(04-08-2015 03:09 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  I'll just leave this here...

Quote:Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 52m 52 minutes ago
By way, don't mean to start anything but my 2 reliable ACC sources tell me the ACC is kicking around the idea of adding UCONN.

Damn it, that "Dude" better not be stalking my posts here again. Between him and Frank I see the changes that I make in my scenario seem to find a way on their blogs and tweets.

Look, there IS talk about UConn to the ACC but "The Dude" is no where near being the first person to bring that little tid bit to you.

UConn has decided to blackball the ACC.

If they call, we won't answer.

(04-08-2015 03:45 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 03:09 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  I'll just leave this here...

Quote:Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 52m 52 minutes ago
By way, don't mean to start anything but my 2 reliable ACC sources tell me the ACC is kicking around the idea of adding UCONN.

I see the Dude is still trying to get FSU into the Big XII... UConn to the ACC just might achieve that!

It wasn't gonna happen then, and it sure as h*ll is not gonna happen now!!

(04-08-2015 07:44 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn has decided to blackball the ACC.

If they call, we won't answer.

I call shenanigans.

Per my sources, nothing going on with UCONN at this time.

(04-08-2015 07:44 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn has decided to blackball the ACC.

If they call, we won't answer.

GOOD ONE!

(04-08-2015 04:36 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Basically if the ACC or B12 decide to add teams then it will be down to UC, Memphis, UCF, or UCONN.

UC, USF, U Conn

(04-09-2015 10:09 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 04:36 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Basically if the ACC or B12 decide to add teams then it will be down to UC, Memphis, UCF, or UCONN.

UC, USF, U Conn

Nope, those 4 teams are the ones coming up by the media not to mention all the behind closed doors smoke.

(04-08-2015 07:44 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn has decided to blackball the ACC.

If they call, we won't answer.

now that's funny

(04-09-2015 11:17 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 10:09 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 04:36 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Basically if the ACC or B12 decide to add teams then it will be down to UC, Memphis, UCF, or UCONN.

UC, USF, U Conn

Nope, those 4 teams are the ones coming up by the media not to mention all the behind closed doors smoke.

I would hardly think the set of names are the same for both conferences - save that cincinnati would be on both lists.

big 12: byu, colorado state, memphis, cincinnati, ucf, usf, (they already have too many schools in texas and uconn is too far out of the footprint)

acc: cincinnati, uconn (they have 2 teams in florida already and memphis is probably too far outside the footprint)

(04-08-2015 10:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Per my sources, nothing going on with UCONN at this time.

Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

(04-08-2015 02:30 PM)nert Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 02:07 PM)bearcats54 Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 01:19 PM)nert Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 01:01 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  My link is my use of the word "potential" above.

Definition:
POTENTIAL (po·ten·tial): existing in possibility : capable of development into actuality

So, under that "definition" of "potential future suitor in the Big Ten", how does Cincinnati not have the same potential? They are also within X miles of a current Big Ten program. They are also a very good basketball program. And how does UCF not have the same potential from the SEC? They're a huge school in a talent rich state.

The answer, of course, is that this "potential" is without any hint of legitimacy. You wish that there is potential there, so you state it is there and think a 3rd party will react to the wishful thinking of a fan of the program in question.

So why would the ACC (or any conference) jump to add a school (who they have repeatedly passed on) without any reason to believe that they would potentially lose out on the school forever to another conference (who has also shown no interest in that school)?

Potential = zero.

You don't seem particularly familiar with conference realignment issues. I will answer these questions for you.

"How does Cincinnati not have the same potential?"
1) As I stated, their position with the ACC could possibly be weakened if the Big 12 doesn't want them
2) Cincy is a good basketball program.. but it isn't UConn good. The UConn men have won more Big East Conference championships and won more national titles. The UConn women? They have no peer. However, Cincy does have a slight leg up in football with their football recruiting territory.
3) I don't care how close Cincy is to the Big Ten. They are not and will never be a Big Ten candidate. They are not a land grant state university, their state already has a Big Ten member (Ohio State), and they don't bring enough from an academic standpoint

"How does UCF not have the same potential from the SEC. They're a school in a talent rich state"
1) The SEC has Florida. Florida will never allow UCF to join. It is that simple. UCF's best bet is the Big 12 (which appears off the table for now). The ACC will only happen for UCF if Florida State or Miami leaves.

That is not a slam on either Cincy or UCF. Both are P5 worthy. Cincy's best bet is the Big 12, but the ACC is certainly a possibility. As for UCF, they would be great in the Big 12, but I just don't see the SEC or ACC adding them anytime soon.

You clearly know nothing about UC.

This.

UConn should have more BigEast championships, considering Cincinnati was only in the BigEast for a short time. Cincinnati football is a lot better than UConn football. Cincinnati has 2 national titles in basketball - and is a very strong program. NW'tern isn't a land-grant college - neither is Michigan - nor Indiana - nor Iowa. Women's basketball never made any school a candidate for conference expansion.

I'm not saying they are a candidate for the Big 10 - but I'm not the one imagining potentials that don't exist.

UConn is not going to get an invite from the ACC because the ACC fears that the Big10 will take them.

I took umbrage at the academic comment. UC is a top 24 public research university, ranked #53 for all schools, and ranked higher in the most recent Carnegie/Lombardi report than Nebraska, Indiana, Rutgers...and most certainly way ahead of UConn.

The ACC could actually leave the rest of the Atlantic and Coastal divisions intact if the North Carolina four are their own division.

