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RE: 2017 FB Roster Notes
I am. My drunk GF at the time was sure it was something else though!
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(03-02-2017 07:09 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(03-02-2017 06:42 PM)94computerguy Wrote:  
(02-04-2017 11:59 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Just checked the stats for 2005. That team outscored its opponents by an average of 35 to 15. Its 4 losses were by 6,4,3,and 3 points. Agonizing.
Especially painful were the losses to Coastal Carolina on a miracle catch and to UMass in the infamous Mud swamp game.

THIS is why I hated MM's "all defense and just enough offense to win" approach. You let everyone hang around with a 10-7 score and if the other team gets a lucky bounce late in the game, you're SOL. Just keep at 'em, and if you do it right, you're up 34-14 by the 4th.

One of those 4 losses in 05' was @ UMASS was 10-7 in that raining mud fest (had been raining most of the week up there. I think Umass installed turf the next season). The offense in 05' avg 35 ppg, and about 38 ppg in the other 10 games outside the UMass mud fest. I don't know what the problem was in 05', but it wasn't ""all defense and just enough offense to win" approach".

Yeah, and our only TD was from The D as Akeem Jordan scored on a takeaway.

This is the game where Mickey called time out to ice their kicker, who hadn't made FGs all year and gave the kicker and holder time to tamp stomp the mud to allow for a better placement resulting in a line drive howitzer type kick that went right through the uprights.

The reason the porta-johns were overflowing was that the bathroom building in the end zone was under about a foot of water and inaccessible.
03-03-2017 06:51 AM
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Nope. Talking about a porta John in the lot where we tailgated.
03-03-2017 08:31 AM
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(02-04-2017 10:54 AM)DooX Wrote:  One other note. The coach listing for 2017 is the same as 2016. I thought I read somewhere that the contracts for assistant coaches (minus Trott) were all yearly and due for renewal late Jan / early Feb.

It looks like we have our first coaching staff casualty. Jamal Powell, who was the OL coach, is no longer listed. Bryan Stinespring, who was the TE coach is now listed as the OL coach. Bryan also retains the run-game coordinator role he had before.
03-16-2017 11:34 PM
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Powell did not receive a raise like many of the other assistance at the end of the season. I always felt it was strange he did not get a small pay bump similar to his co workers. After not receiving a raise I am not surprised is going elsewhere.
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I believe Powell was one of the few coaches retained from the Everett Withers era.
03-17-2017 07:18 AM
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(03-17-2017 07:18 AM)Potomac Wrote:  I believe Powell was one of the few coaches retained from the Everett Withers era.

Correct. Him and Bowers were the only ones retained from the Withers staff
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I had forgotten about the raises, but yeah, I'm sure that factored into him leaving (assuming it was voluntary).

If I remember right, Bowers had actually been fired by Withers after the 2nd season and had gone out to California or something. Then when Withers jumped Bourne got Bowers to come back and guide the program during the coaching search with the promise of a job for at least one season. Dude is a former player and bleeds purple.

Pete Johnson has been around for ages, of course. Not a coach, but he is listed with the staff.
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Madia just tweeted he was told Powell left of his own accord.
03-17-2017 09:23 AM
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Not sure how after what he did last year the OL coach did not receive a raise like everyone else, kind of a slap in the face imo.

Championships, as we saw last year, are won in the trenches and I thought he did a remarkable job for us, sorry to see him go.
03-17-2017 09:59 AM
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(03-17-2017 09:59 AM)Dadgum Wrote:  Not sure how after what he did last year the OL coach did not receive a raise like everyone else, kind of a slap in the face imo.

Championships, as we saw last year, are won in the trenches and I thought he did a remarkable job for us, sorry to see him go.

There has to be a reason he didn't get a raise. Houston is a stand up guy and based on his actions gives credit where credit is due. Purely speculation, but I only see three reasons he may not have gotten a pay raise:
1) perhaps he wasn't as pivotal to the success of the O-Line as we thought.
2) perhaps attitude/conflicts/teaching style didn't jive with Houston and may have been a way to encourage him to be better.
3) Houston knew he was leaving

Normally I'd be a bit concerned, but Houston knows what he's doing. The O-line will be fine.
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(02-04-2017 09:10 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  
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(02-03-2017 10:49 PM)bjk3047 Wrote:  It'd be ballsy, but I'd like to see Cole redshirted unless Schor went down with an injury that would necessitate a non-Schor start.

We have Hunter Etheridge and Mack Waldman (both redshirt juniors) that I believe will go in for mop up duty to try to preserve a redshirt for Cole. However, it could be that Houston wants to get Cole more game experience to be ready to take over the position in 2018.

Why "preserve" a redshirt for Cole? I think the recruitment of Gage Moloney makes it clear he is the Dukes QB of the future and should be a redshirt this upcoming season.

