(08-14-2014 12:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:19 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So how is Apple going to make more minorities seek degrees and training in the spots they need filled?

They aren't. It just looks like a long term strategy for them going forward.

OK. Strategy. Ideas? How do you think they will fix their little diversity problem? Just guess at the most logical approach...

I have no idea Okie. I don't blaze the web for ever story that has a hint of Liberal slant and try to read things into it. I just don't care.

You cared enough to post and suggest it is the right decision.

I'm just wondering why you think giving people preference based on color of skin is a solution.

I never offered an opinion on the subject. My comment dealt with Apple's right to do what ever it wants to do as a company.

(08-14-2014 12:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:38 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm just wondering why you think giving people preference based on color of skin is a solution.

Do you honestly think that a company full of white males is going to be able to fully relate and design products for black and hispanic American's, let alone all the people of Asia, Europe, and Africa (yes, they do design for Africa as well)?

Do you realize how racist this comment is?

The answer is yes.

You have veered off topic again. How is Apple going to bring more minorities into its organization.

Look at what I quoted. First of all, you asked if it was okay. I present an example that showed where it would be okay. It isn't racist, it is business. A white male does not know what a woman wants (we all know that), let alone someone with a completely different background.

What don't you get about that?

That would be like asking a woman to design a cup for a man. It doesn't make sense. Get as many backgrounds together as possible then work to develop great products that can be enjoyed by the masses instead of a subsection of society.

(08-14-2014 12:43 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:19 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  They aren't. It just looks like a long term strategy for them going forward.

OK. Strategy. Ideas? How do you think they will fix their little diversity problem? Just guess at the most logical approach...

I have no idea Okie. I don't blaze the web for ever story that has a hint of Liberal slant and try to read things into it. I just don't care.

You cared enough to post and suggest it is the right decision.

I'm just wondering why you think giving people preference based on color of skin is a solution.

I never offered an opinion on the subject. My comment dealt with Apple's right to do what ever it wants to do as a company.

Who suggested they didn't have a right?

In other words you cannot defend why you think this is a good idea.

(08-14-2014 12:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:43 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  OK. Strategy. Ideas? How do you think they will fix their little diversity problem? Just guess at the most logical approach...

I have no idea Okie. I don't blaze the web for ever story that has a hint of Liberal slant and try to read things into it. I just don't care.

You cared enough to post and suggest it is the right decision.

I'm just wondering why you think giving people preference based on color of skin is a solution.

I never offered an opinion on the subject. My comment dealt with Apple's right to do what ever it wants to do as a company.

Who suggested they didn't have a right?

In other words you cannot defend why you think this is a good idea.

I made no comment on the subject to defend. It is none of my business what Apple does. Clear enough?

(08-14-2014 12:51 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:43 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I have no idea Okie. I don't blaze the web for ever story that has a hint of Liberal slant and try to read things into it. I just don't care.

You cared enough to post and suggest it is the right decision.

I'm just wondering why you think giving people preference based on color of skin is a solution.

I never offered an opinion on the subject. My comment dealt with Apple's right to do what ever it wants to do as a company.

Who suggested they didn't have a right?

In other words you cannot defend why you think this is a good idea.

I made no comment on the subject to defend. It is none of my business what Apple does. Clear enough?

LOL man. This is a board for political discussions and opinions. I think everyone is well aware that this is not a meeting to discuss what decision shall be made on how we will force Apple to run its company.

If you don't have an opinion, then spend your time commenting on a topic that you do have an opinion on.

Coca-Cola started catering to ethnic groups decades ago.
This didn’t stop conservatives from drinking Powerade.

(08-14-2014 12:55 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  Coca-Cola started catering to ethnic groups decades ago.
This didn’t stop conservatives from drinking Powerade.

And Coca-Cola catered to other areas of the world by changing their formula to fit the local taste preferences. How'd they do that? Hired people from there to help them come up with an optimal taste.

Who'd have thought that hiring people from areas of which you want to sell you product may help you develop something more in line with their interests/tastes?

(08-14-2014 12:57 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 12:55 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  Coca-Cola started catering to ethnic groups decades ago.
This didn’t stop conservatives from drinking Powerade.

And Coca-Cola catered to other areas of the world by changing their formula to fit the local taste preferences. How'd they do that? Hired people from there to help them come up with an optimal taste.

Who'd have thought that hiring people from areas of which you want to sell you product may help you develop something more in line with their interests/tastes?

So what you are saying is that companies need to hire people based on the color of their skin so they can relate to other people with that same skin color?

(08-14-2014 01:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So what you are saying is that companies need to hire people based on the color of their skin so they can relate to other people with that same skin color?

Yes, at some level. Let's be honest, you, a white male from Oklahoma, are not going to know the interests of an inner city black kid.

I, as a white male in Ohio, am not going to know what someone in Beijing would like in terms of design.

If Apple were to say they would never hire a white male again, then yes, that is racism. In this case, it is the job of the CEO to make sure his company continues to produce goods that is wanted by the masses, not just 1 specific race or sex.

So, Coke, Apple, the NFL...

Who am I missing in the cabal?

(08-14-2014 01:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 01:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So what you are saying is that companies need to hire people based on the color of their skin so they can relate to other people with that same skin color?

Yes, at some level. Let's be honest, you, a white male from Oklahoma, are not going to know the interests of an inner city black kid.

I, as a white male in Ohio, am not going to know what someone in Beijing would like in terms of design.

If Apple were to say they would never hire a white male again, then yes, that is racism. In this case, it is the job of the CEO to make sure his company continues to produce goods that is wanted by the masses, not just 1 specific race or sex.

