(10-06-2014 11:41 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:40 AM)KnightMan Wrote:  UCF/USF to the Big 12 and ECU/Cinci to the ACC eventually imo.

Sorry, the Big 12 is not looking at the Florida twins.

I agree you are SORRY.

(10-07-2014 10:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  But not for the Florida twins

They are not twins. One has an OCS and is a solid program, the other is marginally better than smu (which means they suck donkey balls, only marginally smaller ones than the ones smu is lip-locked on). I look forward to the next game in which UCF hands your pathetic program another loss. Smu is a bringing the rest of the AAC sos way down, perhaps you guys could play the sisters of the blind U. And limit your margin of loss to the low double digits.

(10-08-2014 01:06 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  But not for the Florida twins

They are not twins. One has an OCS and is a solid program, the other is marginally better than smu (which means they suck donkey balls, only marginally smaller ones than the ones smu is lip-locked on). I look forward to the next game in which UCF hands your pathetic program another loss. Smu is a bringing the rest of the AAC sos way down, perhaps you guys could play the sisters of the blind U. And limit your margin of loss to the low double digits.

The fans at Central Florida University don't have to leave campus to not show up for the game, unlike their Southern Florida brethren. Pony, you have to admit that's a pretty compelling argument for the Big 12 Commissioners.

(10-08-2014 01:25 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 01:06 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  But not for the Florida twins

They are not twins. One has an OCS and is a solid program, the other is marginally better than smu (which means they suck donkey balls, only marginally smaller ones than the ones smu is lip-locked on). I look forward to the next game in which UCF hands your pathetic program another loss. Smu is a bringing the rest of the AAC sos way down, perhaps you guys could play the sisters of the blind U. And limit your margin of loss to the low double digits. Jealous smu is pushing UC out of the way for a mouthful?

The fans at Central Florida University don't have to leave campus to not show up for the game, unlike their Southern Florida brethren. Pony, you have to admit that's a pretty compelling argument for the Big 12 Commissioners.

Really, and so witty. Never let the facts get in the way of your bs. Try looking at real numbers not figments of your imagination. UCF is averaging over 44k real fans with a sell out against a fcs team. A UC fan talking attendance smack, now I've seen it all.

(10-08-2014 01:30 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 01:25 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 01:06 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  But not for the Florida twins

They are not twins. One has an OCS and is a solid program, the other is marginally better than smu (which means they suck donkey balls, only marginally smaller ones than the ones smu is lip-locked on). I look forward to the next game in which UCF hands your pathetic program another loss. Smu is a bringing the rest of the AAC sos way down, perhaps you guys could play the sisters of the blind U. And limit your margin of loss to the low double digits. Jealous smu is pushing UC out of the way for a mouthful?

The fans at Central Florida University don't have to leave campus to not show up for the game, unlike their Southern Florida brethren. Pony, you have to admit that's a pretty compelling argument for the Big 12 Commissioners.

Really, and so witty. Never let the facts get in the way of your bs. Try looking at real numbers not figments of your imagination. UCF is averaging over 44k real fans with a sell out against a fcs team. A UC fan talking attendance smack, now I've seen it all.

What? I thought it was a compelling reason. On campus stadiums are such an anomaly.

(10-06-2014 03:44 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 03:37 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  SMU and Tulane have as good a chance at the B12 as either Florida school. Not saying this to be an ass, but they really, really do not want to add any more islands to their geography if they are forced to expand. And that's not speculation either folks, but the cold, hard reality. They'll look to connect WVU to the rest of the conference first and foremost (unless they manage a miracle and get Notre Dame, which has as much a chance of happening as any of the rest of this nonsense).

No; they really dont. And that you could even type that indicates how lost you are regarding realignment.

Actually, they really do, although the Fla schools are probably the prime properties. They certainly have a good/better chance as the northern schools do.. And that you don't realize that shows how little you know.
It's a lot easier for TU to fix its football and basketball programs than for U Conn, say, to be AAU (and heck, U Conn needs to fix its football program as well).

