Due to their new pod system for football, they may need a 15th member to make three pods of 5 teams each. Their first choice is obviously getting ND to go all in, but that's not likely.
Here's hoping the Bearcats get that well-deserved invite to create the 15th team in football and perfect 16th member in hoops.
(04-07-2015 07:30 PM)Like_A_G5 Wrote: [ -> ]Due to their new pod system for football, they may need a 15th member to make three pods of 5 teams each. Their first choice is obviously getting ND to go all in, but that's not likely.
Here's hoping the Bearcats get that well-deserved invite to create the 15th team in football and perfect 16th member in hoops.
I heard the invite will be official tomorrow..
If there were a team that's not ND, I would go UC to completely sever any Big 12 impedance and cut the circulation out of WVU. Then you make a power play for ND for 16, or maybe throw WVU and UConn a bone at that point. I think 18 is the ideal number to secure all the rivalries in fantasy land.
North: Pitt, BC, WVU, UC, UConn, Cuse
Central: UVa, WF, Va Tech, Duke, UNC, UL
South: ND, FSU, Miami, Ga Tech, Clemson, NC State
I got to think if 3 pods of 5 happen than its just a matter of time until another rule change happens for 2 game playoff of pod winners. In the ACC case, trying to get ND as team 15 would be the first choice. Or they could just bring in cincy for spot 15 and if ND ever joined go to 4 x 4. The nd option probably protects them against being raided. The bigger picture is the sec and big 10 only need 1 school to also get the 3 pod of 5 setup and 2 game playoff. Maybe Uconn to the big 10 and WVU to the SEC with the big 12 bringing in BYU to get back to 10.
(04-07-2015 08:57 PM)bluesox Wrote: [ -> ]I got to think if 3 pods of 5 happen than its just a matter of time until another rule change happens for 2 game playoff of pod winners. In the ACC case, trying to get ND as team 15 would be the first choice. Or they could just bring in cincy for spot 15 and if ND ever joined go to 4 x 4. The nd option probably protects them against being raided. The bigger picture is the sec and big 10 only need 1 school to also get the 3 pod of 5 setup and 2 game playoff. Maybe Uconn to the big 10 and WVU to the SEC with the big 12 bringing in BYU to get back to 10.
Gives them a lot of flexibility on scheduling. Maybe ND could be a full member with 5-6 conference games if they had 3 5 team divisions.
Let the bidding war for UConn begin ...
I knew people would jump to this conclusion, but actually 14 works every bit as well as 15.
1. Remember first that if you had three divisions, winning a division would not mean you would automatically be in the CCG. Therefore having them be completely equal is not required even if ideally you want them somewhat close together.
2. If you have 3 divisions with 8 conference games, things work fine. Division A and B have 5 teams each while division C has 4. They all play round robin in division. That fills up 4 games in division A and B and 3 in division C. Division A and B play 2 teams from the other 2 divisions each on a rotation basis. That means that each team in division C is playing five out of division games (2 from one division and 3 from the other) and everything works out fine.
Math for division c: Out of division games: From division A and B each play 2 vs. division C. 10x2=20. 20 games/4 teams=5 games. 5 out of division games+3 in division games=8 games.
A couple of things:
1. Notre Dame IMO Will not give up it current status...they have Access to ACC Non NYD Six Bowls-(Music City Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl, Pinstripe Bowl etc...etc) and they have their own Separate Access Point with the Orange Bowl to play another ACC School along with being Eligible for other New Years Six Bowl Games and the CFP.
2. Why would the ACC go to "Divisions" when they can just assign 3 Lock In Games and Rotate the other 5 Conference Game on a Two Year Rotation...the Top 2 Schools in the in ACC Standings/CFP Rankings play for the ACC Title.
Yes, the answer is not 3 Divisions - it's one division. The ACC can go to 8 + Notre Dame, and may have the option of Notre Dame counting as a conference game for the school that is a full member. The other schools can then get their ninth conference game against another full member (like UNC and Wake Forest).
(04-07-2015 08:25 PM)RUScarlets Wrote: [ -> ]If there were a team that's not ND, I would go UC to completely sever any Big 12 impedance and cut the circulation out of WVU. Then you make a power play for ND for 16, or maybe throw WVU and UConn a bone at that point. I think 18 is the ideal number to secure all the rivalries in fantasy land.
North: Pitt, BC, WVU, UC, UConn, Cuse
Central: UVa, WF, Va Tech, Duke, UNC, UL
South: ND, FSU, Miami, Ga Tech, Clemson, NC State
I can be down for this, whatever it take to make room in the AAC and get NIU outta the MAC =)
My crystal ball says that officially, the ACC goes to a no-division setup and puts the top two teams (CFP rankings? Zombie BCS rankings? RPI?)
Unofficially, and for scheduling purposes, you have three groups. (Or maybe four.)
1. Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson
2. UNC, NCSU, Wake, Duke
3. UVA, VT, Louisville,
4. Pitt, Syracuse, BC
Play everyone in your group every year
3 & 4 play each other every year
1 plays 2 games vs 2 (and vice versa, obviously)
3 plays either 1 or 2, 4 plays either 2 or 1.
Everyone plays their group members every year. You play everyone in the conference at least every other year. An athlete will make at least one trip to every conference mate in a four-year career.
I think that works out.
I Hate This News So Very Much!
If anything, now there is far less need for expansion.
(04-08-2015 09:28 AM)esayem Wrote: [ -> ]If anything, now there is far less need for expansion.
This passes the need for further expansion goes down even more...this and the GoR...again, Thank You Delany, Maryland and the B1G for that last lifeline to the ACC for Louisville....
(04-07-2015 08:57 PM)bluesox Wrote: [ -> ]I got to think if 3 pods of 5 happen than its just a matter of time until another rule change happens for 2 game playoff of pod winners. In the ACC case, trying to get ND as team 15 would be the first choice. Or they could just bring in cincy for spot 15 and if ND ever joined go to 4 x 4. The nd option probably protects them against being raided. The bigger picture is the sec and big 10 only need 1 school to also get the 3 pod of 5 setup and 2 game playoff. Maybe Uconn to the big 10 and WVU to the SEC with the big 12 bringing in BYU to get back to 10.
BYU would make a lot more sense for the B12 - quality-neutral sports-wise with WVU, enhancement in academics, better national market and..
The Pac ain't taking them, so it solidifies your 10 against any future movement within SEC/ACC/B1G - best move.
Which means they won't do it/
IMO, this benefits every conference: no more will forced yearly match-ups exist, just a short list of permanent rivals and equal alternating of the other conference foes.
*marketing idiots can have their field day: "one conference, one champion"
(04-08-2015 09:47 AM)esayem Wrote: [ -> ]IMO, this benefits every conference: no more will forced yearly match-ups exist, just a short list of permanent rivals and equal alternating of the other conference foes.
*marketing idiots can have their field day: "one conference, one champion"
No divisions hurts every two division conference. The champion becomes more arbitrary. Its just who won a single game.
(04-08-2015 09:47 AM)esayem Wrote: [ -> ]IMO, this benefits every conference: no more will forced yearly match-ups exist, just a short list of permanent rivals and equal alternating of the other conference foes.
*marketing idiots can have their field day: "one conference, one champion"
Yes..I can see every Conference doing this...just a couple of Lock in opponents-(example Alabama...Locked in Auburn, Tennessee & Mississippi State) and rotate the 5 other league games...
(04-07-2015 11:39 PM)johnbragg Wrote: [ -> ]My crystal ball says that officially, the ACC goes to a no-division setup and puts the top two teams (CFP rankings? Zombie BCS rankings? RPI?)
Unofficially, and for scheduling purposes, you have three groups. (Or maybe four.)
1. Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson
2. UNC, NCSU, Wake, Duke
3. UVA, VT, Louisville,
4. Pitt, Syracuse, BC
Play everyone in your group every year
3 & 4 play each other every year
1 plays 2 games vs 2 (and vice versa, obviously)
3 plays either 1 or 2, 4 plays either 2 or 1.
Everyone plays their group members every year. You play everyone in the conference at least every other year. An athlete will make at least one trip to every conference mate in a four-year career.
I think that works out.
To piggyback on something Lumberpack stated in the ACC-board version of this thread, I can see a 3-division setup --
including Notre Dame and its "partial schedule" that culminates into a 4-team ACC playoff (3 division winners, because everyone loves a trophy -- AMIRITE?) and a wildcard of some sort.
A four-team playoff adds two games of quality football inventory for either ESPN or a potential ACC Network.
--- OR ---
I can see where the league would want to pit its top two
brands teams (based on CFP rankings) in a winner-take-all game in Charlotte where the winner would get a SOS boost
...
What I don't see is how this deregulation presents a need for the ACC to expand. It actually reduces the need for such now that it can determine the participants of the ACCCG
AND maximize revenue at the same time.
(04-08-2015 09:58 AM)Maize Wrote: [ -> ] (04-08-2015 09:47 AM)esayem Wrote: [ -> ]IMO, this benefits every conference: no more will forced yearly match-ups exist, just a short list of permanent rivals and equal alternating of the other conference foes.
*marketing idiots can have their field day: "one conference, one champion"
Yes..I can see every Conference doing this...just a couple of Lock in opponents-(example Alabama...Locked in Auburn, Tennessee & Mississippi State) and rotate the 5 other league games...
I think this is the best set up as long as there are 8 conference games. Every four year player sees every conference stadium and every team at home in a 3 permanent 5 rotating system.