with XU fans on Reddit, you guys might have it worst.

BTW, your report on the financial health of private schools is from Moody's. [1] Memphis benefited when Lambuth went under in 2010. We got a whole new campus in Jackson, TN. 02-13-banana

[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...riple-2017

My last post, I don't mean to spam your forum. A big indicator of the health of private schools is the discount rate they apply to tuition. The average rate for private schools hit a historic high of 49.1% in 2016. [1] That chart is telling.

[1] - http://www.nacubo.org/About_NACUBO/Press...Again.html

By all means, keep it coming...there are a few higher education professionals on here and we enjoy getting into the nitty gritty.

Good catch on the FH study, the report I read from The CHE cited the Moody's report and I didn't translate. I'm currently in an administrative role at the University of Toledo, and we are definitely benefiting from Lourdes University's decline in the same way Memphis did from Lamb's.

That discount rate is even higher in Ohio...last information we were given from the ODE oversight committee reported a little over 55%, and that was just on voluntary submissions from the almost 70 private schools in Ohio, so you and I both know that number is likely quite a bit higher. It's my opinion that private education is one of the biggest reasons for the downward trajectory of the perception of higher education from the recent Pew surveys (I'll link when I'm off mobile). While public education does cost an exorbitant amount of money, private schools are driving the bus when it comes to the student loan bubble that's coming closer and closer to popping our economy. Combining that with an increased level of competition in higher education is forcing the public schools to drive up their own discount rates, thus affecting public budgets and decreasing the instructional quality they can provide to students due to a lack of financial support.

It just keeps coming. Wentworth Military Academy and College [1]

And this. [2]

Quote:The number of colleges and universities eligible to award federal financial aid dropped by 5.6 percent in 2016-17. The vast majority of disappearing institutions were for-profit colleges, but more than 30 private nonprofits were among them.


[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktake...ay-faculty
[2] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017...ic-turmoil
 
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(07-18-2017 04:23 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:26 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:10 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 04:44 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 04:02 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  That's why a recent report on the financial health of private schools in America done by the Commission on Higher Education states that 15%-20% of Private Institutions of Higher Learning are at risk of closure by 2030.

Private schools are the worst. Especially, schools like XU. We have a local school like that called CBU. They cost $35,000 a year for a bare-bones education. Memphis has better students, deeper ties in with the local business community, and way cheaper. But somehow they convince kids to sign up for that scheme. It's sad really. The school was a two year school before the 1960s. The worst part is that their campus is right next to our Football stadium.

I can't wait for them to go bankrupt. Their undergraduate enrollment dropped from 1800 to 1200 from like 2002 - 2013. They are lucky they have some rich alumni who will keep the school up for a bit. And they are attempting to shift to a more diverse enrollment base since their old target demographic of kids want to attend SEC schools now.

And they are the smuggest tools in the world. But my experience with XU fans on Reddit, you guys might have it worst.

BTW, your report on the financial health of private schools is from Moody's. [1] Memphis benefited when Lambuth went under in 2010. We got a whole new campus in Jackson, TN. 02-13-banana

[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...riple-2017

My last post, I don't mean to spam your forum. A big indicator of the health of private schools is the discount rate they apply to tuition. The average rate for private schools hit a historic high of 49.1% in 2016. [1] That chart is telling.

[1] - http://www.nacubo.org/About_NACUBO/Press...Again.html

By all means, keep it coming...there are a few higher education professionals on here and we enjoy getting into the nitty gritty.

Good catch on the FH study, the report I read from The CHE cited the Moody's report and I didn't translate. I'm currently in an administrative role at the University of Toledo, and we are definitely benefiting from Lourdes University's decline in the same way Memphis did from Lamb's.

That discount rate is even higher in Ohio...last information we were given from the ODE oversight committee reported a little over 55%, and that was just on voluntary submissions from the almost 70 private schools in Ohio, so you and I both know that number is likely quite a bit higher. It's my opinion that private education is one of the biggest reasons for the downward trajectory of the perception of higher education from the recent Pew surveys (I'll link when I'm off mobile). While public education does cost an exorbitant amount of money, private schools are driving the bus when it comes to the student loan bubble that's coming closer and closer to popping our economy. Combining that with an increased level of competition in higher education is forcing the public schools to drive up their own discount rates, thus affecting public budgets and decreasing the instructional quality they can provide to students due to a lack of financial support.