(10-08-2014 01:33 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 01:30 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 01:25 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 01:06 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  But not for the Florida twins

They are not twins. One has an OCS and is a solid program, the other is marginally better than smu (which means they suck donkey balls, only marginally smaller ones than the ones smu is lip-locked on). I look forward to the next game in which UCF hands your pathetic program another loss. Smu is a bringing the rest of the AAC sos way down, perhaps you guys could play the sisters of the blind U. And limit your margin of loss to the low double digits. Jealous smu is pushing UC out of the way for a mouthful?

The fans at Central Florida University don't have to leave campus to not show up for the game, unlike their Southern Florida brethren. Pony, you have to admit that's a pretty compelling argument for the Big 12 Commissioners.

Really, and so witty. Never let the facts get in the way of your bs. Try looking at real numbers not figments of your imagination. UCF is averaging over 44k real fans with a sell out against a fcs team. A UC fan talking attendance smack, now I've seen it all.

What? I thought it was a compelling reason. On campus stadiums are such an anomaly.

They are an anomaly if you are the U of west central Florida, a/k/a USF.

(10-07-2014 10:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  But not for the Florida twins

Huh?


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(10-08-2014 08:42 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:47 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:12 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 12:20 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  How would a GOR work?

In the ACC, I heard FSU and Maryland voted against it, but it still happened. Is that possible?

FSU and Maryland voted against the exit fee and it was negotiated down to 31.4 million. A grant of rights has to be signed on by every school to take affect.

I think the most ESPN would pay out would be an extra 500k or 1 million per school per year to the AAC if they had a GoR and that's a huge percentage increase. But $3 million is not enough to get every AAC school to sign a GoR.

They are throwing around 8 to 10 mill per school


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Who is throwing around $8-10M? The people who made all of this **** up to begin with? Here's all you need to know about how much ESPN wants to pay us: they let NBC bid.

They didn't let them do anything. They had the option to match. The AAC forced it to the market. Secondly you could say the same for any of the dredges of the p5. We were not in the same position when this deal was done.


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(10-08-2014 02:19 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  They are an anomaly if you are the U of west central Florida, a/k/a USF.

That's some funny stick coming from a UCF fan.

Here's some cold facts for you;

1, WVU Loved playing USF. The stadiums were usually packed at both Schools and there was almost always something to play for when they did face off.

2, WVU covets UC as a rival in both Football and Basketball.

3, WVU loves to play ECU and actually went on record requesting ECU to be added as a travel companion.

4, UCF had a good year which helps their cause.

5, The Big 12 isn't looking to create any more islands. They want to eliminate them. By taking the schools mentioned they can do this. {Sorry BYU but adding you would only create a western island}.

Now I propose they take Tulane to complete the loop and look what's right there in the middle, Memphis. That gets them to 16 total and that's where all this is headed anyway. Once they pass deregulation and the two best teams concept, they can move to the pod system and create regional rivalries (Which the fans have been screaming for) and put more butts in the seats to maximize profits. Further more; as I've stated earlier, this also doubles the Conferences viewership population and number of states in which they have teams. This would help their ratings and add to advertising dollars.

I apologize, I know this is a message board and I'm not supposed to make sense.

(10-08-2014 04:59 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 08:42 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:47 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:12 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 12:20 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  How would a GOR work?

In the ACC, I heard FSU and Maryland voted against it, but it still happened. Is that possible?

FSU and Maryland voted against the exit fee and it was negotiated down to 31.4 million. A grant of rights has to be signed on by every school to take affect.

I think the most ESPN would pay out would be an extra 500k or 1 million per school per year to the AAC if they had a GoR and that's a huge percentage increase. But $3 million is not enough to get every AAC school to sign a GoR.

They are throwing around 8 to 10 mill per school


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Who is throwing around $8-10M? The people who made all of this **** up to begin with? Here's all you need to know about how much ESPN wants to pay us: they let NBC bid.

They didn't let them do anything. They had the option to match. The AAC forced it to the market. Secondly you could say the same for any of the dredges of the p5. We were not in the same position when this deal was done.


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You didn't answer my question...

For those interested.

The Current Big 12 states are in green. The proposed addition states are in light green. You can see how this will help the Big 12 in marketing and advertising as well as posible network fees.


