(10-09-2014 05:54 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 05:08 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 02:19 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  They are an anomaly if you are the U of west central Florida, a/k/a USF.

That's some funny stick coming from a UCF fan.

Here's some cold facts for you;

1, WVU Loved playing USF. The stadiums were usually packed at both Schools and there was almost always something to play for when they did face off.

2, WVU covets UC as a rival in both Football and Basketball.

3, WVU loves to play ECU and actually went on record requesting ECU to be added as a travel companion.

4, UCF had a good year which helps their cause.

5, The Big 12 isn't looking to create any more islands. They want to eliminate them. By taking the schools mentioned they can do this. {Sorry BYU but adding you would only create a western island}.

Now I propose they take Tulane to complete the loop and look what's right there in the middle, Memphis. That gets them to 16 total and that's where all this is headed anyway. Once they pass deregulation and the two best teams concept, they can move to the pod system and create regional rivalries (Which the fans have been screaming for) and put more butts in the seats to maximize profits. Further more; as I've stated earlier, this also doubles the Conferences viewership population and number of states in which they have teams. This would help their ratings and add to advertising dollars.

I apologize, I know this is a message board and I'm not supposed to make sense.

I'm glad you appreciated my humor. What a USF fan purports as facts are really a subjective opinion. How is it a USF fan can tell us how the entire UWV fan base feels. Even if accurate this is a ok/Texas decision not a uwv one. What would help the b-12 marketing would be to acquire the 4th largest TV market in the country (Orlando/Tampa) to peddle their TV rights. Now that is a cold hard fact.

Urm, because everything I posted was published by a major news outlet. I didn't have to make anything up. I'm just using the facts they've provided me and even I don't think the Big 12 will do what's best for them.

However, you can continue to attack any USF fans posts or USF story, it's what UCF fans do best.

This same discussion is going at the ECU 247 site. A Texas Tech fan that posts there regularly mentioned that their administration lamented the missed opportunity to get UL and that there were concerns for WVU/travel.

BEFORE YOU GO APE I REALIZE ITS JUST A FAN, but he is a level headed and intelligent poster and it does offer some Big12 perspective, even if it is from a fan. He mentioned that there was discussion of a north/south split with the TX, OK and KS schools in the south with ISU, WVU and ???? in the north.

Its just conjecture from a fan but still, if that were the case then the options are ? Memphis, UC, ECU, UConn, Temple? NIU?

You could do the same with an East/West split but the questions then becomes does UConn basketball/brand trump Florida (UCF/USF) recruiting?

It's really too bad that the ACC didn't mess up and take UConn. Would have hurt us in bb but helped us in fb.

I have doubts that UT/OU care about WVU's preferences. The Mountaineers should just be thankful that they're not in the AAC right now because nobody else wanted them until A&M joined the SEC and forced the B12 to expand.

The B12 will do whatever UT/OU want because if they leave the P5 probably becomes the P4.

Anybody that wins the National Championship in basketball for the American gets a pass come football season from me..

(10-09-2014 09:57 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  It's really too bad that the ACC didn't mess up and take UConn. Would have hurt us in bb but helped us in fb.

The AAC isn't like the SEC or Big 12 where there are a few power football teams that are always at or near the top (like Alabama and Oklahoma respectively). The AAC, like the old Big East, will see teams rise and fall on an annual basis. In the old Big East, only WVU was consistently good. Every other program had some up moments and down moments. UConn was and will be no exception.

UConn is this conference's largest name brand. Take out UConn and watch what happens to the AAC's TV contract. Trust me, it wouldn't be pretty.

(10-09-2014 10:44 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 09:57 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  It's really too bad that the ACC didn't mess up and take UConn. Would have hurt us in bb but helped us in fb.

The AAC isn't like the SEC or Big 12 where there are a few power football teams that are always at or near the top (like Alabama and Oklahoma respectively). The AAC, like the old Big East, will see teams rise and fall on an annual basis. In the old Big East, only WVU was consistently good. Every other program had some up moments and down moments. UConn was and will be no exception.

UConn is this conference's largest name brand. Take out UConn and watch what happens to the AAC's TV contract. Trust me, it wouldn't be pretty.

UCONN would have made a better fit than Boston College. Much better basketball and more recent success in football.

stop day dreaming, as much as I want ucf in a p5, this not gonna happen for a lot reasons, at least not in the near future, not after big 12 champ being blocked from CFP for a couple seasons, not if AAC becomes an apparent candidate for p6 or the plus one,...


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(10-06-2014 03:54 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  [quote='FrancisDrake' pid='11214022' dateline='1412624255']

Texas just played a home and home with UCF and has a 2-1 deal with USF scheduled....

