Some of you aren't even smart enough to come in out of the rain.

(11-16-2015 10:31 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Some of you aren't even smart enough to come in out of the rain.

Thank God we have better thans and know it alls like you here to help out us simple folk.

#licensetosteal

(11-16-2015 10:36 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:31 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Some of you aren't even smart enough to come in out of the rain.

Thank God we have better thans and know it alls like you here to help out us simple folk.

#licensetosteal

Someone has to take care of you guys.

#Salty

(11-15-2015 02:20 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  One missed FG.

True, but it NEVER should have come to down to a made or missed FG. With that said, the team is in good hands, but there are some things that occur on defense from scheme/game-planning standpoint that is boggling to the mind.

(11-15-2015 11:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:16 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 01:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  A lot of you know I was very critical of fuente's recruiting his years hear and I knew this would happen.

I would like to see any other coach inherit the mess that Fuente took over and recruit any better. The image of Memphis football had hit rock-bottom. Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a school's reputation has as much to do with recruiting success as salesmanship.

Porter's classes were head and shoulders better than fuente. Porter landed really good classes after 1-11 and 2-10 seasons so please give the tired excuses a break. Porter couldn't coach worth a crap but he could recruit. Fuente is a hellava coach but his recruiting especially on the defensive side of the ball is questionable at best.

And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 02:20 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  One missed FG.

True, but it NEVER should have come to down to that.

Why? Thanks.

(11-16-2015 10:41 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:36 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:31 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Some of you aren't even smart enough to come in out of the rain.

Thank God we have better thans and know it alls like you here to help out us simple folk.

#licensetosteal

Someone has to take care of you guys.

#StillSalty

FYP

(11-16-2015 10:53 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:41 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:36 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:31 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Some of you aren't even smart enough to come in out of the rain.

Thank God we have better thans and know it alls like you here to help out us simple folk.

#licensetosteal

Someone has to take care of you guys.

#StillSalty

FYP

Okie doke

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:16 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 01:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  A lot of you know I was very critical of fuente's recruiting his years hear and I knew this would happen.

I would like to see any other coach inherit the mess that Fuente took over and recruit any better. The image of Memphis football had hit rock-bottom. Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a school's reputation has as much to do with recruiting success as salesmanship.

Porter's classes were head and shoulders better than fuente. Porter landed really good classes after 1-11 and 2-10 seasons so please give the tired excuses a break. Porter couldn't coach worth a crap but he could recruit. Fuente is a hellava coach but his recruiting especially on the defensive side of the ball is questionable at best.

And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

(11-16-2015 11:03 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:16 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 01:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  A lot of you know I was very critical of fuente's recruiting his years hear and I knew this would happen.

I would like to see any other coach inherit the mess that Fuente took over and recruit any better. The image of Memphis football had hit rock-bottom. Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a school's reputation has as much to do with recruiting success as salesmanship.

Porter's classes were head and shoulders better than fuente. Porter landed really good classes after 1-11 and 2-10 seasons so please give the tired excuses a break. Porter couldn't coach worth a crap but he could recruit. Fuente is a hellava coach but his recruiting especially on the defensive side of the ball is questionable at best.

And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 02:20 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  One missed FG.

True, but it NEVER should have come to down to a made or missed FG. With that said, the team is in good hands, but there are some things that occur on defense from scheme/game-planning standpoint that is boggling to the mind.

Let's not forget that we were playing a top 25 team on the road. We all knew that our defense was going to be a liability coming into this season. That being said, we were put in a position to possibly win the game despite the adversity.

(11-16-2015 11:03 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:16 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 01:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  A lot of you know I was very critical of fuente's recruiting his years hear and I knew this would happen.

I would like to see any other coach inherit the mess that Fuente took over and recruit any better. The image of Memphis football had hit rock-bottom. Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a school's reputation has as much to do with recruiting success as salesmanship.

Porter's classes were head and shoulders better than fuente. Porter landed really good classes after 1-11 and 2-10 seasons so please give the tired excuses a break. Porter couldn't coach worth a crap but he could recruit. Fuente is a hellava coach but his recruiting especially on the defensive side of the ball is questionable at best.

And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

An interesting observation....

(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 11:03 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:16 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  I would like to see any other coach inherit the mess that Fuente took over and recruit any better. The image of Memphis football had hit rock-bottom. Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a school's reputation has as much to do with recruiting success as salesmanship.