Current Big 12 States;

Texas with UT, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU.
Oklahoma with OU and OSU.
Iowa with Iowa State.
West Virginia with WVU.

Additional Big 12 States;

Ohio with UC.
Tennessee with Memphis.
North Carolina with ECU.
Louisiana with Tulane.
Florida with USF and UCF.

Looks good to me.

(10-08-2014 05:12 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 04:59 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 08:42 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:47 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:12 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  FSU and Maryland voted against the exit fee and it was negotiated down to 31.4 million. A grant of rights has to be signed on by every school to take affect.

I think the most ESPN would pay out would be an extra 500k or 1 million per school per year to the AAC if they had a GoR and that's a huge percentage increase. But $3 million is not enough to get every AAC school to sign a GoR.

They are throwing around 8 to 10 mill per school


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Who is throwing around $8-10M? The people who made all of this **** up to begin with? Here's all you need to know about how much ESPN wants to pay us: they let NBC bid.

They didn't let them do anything. They had the option to match. The AAC forced it to the market. Secondly you could say the same for any of the dredges of the p5. We were not in the same position when this deal was done.


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You didn't answer my question...

They being the various people posting about it.


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(10-08-2014 05:08 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 02:19 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  They are an anomaly if you are the U of west central Florida, a/k/a USF.

That's some funny stick coming from a UCF fan.

Here's some cold facts for you;

1, WVU Loved playing USF. The stadiums were usually packed at both Schools and there was almost always something to play for when they did face off.

2, WVU covets UC as a rival in both Football and Basketball.

3, WVU loves to play ECU and actually went on record requesting ECU to be added as a travel companion.

4, UCF had a good year which helps their cause.

5, The Big 12 isn't looking to create any more islands. They want to eliminate them. By taking the schools mentioned they can do this. {Sorry BYU but adding you would only create a western island}.

Now I propose they take Tulane to complete the loop and look what's right there in the middle, Memphis. That gets them to 16 total and that's where all this is headed anyway. Once they pass deregulation and the two best teams concept, they can move to the pod system and create regional rivalries (Which the fans have been screaming for) and put more butts in the seats to maximize profits. Further more; as I've stated earlier, this also doubles the Conferences viewership population and number of states in which they have teams. This would help their ratings and add to advertising dollars.

I apologize, I know this is a message board and I'm not supposed to make sense.

I agree with you on big 12's interest in ECU (based on WV's AD comments on ECU) but have seen nothing but speculation on here that USF is a candidate. I don't see them as a realistic candidate until they build an OCS, have several Boise type seasons in a row, and the other 9 big 12 members want to commit to having a Florida team in the conference. Just my humble opinion which you ve made clear you don't respect.

(10-08-2014 06:34 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 05:12 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 04:59 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 08:42 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:47 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  They are throwing around 8 to 10 mill per school


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Who is throwing around $8-10M? The people who made all of this **** up to begin with? Here's all you need to know about how much ESPN wants to pay us: they let NBC bid.

They didn't let them do anything. They had the option to match. The AAC forced it to the market. Secondly you could say the same for any of the dredges of the p5. We were not in the same position when this deal was done.


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You didn't answer my question...

They being the various people posting about it.


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So no one then, thanks

(10-08-2014 06:33 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  For those interested.

The Current Big 12 states are in green. The proposed addition states are in light green. You can see how this will help the Big 12 in marketing and advertising as well as posible network fees.


Current Big 12 States;

Texas with UT, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU.
Oklahoma with OU and OSU.
Iowa with Iowa State.
West Virginia with WVU.

Additional Big 12 States;

Ohio with UC.
Tennessee with Memphis.
North Carolina with ECU.
Louisiana with Tulane.
Florida with USF and UCF.

Looks good to me.

Subtract Louisiana and add Connecticut, and you're onto something...

(10-08-2014 07:49 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 06:33 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  For those interested.

The Current Big 12 states are in green. The proposed addition states are in light green. You can see how this will help the Big 12 in marketing and advertising as well as posible network fees.


Current Big 12 States;

Texas with UT, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU.
Oklahoma with OU and OSU.
Iowa with Iowa State.
West Virginia with WVU.

