So ISU get to be on an island now?

(02-17-2016 12:40 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 07:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 07:12 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 06:08 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Your East isn't any better.

Didn't say it was better - just more likely; the legacy Big 12 teams would prefer to play each other each year.

I would say this is mostly true. I know the big 8 teams would probably want to play each other (all three of us). They may try to even out the texas schools though.

"All 3 of us from big 8" Actually 5 right? ISU, KU, KSU, OU and OSU were big 8 teams til the end. UT, TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech from the SWC and of course " the island" none of the other 9 want to play. Cheers!

I most of read it wrong, I thought OU and KU were out of the conference the poster proposed. Currently yes there is 5 right now.

(02-17-2016 12:50 AM)Erictelevision Wrote:  So ISU get to be on an island now?

The last thing we want

Not that I think any of this sh!t is going down ,but why wouldn't Texas be the first get for the B1G. I would think that would be the fist choice for Texas as well.

(02-17-2016 08:25 AM)FUB Wrote:  Not that I think any of this sh!t is going down ,but why wouldn't Texas be the first get for the B1G. I would think that would be the fist choice for Texas as well.

The big ten would never allow Texas to have the LHN and Texas will never give it up.

Plus what sense does Austin to New Brunswick make?!

(02-16-2016 08:02 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Here is what is going to happen:

Texas and Oklahoma State to SEC.
Kansas and Oklahoma to Big 10.
Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas State, TCU to PAC
West Virginia and Iowa State to the American.

I agree with the first two parts. And disagree with the last two.

It is more likely that TT, Baylor, Kansas State, TCU, WV and Iowa State take four best AAC teams to Big 12 and keep the brand. Right now I will say Cincinnati, UConn, Memphis and Houston are going to Big 12. If they want to expand to 12 teams, then add Navy and Temple as well.

North:

UConn
Temple
Cincinnati
Iowa State
West Virginia
Navy


South:

Memphis
Kansas State
Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

(02-16-2016 08:02 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Here is what is going to happen:

Texas and Oklahoma State to SEC.
Kansas and Oklahoma to Big 10.
Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas State, TCU to MWC
West Virginia and Iowa State to the American.

FiFO

(02-17-2016 12:43 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 08:02 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Here is what is going to happen:

Texas and Oklahoma State to SEC.
Kansas and Oklahoma to Big 10.
Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas State, TCU to PAC
West Virginia and Iowa State to the American.

Kansas St will never be in the PAC. The ACC would pick up ISU and WV. The league needs better football teams in the middle. WV is an instant top 3 ACC team, ISU is the 8th best out of the 16. Cheers!

ISU would not be left on an island in the ACC. At that point, the ACC would just grab Cincy or UConn and call it done.

I get the ACC wanting UCONN, but ISU makes no sense to me. Cincy I KINDA see, but prefer other ideas. (I prefer Cincy to the B1G)

(02-18-2016 02:37 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  I get the ACC wanting UCONN, but ISU makes no sense to me. Cincy I KINDA see, but prefer other ideas. (I prefer Cincy to the B1G)

Iowa State makes no sense to the Big XII, much less the ACC. What's next: Hawaii?

Cincinnati would at least connect Kentucky to Pennsylvania, thus reuniting the ACC geographically. Plus, Ohio would be a nice addition for the ACC footprint.

On the other hand, I don't think the Buckeyes want to share the state, so Big Ten invite isn't coming for the Bearcats, IMO. If the Big Ten takes another AAC team it'll be UConn, IMO.

Mark: Cincy being a geographic bridge makes sense. Just wish conference commissioners would tell teams to pound sand, that they're (commissioners) are acting "in the best interest" of student-athletes and fans.

(02-18-2016 02:44 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 02:37 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  I get the ACC wanting UCONN, but ISU makes no sense to me. Cincy I KINDA see, but prefer other ideas. (I prefer Cincy to the B1G)

Iowa State makes no sense to the Big XII, much less the ACC. What's next: Hawaii?

Cincinnati would at least connect Kentucky to Pennsylvania, thus reuniting the ACC geographically. Plus, Ohio would be a nice addition for the ACC footprint.

On the other hand, I don't think the Buckeyes want to share the state, so Big Ten invite isn't coming for the Bearcats, IMO. If the Big Ten takes another AAC team it'll be UConn, IMO.

well we were a founding memeber of the big 8, but all the schools around us has left. If anything we fit the best in the B1G culturally, but it would be extremely unlikely we would make it in.