Porter's classes were head and shoulders better than fuente. Porter landed really good classes after 1-11 and 2-10 seasons so please give the tired excuses a break. Porter couldn't coach worth a crap but he could recruit. Fuente is a hellava coach but his recruiting especially on the defensive side of the ball is questionable at best.

And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

(11-16-2015 12:36 PM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 11:03 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  Porter's classes were head and shoulders better than fuente. Porter landed really good classes after 1-11 and 2-10 seasons so please give the tired excuses a break. Porter couldn't coach worth a crap but he could recruit. Fuente is a hellava coach but his recruiting especially on the defensive side of the ball is questionable at best.

And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

It is possible JF may refuse your recommendation.

(11-16-2015 12:36 PM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 11:03 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  Porter's classes were head and shoulders better than fuente. Porter landed really good classes after 1-11 and 2-10 seasons so please give the tired excuses a break. Porter couldn't coach worth a crap but he could recruit. Fuente is a hellava coach but his recruiting especially on the defensive side of the ball is questionable at best.

And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

We're on track to have the single best season in Memphis Tiger football history and you're recommending that the coach fire a coordinator in the off season?

I think this is proof that some of you have completely lost perspective at this point.

Also, what is going on with the scissors in Cletus' vid?

(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 11:03 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:40 AM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 11:16 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  I would like to see any other coach inherit the mess that Fuente took over and recruit any better. The image of Memphis football had hit rock-bottom. Anyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that a school's reputation has as much to do with recruiting success as salesmanship.

Porter's classes were head and shoulders better than fuente. Porter landed really good classes after 1-11 and 2-10 seasons so please give the tired excuses a break. Porter couldn't coach worth a crap but he could recruit. Fuente is a hellava coach but his recruiting especially on the defensive side of the ball is questionable at best.

And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is talking about his offensive recruiting. We're talking about defensive. We've all referenced that he's a very strong offensive recruiter

(11-16-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:36 PM)mewes Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 11:03 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:45 AM)Cletus Wrote:  And how many of them were still around on the roster when Fuente took over?

Because we were so shorthanded with a lack of scholarship players for the first couple of years.




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Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

We're on track to have the single best season in Memphis Tiger football history and you're recommending that the coach fire a coordinator in the off season?

I think this is proof that some of you have completely lost perspective at this point.

Statistically, this is one of the worst defenses we've had in decades. The offense is just so good that they make up for it most of the time. Yes, a coordinator change needs to be made. And likely will.

TCU's Gary Patterson has been criticized the last 2 years for "recruiting 3 star kids when they have more clout in Texas than UT." Gary continues to say he recruits kids to fit his system and it works!

This is the opposite of what Pastner does. CJP recruits the best talent he can per ESPN, Scout, etc recruiting rankings. Then he runs (I dunno what he runs and I coach BBall). And we hate that too. Point is....the system seems to work for Patterson and Fuente.

(11-15-2015 11:26 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Did I miss the part where Fuente was turning down 3/4 star players begging to be Tigers?

Hadn't gotten 4 wins even in the years preceding Fuente. Players that are highly rated don't sign up for that ride.

He's gotten some 0/1/2 star guys to buy in, play their butts off, and earn honors. A small few will get pro looks.

I don't even know how people are talking recruiting. We are 18-5 in the past two years with wins over Ole Miss, BYU, Cinci, and others.

Our losses:

- (x2) to a good Houston team, once in a bad game, once last night in a nail biter
- (x1) Ole Miss at the Grove, in a game we could have stolen
- (x1) UCLA at their house, in a game that was one possession the whole way
- (x1) Navy, a great team that is a pain to prepare for.

We've beaten EIGHTEEN OTHER TEAMS with these 0/1/2 stars.

Fuente has not been perfect. There were mistakes last night, even great coaches make mistakes. At times Fuente can be too cautious with his play calling. But, overall, he's done a fine job and we are lucky he is the HC.

If you can't see the program is on the uptick, locally and nationally, I don't know what to tell you. I am kind of amazed that Memphis fans don't see how far we've come.

I get being disappointed about last night, but the gnashing of teeth overall simply seems like too much for me to understand.

I don't appreciate you bringing logical and rational thoughts to this board. It sticks out like a sore thumb...