Additional Big 12 States;

Ohio with UC.
Tennessee with Memphis.
North Carolina with ECU.
Louisiana with Tulane.
Florida with USF and UCF.

Looks good to me.

Subtract Louisiana and add Connecticut, and you're onto something...

If I did a map for the B1G, you'd see that UConn is headed there.

(10-06-2014 11:32 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Saw this over on the realignment board. Does anyone know if this guy has any credibility? Im not familiar with him.

What this league has to worry about right now is ECU, UC, UCF and USF going to the Big 12 to help create an East Division and get a conference championship game. Details are still very sketchy, but it appears the doors have finally opened to the Big 12 finding regional teams for WVU to assist with travel and also establish a long sought after Florida footprint for the league. Multiple sources have suggested that Mike Aresco is already trying to renegotiate the American's current TV deal for the league in an effort to keep these teams in the conference with more money and a possible Grant of Rights. But Aresco's response is reportedly forcing the hand of the Big 12 even faster.

That is expected to unfold within the next four weeks and isn't something American fans should worry about at the moment. Fans should be more concerned with when their favorite team plays Memphis or ECU, because those programs are on fire right now. Surprisingly, the Tigers and Pirates don't play each other this season, so don't expect the question of who is best to be answered on the gridiron.

We will catch up with the league every morning here on the AAC blog and keep a close eye on realignment as well.


http://www.bcsnn.com/aac/777-memphis-sho...nment.html

AAC + GOR =

(10-08-2014 09:12 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:32 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Saw this over on the realignment board. Does anyone know if this guy has any credibility? Im not familiar with him.

What this league has to worry about right now is ECU, UC, UCF and USF going to the Big 12 to help create an East Division and get a conference championship game. Details are still very sketchy, but it appears the doors have finally opened to the Big 12 finding regional teams for WVU to assist with travel and also establish a long sought after Florida footprint for the league. Multiple sources have suggested that Mike Aresco is already trying to renegotiate the American's current TV deal for the league in an effort to keep these teams in the conference with more money and a possible Grant of Rights. But Aresco's response is reportedly forcing the hand of the Big 12 even faster.

That is expected to unfold within the next four weeks and isn't something American fans should worry about at the moment. Fans should be more concerned with when their favorite team plays Memphis or ECU, because those programs are on fire right now. Surprisingly, the Tigers and Pirates don't play each other this season, so don't expect the question of who is best to be answered on the gridiron.

We will catch up with the league every morning here on the AAC blog and keep a close eye on realignment as well.


http://www.bcsnn.com/aac/777-memphis-sho...nment.html

AAC + GOR =

At least I come out and say my posts are for fun.

(10-08-2014 05:08 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 02:19 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  They are an anomaly if you are the U of west central Florida, a/k/a USF.

That's some funny stick coming from a UCF fan.

Here's some cold facts for you;

1, WVU Loved playing USF. The stadiums were usually packed at both Schools and there was almost always something to play for when they did face off.

2, WVU covets UC as a rival in both Football and Basketball.

3, WVU loves to play ECU and actually went on record requesting ECU to be added as a travel companion.

4, UCF had a good year which helps their cause.

5, The Big 12 isn't looking to create any more islands. They want to eliminate them. By taking the schools mentioned they can do this. {Sorry BYU but adding you would only create a western island}.

Now I propose they take Tulane to complete the loop and look what's right there in the middle, Memphis. That gets them to 16 total and that's where all this is headed anyway. Once they pass deregulation and the two best teams concept, they can move to the pod system and create regional rivalries (Which the fans have been screaming for) and put more butts in the seats to maximize profits. Further more; as I've stated earlier, this also doubles the Conferences viewership population and number of states in which they have teams. This would help their ratings and add to advertising dollars.

I apologize, I know this is a message board and I'm not supposed to make sense.

I'm glad you appreciated my humor. What a USF fan purports as facts are really a subjective opinion. How is it a USF fan can tell us how the entire UWV fan base feels. Even if accurate this is a ok/Texas decision not a uwv one. What would help the b-12 marketing would be to acquire the 4th largest TV market in the country (Orlando/Tampa) to peddle their TV rights. Now that is a cold hard fact.