(04-09-2015 03:21 PM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 11:17 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 10:09 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 04:36 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Basically if the ACC or B12 decide to add teams then it will be down to UC, Memphis, UCF, or UCONN.

UC, USF, U Conn

Nope, those 4 teams are the ones coming up by the media not to mention all the behind closed doors smoke.

I would hardly think the set of names are the same for both conferences - save that cincinnati would be on both lists.

big 12: byu, colorado state, memphis, cincinnati, ucf, usf, (they already have too many schools in texas and uconn is too far out of the footprint)

acc: cincinnati, uconn (they have 2 teams in florida already and memphis is probably too far outside the footprint)

IF there is expansion, then the list of schools not in P5 who would be most desirable are UC, UConn, BYU, UCF, USF, Memphis, and NIU
Of these, the ACC would be most interested in UC and UConn.
The Big 12 would be most interested in BYU, UCF, NIU, and maybe USF
The Big 10 is not going to dip down to a G5 group, not is the SEC nor PAC 12.
Seems to me that the ACC adding Cincy and UConn would make a lot of sense.
The Big 12 would then try to raid a P5 conference first and then tack back to BYU, NIU, Memphis, and probably Colo St.

Another nugget to chew on... the Cincinnati and Dayton TV markets merge in 2017 making it a top 20 TV market.

$$$$$$$$$

More numbers that may or may not be reliable:
A merged market would bring 3 million TV sets
The new market would bump the Cincinnati market from 34th to 15th largest in the nation

(04-16-2015 08:08 AM)AeroCat Wrote:  Another nugget to chew on... the Cincinnati and Dayton TV markets merge in 2017 making it a top 20 TV market.

$$$$$$$$$

More numbers that may or may not be reliable:
A merged market would bring 3 million TV sets
The new market would bump the Cincinnati market from 34th to 15th largest in the nation

Link? Pretty sure its MSA and not DMA that is merging.

(04-16-2015 08:24 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(04-16-2015 08:08 AM)AeroCat Wrote:  Another nugget to chew on... the Cincinnati and Dayton TV markets merge in 2017 making it a top 20 TV market.

$$$$$$$$$

More numbers that may or may not be reliable:
A merged market would bring 3 million TV sets
The new market would bump the Cincinnati market from 34th to 15th largest in the nation

Link? Pretty sure its MSA and not DMA that is merging.

Hey Hank, this came straight from the President/Athletic Director of UC at an event in Dayton that I attended. I don't remember them saying MSA or DMA, but the way they talked they said it would help UC's chances considerably. I will say that it is hard to find info on this proposed merger using my interweb super-powers. (shrug)

Here's another guy who heard the same thing back in October.
Link

(04-16-2015 08:31 AM)AeroCat Wrote:  

(04-16-2015 08:24 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(04-16-2015 08:08 AM)AeroCat Wrote:  Another nugget to chew on... the Cincinnati and Dayton TV markets merge in 2017 making it a top 20 TV market.

$$$$$$$$$

More numbers that may or may not be reliable:
A merged market would bring 3 million TV sets
The new market would bump the Cincinnati market from 34th to 15th largest in the nation

Link? Pretty sure its MSA and not DMA that is merging.

Hey Hank, this came straight from the President/Athletic Director of UC at an event in Dayton that I attended. I don't remember them saying MSA or DMA, but the way they talked they said it would help UC's chances considerably. I will say that it is hard to find info on this proposed merger using my interweb super-powers. (shrug)

Here's another guy who heard the same thing back in October.
Link

Thanks. I feel like I've been hearing about this for years, but can never seem to find a link about whether DMAs will merge. My interweb super-powers are limited though, so I was hoping you'd come through.

If it helps Cinci I hope it happens. We all need out.

(04-16-2015 08:43 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  Thanks. I feel like I've been hearing about this for years, but can never seem to find a link about whether DMAs will merge. My interweb super-powers are limited though, so I was hoping you'd come through.

If it helps Cinci I hope it happens. We all need out.

Sure. The link I provided is from the Bearcat Journal which is the pay forum for UC athletics. Really well connected guys on there. That guy actually specifically mentions the DMA.

We'll just have to see. Overall, all of this conference realignment and money stuff has really turned me off of college athletics. I'm still a UC football season ticket holder, but it has definitely put a sour taste in my mouth.

(04-11-2015 09:35 AM)bigredmachine Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 03:21 PM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 11:17 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 10:09 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 04:36 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Basically if the ACC or B12 decide to add teams then it will be down to UC, Memphis, UCF, or UCONN.

UC, USF, U Conn

Nope, those 4 teams are the ones coming up by the media not to mention all the behind closed doors smoke.

I would hardly think the set of names are the same for both conferences - save that cincinnati would be on both lists.

big 12: byu, colorado state, memphis, cincinnati, ucf, usf, (they already have too many schools in texas and uconn is too far out of the footprint)

acc: cincinnati, uconn (they have 2 teams in florida already and memphis is probably too far outside the footprint)

IF there is expansion, then the list of schools not in P5 who would be most desirable are UC, UConn, BYU, UCF, USF, Memphis, and NIU
Of these, the ACC would be most interested in UC and UConn.
The Big 12 would be most interested in BYU, UCF, NIU, and maybe USF
The Big 10 is not going to dip down to a G5 group, not is the SEC nor PAC 12.
Seems to me that the ACC adding Cincy and UConn would make a lot of sense.
The Big 12 would then try to raid a P5 conference first and then tack back to BYU, NIU, Memphis, and probably Colo St.

Ahh....without looking I knew you were an NIU fan