So you think products need to race based. Very interesting indeed.

What is your vision of an inner city black kid laptop? What name do you think they would give this product? How would this product differ from the run of the mill white boy from Topeka model?

(08-14-2014 01:15 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So you think products need to race based. Very interesting indeed.

What is your vision of an inner city black kid laptop? What name do you think they would give this product? How would this product differ from the run of the mill white boy from Topeka model?

I'm a white male in suburban Ohio. I have no clue what an inner city kid might want in terms of laptop design, color, etc., that is the entire point. Nor a tablet, an MP3 player, a cell phone, or any other mobile electronic device.

It isn't necessarily "race based," it is market based. Markets are different between inner city and suburban and rural, markets are different between countries, markets are different between sexes... so you include as many people from those different markets as possible to create products for the masses. You certainly don't seem to understand capitalism.

(08-14-2014 01:33 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 01:15 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So you think products need to race based. Very interesting indeed.

What is your vision of an inner city black kid laptop? What name do you think they would give this product? How would this product differ from the run of the mill white boy from Topeka model?

I'm a white male in suburban Ohio. I have no clue what an inner city kid might want in terms of laptop design, color, etc., that is the entire point. Nor a tablet, an MP3 player, a cell phone, or any other mobile electronic device.

You have no clue what it should look like. You just know that inner city black kids should have a separate laptop.

(08-14-2014 01:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You have no clue what it should look like. You just know that inner city black kids should have a separate laptop.

I posted before I was done with my thought. I added this part:

Quote:It isn't necessarily "race based," it is market based. Markets are different between inner city and suburban and rural, markets are different between countries, markets are different between sexes... so you include as many people from those different markets as possible to create products for the masses. You certainly don't seem to understand capitalism.

Most boys aren't going to want a pink laptop (yes, they have colors now). Most girls won't want one that has a Los Angeles Lakers logo or what have you on it.

So yes, I think they should bring people in to figure out what their potential target markets want and cater to as many as possible. What is so hard to recognize about this? Or do you just think you are going to have some sort of "gotcha" moment thinking that I'm going to say that black kids and white kids should have different designs?

I think a capitalist company, if smart, is going to target to every possible market segment. That simple. That means you bring in people from every one of those segments to help create products that will be liked by each one of your target markets.

I have this question for okla. What major company today doesn't have some sort of diversity policy?

(08-14-2014 01:40 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 01:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You have no clue what it should look like. You just know that inner city black kids should have a separate laptop.

I posted before I was done with my thought. I added this part:

Quote:It isn't necessarily "race based," it is market based. Markets are different between inner city and suburban and rural, markets are different between countries, markets are different between sexes... so you include as many people from those different markets as possible to create products for the masses. You certainly don't seem to understand capitalism.

Most boys aren't going to want a pink laptop (yes, they have colors now). Most girls won't want one that has a Los Angeles Lakers logo or what have you on it.

So yes, I think they should bring people in to figure out what their potential target markets want and cater to as many as possible. What is so hard to recognize about this? Or do you just think you are going to have some sort of "gotcha" moment thinking that I'm going to say that black kids and white kids should have different designs?

I think a capitalist company, if smart, is going to target to every possible market segment. That simple. That means you bring in people from every one of those segments to help create products that will be liked by each one of your target markets.

Right, and only minorities know what colors minorities like. Everyone knows that minorities like different colors than regular white people.

So now that we have trudged through this liberal land of insanity, what should Apple do about the lack of training and education in the minority community? Throw money at the problem? Make sure that colleges are accepting people based on race? Didn't we just deal with this issue in the Supreme Court?

(08-14-2014 01:55 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Right, and only minorities know what colors minorities like. Everyone knows that minorities like different colors than regular white people.

So shouldn't you hire someone who is part of that market segment to help you with the design?

Quote:So now that we have trudged through this liberal land of insanity, what should Apple do about the lack of training and education in the minority community? Throw money at the problem? Make sure that colleges are accepting people based on race? Didn't we just deal with this issue in the Supreme Court?

Seems to me that Apple is doing what it plans to do to try and help the situation... tell those people that if they go into the fields they are hiring that they want to diversify their workforce to make it more even. It is good publicity that may bring about more non-white males into those degree programs.

Quote:So shouldn't you hire someone who is part of that market segment to help you with the design?

How many blacks that will be competing for jobs at Apple do you think are being pulled right out of the hood? I would venture to guess that the vast majority of them know about as much about ghetto culture and demands as Phil Robertson.

(08-14-2014 02:26 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 01:55 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Right, and only minorities know what colors minorities like. Everyone knows that minorities like different colors than regular white people.

So shouldn't you hire someone who is part of that market segment to help you with the design?

Quote:So now that we have trudged through this liberal land of insanity, what should Apple do about the lack of training and education in the minority community? Throw money at the problem? Make sure that colleges are accepting people based on race? Didn't we just deal with this issue in the Supreme Court?

Seems to me that Apple is doing what it plans to do to try and help the situation... tell those people that if they go into the fields they are hiring that they want to diversify their workforce to make it more even. It is good publicity that may bring about more non-white males into those degree programs.

1. Not if that person isn't qualified to design the product.
2. Your second paragraph only states the obvious. How are they going to do that when the pool of eligibles consists of a bunch of white guys?
3. Why does it matter what color the person is? Shouldn't the position be filled by the most qualified person?

This is why liberalism is a flawed ideology and destroys societies.

I give up.

You guys know everything about international business so you should take over your own multinational and show everyone how all you need is American white males to tell the world what it should like.