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RE: University of Cincinnati Expects Record Enrollment in Fall 2017
(06-15-2017 02:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  There are many 75th-85th percentile students (26-30 ACT) who are being denied entry to OSU's main campus who are heading to the other highly reputed STEM institutions (Cincinnati and Toledo), which is a win for them, and UC will continue to build on that momentum by pushing further into the upper-echelon districts throughout the state (Olentangy, Bexley, Upper Arlington, Dublin, Hilliard, Worthington, Centerville, Oakwood, Western Cuyahoga more specifically Westlake/Brecksville/Broadview/Lakewood/Bay Village/Medina, Findlay, Ottawa Hills, Sylvania, Perrysburg and Anthony Wayne SDs).

I would hope that UC is capitalizing on this to a much greater degree than Toledo. I really don't see them as peers in any way other than having been former metropolitan universities. Now, I've been critical of UC's overemphasis on the med school and engineering at the expense of building up stronger departments in the hard sciences, humanities and social sciences, but no way are UC and UT peer research institutions. CMUP doesn't rank them in the top 50 for any of 9 metrics when looking at only public universities; whereas UC ranks in the top 25 for 2 metrics and top 50 for another 5 and tied for 29th among all public universities.

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RE: University of Cincinnati Expects Record Enrollment in Fall 2017
(06-15-2017 04:54 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
(06-15-2017 02:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  There are many 75th-85th percentile students (26-30 ACT) who are being denied entry to OSU's main campus who are heading to the other highly reputed STEM institutions (Cincinnati and Toledo), which is a win for them, and UC will continue to build on that momentum by pushing further into the upper-echelon districts throughout the state (Olentangy, Bexley, Upper Arlington, Dublin, Hilliard, Worthington, Centerville, Oakwood, Western Cuyahoga more specifically Westlake/Brecksville/Broadview/Lakewood/Bay Village/Medina, Findlay, Ottawa Hills, Sylvania, Perrysburg and Anthony Wayne SDs).

I would hope that UC is capitalizing on this to a much greater degree than Toledo. I really don't see them as peers in any way other than having been former metropolitan universities. Now, I've been critical of UC's overemphasis on the med school and engineering at the expense of building up stronger departments in the hard sciences, humanities and social sciences, but no way are UC and UT peer research institutions. CMUP doesn't rank them in the top 50 for any of 9 metrics when looking at only public universities; whereas UC ranks in the top 25 for 2 metrics and top 50 for another 5 and tied for 29th among all public universities.

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Oh by no way are they peer institutions, they are simply the two who seem to be targeting that population strategically at this point while also having the degree programs to offer most of those students (STEM) to much high degree than the other state institutions.
 
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Is not it obviously? FCC correlation to enrollment.
 
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RE: University of Cincinnati Expects Record Enrollment in Fall 2017
The Center For Measuring University Performance report is pretty interesting for those interested in UC's candidacy for AAU membership. It's a very good map for gauging how UC stands versus the lower end of the public (and private if you want) AAU schools as well as where we stand against other schools seeking an invite. For instance, there's no way that the two SUNYs (Buffalo and Stony Brook) should be in and UC left out. OTOH, it looks like Utah ,and possibly NC State, are currently stronger candidates for an invite than UC. And it's shocking that it took GaTech so long to get in.

Private and Public universities combined on page 12, and publics separated out by themselves on p 20. CMUP Report
 
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Ohio State was ranked number one partly because its alumni are “fiercely supportive of the Buckeyes,”???????
 
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(07-12-2017 11:33 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Ohio State was ranked number one partly because its alumni are “fiercely supportive of the Buckeyes,”???????

They're not ranked number one. They're in a group of ten public universities that make the top 25 in all 9 metrics. That group is listed alphabetically, so OSU ended up on top. If you break it down a little, such as separating top 10 from top 25, OSU drops a bit.

Michigan and UCLA are top 10 in all 9 metrics
Berkeley in 7 (only because they don't have med school research dollars)
North Carolina in 6
OSU, Wisconsin and Minnesota in 5
Texas in 4
Illinois in 3
Florida in 1

EDIT: I see you were talking about the Money magazine ranking rather than the MUP rankings. My mistake.
 
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(07-12-2017 11:28 AM)Fubar Wrote:  Looks like we're killing it?

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/201...469834001/

The article has a negative slant too it (UC being ranked #22). If you look at the list, UC is actually #3 in terms of public institutions in the state. All the ones in between are small privates-- some of which I have serious questions as to why/how they rated higher than us (Marietta College, Cedarville, Malone College -- really?).
 
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UC is the 22nd best school in Ohio?? Xavier is 13th!? GTFOH. This is the most absurd list of schools I've ever seen.

How about we factor in the Yelp rating of the closest Burger King? Or how easy it is to score some cocaine on Thursday? It would be just as helpful as this toilet paper.
 
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RE: University of Cincinnati Expects Record Enrollment in Fall 2017
Universities are at a cross roads... They need to get back to preparing students for a career and drop the social engineering...
Days of record enrollment may be coming to an end.......

*A new Pew Research Center survey found 58 percent of right-leaning Americans think colleges and universities are harming the country—up 13 percent from last year.
 
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