It just keeps coming. Wentworth Military Academy and College [1]

And this. [2]

Quote:The number of colleges and universities eligible to award federal financial aid dropped by 5.6 percent in 2016-17. The vast majority of disappearing institutions were for-profit colleges, but more than 30 private nonprofits were among them.


[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktake...ay-faculty
[2] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017...ic-turmoil

This might be the best. 28K a year job. Requires PHD. [1]

I just can't.

[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017...l-workload
 
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RE: University of Cincinnati Expects Record Enrollment in Fall 2017
(07-18-2017 04:27 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(07-18-2017 04:23 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:26 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:10 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 04:44 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  Private schools are the worst. Especially, schools like XU. We have a local school like that called CBU. They cost $35,000 a year for a bare-bones education. Memphis has better students, deeper ties in with the local business community, and way cheaper. But somehow they convince kids to sign up for that scheme. It's sad really. The school was a two year school before the 1960s. The worst part is that their campus is right next to our Football stadium.

I can't wait for them to go bankrupt. Their undergraduate enrollment dropped from 1800 to 1200 from like 2002 - 2013. They are lucky they have some rich alumni who will keep the school up for a bit. And they are attempting to shift to a more diverse enrollment base since their old target demographic of kids want to attend SEC schools now.

And they are the smuggest tools in the world. But my experience with XU fans on Reddit, you guys might have it worst.

BTW, your report on the financial health of private schools is from Moody's. [1] Memphis benefited when Lambuth went under in 2010. We got a whole new campus in Jackson, TN. 02-13-banana

[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...riple-2017

My last post, I don't mean to spam your forum. A big indicator of the health of private schools is the discount rate they apply to tuition. The average rate for private schools hit a historic high of 49.1% in 2016. [1] That chart is telling.

[1] - http://www.nacubo.org/About_NACUBO/Press...Again.html

By all means, keep it coming...there are a few higher education professionals on here and we enjoy getting into the nitty gritty.

Good catch on the FH study, the report I read from The CHE cited the Moody's report and I didn't translate. I'm currently in an administrative role at the University of Toledo, and we are definitely benefiting from Lourdes University's decline in the same way Memphis did from Lamb's.

That discount rate is even higher in Ohio...last information we were given from the ODE oversight committee reported a little over 55%, and that was just on voluntary submissions from the almost 70 private schools in Ohio, so you and I both know that number is likely quite a bit higher. It's my opinion that private education is one of the biggest reasons for the downward trajectory of the perception of higher education from the recent Pew surveys (I'll link when I'm off mobile). While public education does cost an exorbitant amount of money, private schools are driving the bus when it comes to the student loan bubble that's coming closer and closer to popping our economy. Combining that with an increased level of competition in higher education is forcing the public schools to drive up their own discount rates, thus affecting public budgets and decreasing the instructional quality they can provide to students due to a lack of financial support.

It just keeps coming. Wentworth Military Academy and College [1]

And this. [2]

Quote:The number of colleges and universities eligible to award federal financial aid dropped by 5.6 percent in 2016-17. The vast majority of disappearing institutions were for-profit colleges, but more than 30 private nonprofits were among them.


[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktake...ay-faculty
[2] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017...ic-turmoil

This might be the best. 28K a year job. Requires PHD. [1]

I just can't.

[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017...l-workload

It just doesn't stop. [1]

Quote:There are 2.4 million fewer college students in the United States than there were just six years ago, meaning institutions have to work much harder to fill seats.

Quote:But there’s a limit to how many students some colleges want to recruit from the South and West, where the enrollment drop is less pronounced. More of them than ever are nonwhite and low-income. “That puts particular challenges on institutions that have relied on students who come from more advantaged families, who have parents who went to college, and who can afford more of the tuition bill without big discounts,” said Doug Shapiro, executive director of the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center.

[1] - http://hechingerreport.org/universities-...nrollment/
 
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(07-12-2017 12:37 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  So are you among those who think universities should stop teaching things like History or Philosophy or Astronomy? Just become purely utilitarian trade schools turning out trained, but not educated, worker bees for corporate America? The job of a research university is to educate students and create new knowledge. And while that doesn't need to be incompatible with some form of training, that shouldn't negate the primary mission. If somebody is uncomfortable with that mission then send your kids to a community college or trade school like DeVry.