Schor graduates. Johnson is a JR and Moloney is only a R-FR. Keep pushing the pipeline along.

I think that it all comes down to what happens in August when Houston sees Cole and Gage Moloney side-by-side. If Moloney is as good as advertised, I don't see a reason to RS Cole. Let's get him some mop-up duty to keep him sharp for the possibility that Schor misses some games.

However, if Moloney isn't as good as advertised, or if it appears that he's good but needs some significant development time, I think it behooves us to RS Cole so that he has 3 potential years as starter.
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(03-16-2017 11:34 PM)DooX Wrote:  
(02-04-2017 10:54 AM)DooX Wrote:  One other note. The coach listing for 2017 is the same as 2016. I thought I read somewhere that the contracts for assistant coaches (minus Trott) were all yearly and due for renewal late Jan / early Feb.

It looks like we have our first coaching staff casualty. Jamal Powell, who was the OL coach, is no longer listed. Bryan Stinespring, who was the TE coach is now listed as the OL coach. Bryan also retains the run-game coordinator role he had before.

This will be a good move. A friend of mine played TE under Stinespring at VT and he told me this past summer that Stinespring's real passion is offensive line, specifically the tackle position.
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(03-17-2017 10:17 AM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  
(03-16-2017 11:34 PM)DooX Wrote:  
(02-04-2017 10:54 AM)DooX Wrote:  One other note. The coach listing for 2017 is the same as 2016. I thought I read somewhere that the contracts for assistant coaches (minus Trott) were all yearly and due for renewal late Jan / early Feb.

It looks like we have our first coaching staff casualty. Jamal Powell, who was the OL coach, is no longer listed. Bryan Stinespring, who was the TE coach is now listed as the OL coach. Bryan also retains the run-game coordinator role he had before.

This will be a good move. A friend of mine played TE under Stinespring at VT and he told me this past summer that Stinespring's real passion is offensive line, specifically the tackle position.

Yeah, he coached the OL for 8 seasons (98'-05') for VT. From his JMU bio:
"...During his time with the offensive line, Stinespring coached Jake Grove to the 2003 Rimington Trophy as the center became just the third consensus All-American in program history. He was also the first center taken in the 2004 NFL Draft.

After taking over the line in 1998, he helped send two linemen, Derek Smith and Dwight Vick, on to the NFL. The line helped the Hokies set new rushing benchmarks in the BIG EAST during the 1999 and 2000 seasons as Tech advanced to the national title game during the 1999 season. In 2002, the line cleared the way for Lee Suggs and Kevin Jones, who combined for over 2,100 rushing yards...."
http://jmusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1252&path=football

So there's 1 coaching vacancy now at TE? Have a 1st team All CAA and likely pre season All American returning at TE in Kloosterman..
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Greg Madia's Field Notes - 3.19.17 article says Powell is heading to Lamar University in Texas. The connection is that the new Lamar HC, Mike Schultz, was an assistant at TCU when Powell was a player. He will be their OL coach.

Quotes from Coach Houston suggest the move is family related. Houston also says we had the most overqualified TE coach in Stinespring, who is one of the top OL coaches in the country. TE coaching position will be filled at some point.

One minor roster note: D'Angelo Amos (rFr. S) had his number changed to 24 from 27, which was shared with LB Pat Kagel. I think he probably wanted to honor BSKB 24 after he heard he was sick.
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Sounds kind of like this was the plan all along. Maintain continuity with a coach from the Withers crew in Powell, eventually get the OL job over to Stinespring. Sure looks convenient if not.

Also, I'm late to this thread as usual...
(03-02-2017 08:20 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Me & ThtsRspct & Bjk drove up to that UMass game. Crazy times. We saw a portajohn literally overflow because of the rain.

Talk about burying the lede. Forget the portajohn, Hyper had a confrontation with the Gorton's Fisherman.
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It really was the fish sticks guy!
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(03-20-2017 08:14 AM)bjk3047 Wrote:  Sounds kind of like this was the plan all along. Maintain continuity with a coach from the Withers crew in Powell, eventually get the OL job over to Stinespring. Sure looks convenient if not.

Totally agree. The lack of raise tells you all you need to know, right there.

Also, with all of the raises, shifting more responsibility to Stinespring was a way reduce some of the 2017-2018 cost.

I think we all hope Houston is around for a very long time, but I also think we're also setting Stinespring up to be head coach should Houston move on at some point in the next 5 years. Giving him increased responsibility (not just a position move) is somewhat telling, to me.
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If any of you want to apply for the assistant football coach position, here's the ad for it... https://joblink.jmu.edu/applicants/jsp/s...0105642181

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I think the o coordinator will be the next head coach if Houston leaves. Stinnie will be the o coordinator. A position he held at VT.
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