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(08-21-2014 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I never said that. Go back and read exactly what I posted.

I said that IF ( and thats a big if) the crime was premeditated, then his line of thinking would be that he wanted retaliation for getting beat up.

No where did I say that he in fact beat him up.

Maybe later. I don't feel like it right now.
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(08-21-2014 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I never said that. Go back and read exactly what I posted.

I said that IF ( and thats a big if) the crime was premeditated, then his line of thinking would be that he wanted retaliation for getting beat up.

No where did I say that he in fact beat him up.

I think you would have a hard time classifying that as premeditation (or deliberation as it is called in MO).
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Key witness flips testimony?
(08-21-2014 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 01:05 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 12:32 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 11:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 11:15 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  So you are saying that MB did in fact beat up the officer?

I think there was a struggle for the gun. Yes. I really don't know anyone that doesn't believe that.

No, no, no. You said that MB did in fact beat up the officer. There is a difference between a struggle and an assault. Don't backtrack now!

Gay soccer refs backtrack.

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Fit backtracks.

Fit's a gay soccer ref.

I never said that. Go back and read exactly what I posted.

I said that IF ( and thats a big if) the crime was premeditated, then his line of thinking would be that he wanted retaliation for getting beat up.

No where did I say that he in fact beat him up.

Are you retarded? You should really read the comments you make man.

The evidence is closing in on. MB. It appears that he assaulted the officer, resulting in a Broken orbital bone.

At that point he officer is in the process of arresting the Animal that just assaulted him.

Do you the capacity and skill set to follow that sequence? Yes or No Fit?




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I'm still waiting on him to answer my comment.
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(08-21-2014 02:40 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still waiting on him to answer my comment.

He won't answer you if you prove him wrong.
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RE: Key witness flips testimony?
If the witness recanted his story it means that Wilson is innocent. But do you guy really think this will stop the protestors? I don't. They want blood no matter if it's innocent blood or not.

And please, don't judge all Hispanics because of feet, okay. He's not right in the mind. He's an embarrassment to Hispanics.
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(08-21-2014 02:35 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I never said that. Go back and read exactly what I posted.

I said that IF ( and thats a big if) the crime was premeditated, then his line of thinking would be that he wanted retaliation for getting beat up.

No where did I say that he in fact beat him up.

I think you would have a hard time classifying that as premeditation (or deliberation as it is called in MO).

It's not likely if this new info is true but it is possible.

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(08-21-2014 10:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 02:35 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I never said that. Go back and read exactly what I posted.

I said that IF ( and thats a big if) the crime was premeditated, then his line of thinking would be that he wanted retaliation for getting beat up.

No where did I say that he in fact beat him up.

I think you would have a hard time classifying that as premeditation (or deliberation as it is called in MO).

It's not likely if this new info is true but it is possible.

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DO you have information that the officer left the scene, planned for a few hours how he would kill Brown, and then did it? Because that's what you would need to 1st degree murder.
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RE: Key witness flips testimony?
premeditated does not require hours. If you think it in your head before you do it, it's premeditated. Of course the less time between thought and murder, the harder it is to prove. It is possible however that after a beating, a cop can intend to kill out of retaliation.

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(08-22-2014 11:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  premeditated does not require hours. If you think it in your head before you do it, it's premeditated. Of course the less time between thought and murder, the harder it is to prove. It is possible however that after a beating, a cop can intend to kill out of retaliation.

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In this case, where it was mere seconds after the "supposed" altercation at the car, premeditation would be almost impossible to rationalize. Heat of passion crimes are rarely, if ever, determined to be premeditated. Doesn't meet the criteria.
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(08-22-2014 11:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  premeditated does not require hours. If you think it in your head before you do it, it's premeditated. Of course the less time between thought and murder, the harder it is to prove. It is possible however that after a beating, a cop can intend to kill out of retaliation.

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Fit, we all know that no matter what happens you will find a way to manipulate the story to find this cop guilty. Meanwhile, you live just a stone's throw from one of the most dangerous cities in the world where your peeps are being slaughtered for drug money and you say?
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I don't have anything against this cop. He deserves his day in court. However, what do murders in Juarez have to do with this?

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(08-23-2014 12:19 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  However, what do murders in Juarez have to do with this?

Isn't all life sacred or just the lives of black men in Ferguson?
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(08-22-2014 11:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  premeditated does not require hours. If you think it in your head before you do it, it's premeditated. Of course the less time between thought and murder, the harder it is to prove. It is possible however that after a beating, a cop can intend to kill out of retaliation.

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Incorrect.
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First-degree murder is any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought. Felony murder is typically first-degree. The definition of 1st-degree murder is similar under Canadian law.

Premeditated- think out or plan (an action, especially a crime) beforehand.

Premeditated murder is the crime of wrongfully and intentionally causing the death of another human being (also known as murder) after rationally considering the timing or method of doing so, in order to either increase the likelihood of success, or to evade detection or apprehension.
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