Women's studies are not educational, they're political.
Swahili classes are not educational, anymore than pig latin classes would be educational. The obscure sections of anthropology and sociology are not educational, they're purely ideological. When you make that part of the curriculum, you might as be having people watch Joel Osteen's sermons on Sunday mornings. It's the same ****.
As far as "corporate America" goes, post modernism benefits corporations more than any other ideology. If universities, the sleazeballs that they are, stop charging $500 for an oceanography textbook that has the same information I can find in an Ebook for 99 cents, that you can only sell back for a fraction of the cost; I'll happily pretend they're not bloodsucking hellspawn. Til then, F'em. Human garbage.

As far as the end of that comment goes, DeVry doesn't hold the keys to the doors other universities do. That's like holding someone's head under water and saying "But you don't have to breathe!"
Sorry, but universities aren't charity cases and they don't deserve our pity. People are paying you tens of thousands individually and the tax payer is being forced to pay for you through grants and state money allocated to you on the assumption that you'll produce functioning useful adults. Do your ******* jobs or get lost.
Beyond corrupting education, I think these classes and this ideology have subverted natural selection. Look at what they do to people. They go from being human, to being a bunch of mutant, hairless, genderless, tadpole-people. Bizarre creatures, who have no viable knowledge and the dress sense to think that it's okay wear garb that looks like an emo version of Waldo(from "Where's Waldo?") as such

[Image: maxresdefault.jpg]

[Image: smuggly.JPG]

[Image: sjwicon1.jpg?w=500&h=333]

[Image: rN9bCPD.jpg]




^This **** up there, yeah. That's not natural. And babyboomers given that you've raised this(my) generation, all I can say is you ****** up somewhere down the line. I don't know where exactly, if it was the relativism, the placating the egos of minorities to make yourselves feel less guilty about the bigotry of your parents or what... maybe you just told millennials they were special too many times... but this is screwy. These people are going out into the workplace. That's horrifying. Nobody that devoid of intellectual curiosity and that emotionally crippled should be in charge of anything.
 
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(07-18-2017 05:57 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:37 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  So are you among those who think universities should stop teaching things like History or Philosophy or Astronomy? Just become purely utilitarian trade schools turning out trained, but not educated, worker bees for corporate America? The job of a research university is to educate students and create new knowledge. And while that doesn't need to be incompatible with some form of training, that shouldn't negate the primary mission. If somebody is uncomfortable with that mission then send your kids to a community college or trade school like DeVry.

Women's studies are not educational, they're political.
Swahili classes are not educational, anymore than pig latin classes would be educational. The obscure sections of anthropology and sociology are not educational, they're purely ideological. When you make that part of the curriculum, you might as be having people watch Joel Osteen's sermons on Sunday mornings. It's the same ****.
As far as "corporate America" goes, post modernism benefits corporations more than any other ideology. If universities, the sleazeballs that they are, stop charging $500 for an oceanography textbook that has the same information I can find in an Ebook for 99 cents, that you can only sell back for a fraction of the cost; I'll happily pretend they're not bloodsucking hellspawn. Til then, F'em. Human garbage.

As far as the end of that comment goes, DeVry doesn't hold the keys to the doors other universities do. That's like holding someone's head under water and saying "But you don't have to breathe!"
Sorry, but universities aren't charity cases and they don't deserve our pity. People are paying you tens of thousands individually and the tax payer is being forced to pay for you through grants and state money allocated to you on the assumption that you'll produce functioning useful adults. Do your ******* jobs or get lost.
Beyond corrupting education, I think these classes and this ideology have subverted natural selection. Look at what they do to people. They go from being human, to being a bunch of mutant, hairless, genderless, tadpole-people. Bizarre creatures, who have no viable knowledge and the dress sense to think that it's okay wear garb that looks like an emo version of Waldo(from "Where's Waldo?") as such

[Image: maxresdefault.jpg]

[Image: smuggly.JPG]

[Image: sjwicon1.jpg?w=500&h=333]

[Image: rN9bCPD.jpg]




^This **** up there, yeah. That's not natural. And babyboomers given that you've raised this(my) generation, all I can say is you ****** up somewhere down the line. I don't know where exactly, if it was the relativism, the placating the egos of minorities to make yourselves feel less guilty about the bigotry of your parents or what... maybe you just told millennials they were special too many times... but this is screwy. These people are going out into the workplace. That's horrifying. Nobody that devoid of intellectual curiosity and that emotionally crippled should be in charge of anything.