(02-17-2016 12:43 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 08:02 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Here is what is going to happen:

Texas and Oklahoma State to SEC.
Kansas and Oklahoma to Big 10.
Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas State, TCU to PAC
West Virginia and Iowa State to the American.

Kansas St will never be in the PAC. The ACC would pick up ISU and WV. The league needs better football teams in the middle. WV is an instant top 3 ACC team, ISU is the 8th best out of the 16. Cheers!

Yep, after Clemson, FSU, Louisville, Miami, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, UNC, WV would be a top 3 ACC team out of the teams left.

(02-11-2016 09:56 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 09:14 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 07:10 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 06:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote:  If and I think it's a big if, Iowa state doesn't get into another P5 it would join the best G5. I don't see Iowa state wanting to downgrade it's good basketball and volleyball to the MAC. Plus it would be a huge culture shock. Most stadiums are around 15,000-30,000. Iowa state has a 61,500 person stadium.

If Iowa state gets left out of a Power conference, Congress will start asking about the NCAA non-profit status. All of a sudden Iowa state will get anew invite to a Power conference. Maybe the BigTen will suddenly decide it's in their best interest to give Iowa St an invite.

Why didn't congress get involved when Rice, SMU and TCU were booted out of the power structure after the SWC break up? I could add Houston but like Ciny, USF and UCONN they were newbies to the power structure and didn't last long in it. Cheers!

As long as Ken Starr is around, I would not try to kick Baylor out of the Power conferences.

Goofus, Iowa's five-member delegation in DC and the preeminent Mr. Starr won't do squat, because nobody's getting "kicked-out" of anything. TX, OK, KS can leave the Big12, and the remaining seven will backfill with the best G5's available. They will still be the mighty Big12, P5 conference extraordinaire.
The death of the Big12 will be a slow, painful slide into the abyss of irrelevance. Many of their major bowl tie-ins will not be renewed. There will be a looooong drought before they are selected for a playoff position. They will never have a conference TV channel. The TV networks will not be able to justify anything but emabarassingly low payouts because of the sparse population. Revenue will fall, recruiting will suffer, coaches will move on.
It's unfair. There are some great athletic programs and some enviable fanbases among the seven orphans. But this is almost certainly their fate.
That is why I think the "seven" should veto any attempts to add G5 schools. They should try to outlast the ACC and pry away any plum P5 programs (Clemson & FSU come to mind), should the ACC fracture. Those schools have the FB clout and TV appeal to buoy a sinking Big 12. Adding G5's won't do that. This is a long shot plan. The SEC could easily nix it, and maybe it won't work at all if Texas has left the conference. But it may be the only path to survival for the abandoned waifs of the Big 12.

I agree that the Big 12 will never die. Even if Texas and OU and Kansas leave...they will backload and be a Texas-centric conference.

The question then becomes what happens to the glorious Sugar Bowl...with its Big 12/SEC tie-in?

(02-18-2016 02:37 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  I get the ACC wanting UCONN, but ISU makes no sense to me. Cincy I KINDA see, but prefer other ideas. (I prefer Cincy to the B1G)

Cincy has ZERO chance of getting in the B1G.

(02-18-2016 03:09 PM)CyclonePower Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 02:44 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 02:37 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  I get the ACC wanting UCONN, but ISU makes no sense to me. Cincy I KINDA see, but prefer other ideas. (I prefer Cincy to the B1G)

Iowa State makes no sense to the Big XII, much less the ACC. What's next: Hawaii?

Cincinnati would at least connect Kentucky to Pennsylvania, thus reuniting the ACC geographically. Plus, Ohio would be a nice addition for the ACC footprint.

On the other hand, I don't think the Buckeyes want to share the state, so Big Ten invite isn't coming for the Bearcats, IMO. If the Big Ten takes another AAC team it'll be UConn, IMO.

well we were a founding memeber of the big 8, but all the schools around us has left. If anything we fit the best in the B1G culturally, but it would be extremely unlikely we would make it in.

I feel for Iowa State - once having nearby Big XII neighbors Colorado, Kansas, Missouri and Nebraska - the school is now isolated.

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If the Big Ten ever adds Kansas - a real possibility, IMO - that would isolate Iowa State even more. It's the ugly side of conference realignment.

ACC - Texas (LHN to ACCN due to ESPN $ issues)and Baylor
SEC - Kansas St. and WVU
Pac-12 - OU, Ok St., TT, and TCU
B1G - Kansas and Iowa St.

Nobody moves up and nobody moves down.

Would Texas ever go independent of the ACC picks up its other sports?