The must be psychic then as these games were scheduled before Mack Brown was even fired/retired, much less when Strong was hired.

Only because Strong wants to be able to recruit Florida.

(10-08-2014 09:17 AM)ECUPirated Wrote:  Yes and no. The BE contract was up. ESPN made an offer and "Olive Garden" refused it and went out on the open market. ESPN still had the right to match any offer. Then all hell broke loose and teams started leaving. So NBC came with a lowball offer. Since ESPN only had to match it, you see how much the new conference ended up with.

My thought is had that "clause" not been in the original BE contract when the old contract ended and all the realignment still went down the way it did, NBC would have came low and ESPN would have offered more.

That thought would be wrong... sort of. ESPN actually offered the Big East more than NBC did, both during the exclusive contract negotiating window, and while on the open market. The AAC chose to sign with NBC because they offered more guaranteed time slots (the original ESPN offer looked more like the old Big East deal with lots of syndicated games). When the AAC signed with NBC, ESPN had the right to match the offer, meaning they had the right to present an offer of equal terms, no more, no less (the Big East did not have to take it, but ESPN could not counter with a better offer either). To everyone's surprise, they did. They matched the contract terms, which NBC was sure they had priced ESPN out of (timeslots). But that's when ESPN was toying with opening up ESPN News and ESPN classic to live games, and then they had a way to match the timeslot offers (plus the sublicensing language bit NBC in the ass).

Without the right to match, that last offer from ESPN never would have come up. ESPN would have stuck with the higher monetary offer, but with less guaranteed timeslots. The AAC still would have signed with NBC, only it never would have gone to ESPN. So the Right to Match certainly helped, since the (now) AAC though the ESPN matching of the offer was better than the same terms with NBC. It just so happened the NBC terms more or less gave the AAC the exposure they wanted, but offered little money in return, because they knew no one else would match the timeslots.

(10-09-2014 12:00 PM)however Wrote:  stop day dreaming, as much as I want ucf in a p5, this not gonna happen for a lot reasons, at least not in the near future, not after big 12 champ being blocked from CFP for a couple seasons, not if AAC becomes an apparent candidate for p6 or the plus one,...


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daydreaming? "AAC a P6"?

(10-09-2014 12:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 12:00 PM)however Wrote:  stop day dreaming, as much as I want ucf in a p5, this not gonna happen for a lot reasons, at least not in the near future, not after big 12 champ being blocked from CFP for a couple seasons, not if AAC becomes an apparent candidate for p6 or the plus one,...


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daydreaming? "AAC a P6"?

If we as a conference, keep winning more & more, increase the TV contract however we can, and get a little bump in recruiting from greater exposure, I could see (through my red, white, & blue American shades) us getting the P-6 designation.....at least I am holding out hope for that to happen!

(10-09-2014 12:38 PM)ENCPir87769 Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 12:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-09-2014 12:00 PM)however Wrote:  stop day dreaming, as much as I want ucf in a p5, this not gonna happen for a lot reasons, at least not in the near future, not after big 12 champ being blocked from CFP for a couple seasons, not if AAC becomes an apparent candidate for p6 or the plus one,...


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daydreaming? "AAC a P6"?

If we as a conference, keep winning more & more, increase the TV contract however we can, and get a little bump in recruiting from greater exposure, I could see (through my red, white, & blue American shades) us getting the P-6 designation.....at least I am holding out hope for that to happen!

Won't happen, the Cartel tore apart the Big East and MWC to consolidate their power, they aren't about to give any of that power back. The best we can achieve is a tweener status.

As soon as AAC shows any sign of p6, then another round of purge will occur, not at the willing of p5, but ESPN, they can not stand the rise of BE and AAC. If that happens, usf/ucf, uc, or even ecu to b12, unconn to b10 is almost certain.

Another possibility, if Texas and ok are finally done with playing with losers of the rest of b12, bailed the ship to p12 or sec, then an merger between AAC and the leftovers of b12 will sure becomes a power conference, I will pray for this to happen.


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If the Big XII expands they will be looking for (1) locations outside of the current footprint which are in a great recruiting area with a great TV market, and (2) teams with large fan followings. Great basketball is a plus but probably only a tie-breaker.

By these guidelines, IMO, they would look at:
1. UCF
2. ECU
3. Cincinnati or Memphis
4. UConn

I assume they would be looking to take only 2 teams, if any.

Don't leave us

Maybe we can build that on-campus stadium, fill the seats, put together a few good years and get an ACC invite? Maybe? Please?