Do us all a favor and just delete this garbage. I'm sorry to see someone so focused on hatred of others.
 
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(07-18-2017 05:57 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:37 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  So are you among those who think universities should stop teaching things like History or Philosophy or Astronomy? Just become purely utilitarian trade schools turning out trained, but not educated, worker bees for corporate America? The job of a research university is to educate students and create new knowledge. And while that doesn't need to be incompatible with some form of training, that shouldn't negate the primary mission. If somebody is uncomfortable with that mission then send your kids to a community college or trade school like DeVry.

Women's studies are not educational, they're political.
Swahili classes are not educational, anymore than pig latin classes would be educational. The obscure sections of anthropology and sociology are not educational, they're purely ideological. When you make that part of the curriculum, you might as be having people watch Joel Osteen's sermons on Sunday mornings. It's the same ****.
As far as "corporate America" goes, post modernism benefits corporations more than any other ideology. If universities, the sleazeballs that they are, stop charging $500 for an oceanography textbook that has the same information I can find in an Ebook for 99 cents, that you can only sell back for a fraction of the cost; I'll happily pretend they're not bloodsucking hellspawn. Til then, F'em. Human garbage.

As far as the end of that comment goes, DeVry doesn't hold the keys to the doors other universities do. That's like holding someone's head under water and saying "But you don't have to breathe!"
Sorry, but universities aren't charity cases and they don't deserve our pity. People are paying you tens of thousands individually and the tax payer is being forced to pay for you through grants and state money allocated to you on the assumption that you'll produce functioning useful adults. Do your ******* jobs or get lost.
Beyond corrupting education, I think these classes and this ideology have subverted natural selection. Look at what they do to people. They go from being human, to being a bunch of mutant, hairless, genderless, tadpole-people. Bizarre creatures, who have no viable knowledge and the dress sense to think that it's okay wear garb that looks like an emo version of Waldo(from "Where's Waldo?") as such

[Image: maxresdefault.jpg]

[Image: smuggly.JPG]

[Image: sjwicon1.jpg?w=500&h=333]

[Image: rN9bCPD.jpg]




^This **** up there, yeah. That's not natural. And babyboomers given that you've raised this(my) generation, all I can say is you ****** up somewhere down the line. I don't know where exactly, if it was the relativism, the placating the egos of minorities to make yourselves feel less guilty about the bigotry of your parents or what... maybe you just told millennials they were special too many times... but this is screwy. These people are going out into the workplace. That's horrifying. Nobody that devoid of intellectual curiosity and that emotionally crippled should be in charge of anything.

Damn kids were on your law again today apparently.

This was by far the stupidest effing post on this board in quite a while. Congratulations
 
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In response to recluse, why is Swahili equivalent to "pig Latin?"

A quick search tells me 2-5m speak the language natively, and 135M as a second language.
 
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(07-18-2017 06:53 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  In response to recluse, why is Swahili equivalent to "pig Latin?"

A quick search tells me 2-5m speak the language natively, and 135M as a second language.

All language is an amalgamation/shared history of a particular ethnic group. Swahili and pig latin both rely heavily upon other languages. Swahili is basically just a poor man's Arabic. Bantu, which is a proto-language/tongue(the first of a particular language tree) is the language those people initially spoke. Another parallel from South Africa, would be Afrikaans, which is just a dumbed down version of Dutch. None are really whole languages unto themselves. They don't merely borrow a few words, their sentence structures, pronunciations and uses are basically the same as that of their colonizers.
However I said Swahili classes were equivalent to pig latin classes for another reason. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/10/opinio...ahili.html
http://theblacksheeponline.com/wisconsin...-this-fall


I have no problem with people wanting to learn a new language, even if it is one no one really cares about save for someone thousands of miles away. My issue is more the lack of oversight regarding certain classes.
 
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