(02-14-2017 11:53 AM)82hawk Wrote: There is no guarantee that their replacements can replicate their success, and the can't coach forever.
There is no guarantee, but they're both top 4 programs all-time. Carolina's success pre-dates Dean Smith, as does Duke's with Coach K. You can't point to one successful era of NCSU basketball and reach the conclusion that it is an attractive job and then ignore the superior history of UNC and Duke. The greatest indicator of future success is past results.
The difference between Carolina and Duke, and NCSU is that they can reach out to essentially any coach they like and land the coach they want. State has been turned down by Rick Barnes, John Calipari, John Brady,John Beilein, Steve Lavin (he wasn't even in coaching at the time and later accepted a job at SJU), Shaka Smart Gregg Marshall and Sean Miller in recent history.
(02-14-2017 12:49 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote: At some point State will turn this around and become a relevant player again at the national level.
Based on what?
(02-14-2017 12:49 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote: The naysayers are mostly people who don't know anything about NCSU other than what they read on a board or hear on ESPN radio.
Consider me a naysayer. What have I said that is factually incorrect? Did they, or did they not run Sendek out of town because incessant criticism by Wolfpack fans who wanted a more charismatic coach who could consistently beat Duke and North Carolina? Did he, or did he not inherit an awful mess from Robinson? Sendek took NCSU to five consecutive NCAA tournaments, but beating Carolina and Duke was always going to be his measuring stick.
I know you confuse fact and opinion often, but there are undeniable facts about NCSU that don't suggest it's a "great job". They haven't won a conference title in basketball since 1989, and since that year, they have suffered at least 10 losses in EVERY season. You can't look back at 1974 and say "that's who we are" when the past 30 years suggest quite the opposite.
"In coaching circles, the N.C. State job was viewed as one with pitfalls, not the least of which was regular comparisons to Duke and Carolina."
The past two coaching searches support everything I've said.
(02-14-2017 12:49 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote: Not a State fan but I do have respect for the school and the history they have in basketball.
What do you respect most about NCSU basketball?