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(08-14-2014 11:25 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Try streaming a college basketball game. They are all in Flash. I'll take my chance with the Malware and my Armor for Android. An SD card is useless if you can't write to it. I have used Android for 5 years now and never gotten a virus.

WatchESPN has its own app. Time Warner Cable has its own app. NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime... all have apps.

The only places that stream it over Flash are sites streaming illegally or small colleges that have not upgraded their sites to support HTML5.

And Google has published all kinds of information regarding malware attacking Android. Some have even made it on to their app store for periods of time, others are installed by users who install apps outside of the app store.

There are workarounds for the SD card issue. It is the file security that you need to update. Personally, as someone who works in IT security, I applaud them for the changes they've made to their architecture as that is the way it should be.
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(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Diversity is good when it isn't forced. Today, diversity simply means less white people. What's so sick about it is white people are the ones pushing it. They need to stop talking about it and allow things to occur naturally.

Making companies hire based on race is wrong and it is bad for the company.

The CEO is making the right decision... plain and simple. He is talking about it in the media because he wants the minorities to seek out employment as his company so they can have their pick of the litter. He doesn't want Google, or Amazon, or Twitter, or anyone else to get to those potential employees first.
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(08-14-2014 11:29 AM)mlb Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:25 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Try streaming a college basketball game. They are all in Flash. I'll take my chance with the Malware and my Armor for Android. An SD card is useless if you can't write to it. I have used Android for 5 years now and never gotten a virus.

WatchESPN has its own app. Time Warner Cable has its own app. NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime... all have apps.

The only places that stream it over Flash are sites streaming illegally or small colleges that have not upgraded their sites to support HTML5.

And Google has published all kinds of information regarding malware attacking Android. Some have even made it on to their app store for periods of time, others are installed by users who install apps outside of the app store.

There are workarounds for the SD card issue. It is the file security that you need to update. Personally, as someone who works in IT security, I applaud them for the changes they've made to their architecture as that is the way it should be.

ODU isn't on TV or ESPN3 nearly as much as Cincy. If we have 15 away games in a season, I will have to stream at least 10 of them and I will have to do it on firstrowsports or something similar. They all use Flash. Not saying everyone needs it, but not having it causes me problems.
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It will be much easier to follow ODU going forward.
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(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Other than the Dell laptop my job provides, I haven't owned a PC in 5 years. Yeah, Mac probably makes a better one, but it isn't worth $2,000 for me. I'd rather pick a PC up on craigslist for $100, that way, it it crashes or fries, no big deal, I'll get another.

I have very nice Dell PCs and have for the past 10 years (I gave up building, too much trouble with drivers and such). Never had a problem that wasn't an easy fix.

That being said, I don't install all the stupid toolbars in my browser, I don't go to porn sites or look for pirated software or go to the sites illegally reboardcasting sports (or PPV) or anything like that.

Going to any site that provides illegal streams is asking for trouble... as they are only there to get money from their advertising. If they can get you to install a piece of malware they get even more money for your visit to their site. Flash is the number 1 way to infect a PC, hence everyone movie away from it (youtube was 1 of the first to got to HTML5).
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(08-14-2014 11:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  ODU isn't on TV or ESPN3 nearly as much as Cincy. If we have 15 away games in a season, I will have to stream at least 10 of them and I will have to do it on firstrowsports or something similar. They all use Flash. Not saying everyone needs it, but not having it causes me problems.

Firstrowsports has all kinds of malware all over the place. I'd be careful with it.

ODU should be upgrading their site to HTML5. I know their budget is smaller, but it still should happen.

I understand your pain... but you are in the minority who actually wants/needs flash on their phone/tablet. Most are happy without it any more and Google is happy to not have to deal with all the security risks associated with flash support.
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(08-14-2014 11:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Diversity is good when it isn't forced. Today, diversity simply means less white people. What's so sick about it is white people are the ones pushing it. They need to stop talking about it and allow things to occur naturally.

Making companies hire based on race is wrong and it is bad for the company.

The CEO is making the right decision... plain and simple. He is talking about it in the media because he wants the minorities to seek out employment as his company so they can have their pick of the litter. He doesn't want Google, or Amazon, or Twitter, or anyone else to get to those potential employees first.

It's not about making sure minorities know they can apply for employment at Apple. It's that minorities aren't seeking an education in areas that afford them the skills to work these kinds of jobs.

It's about hiring minorities over more qualified people based on their skin color.

That is wrong and you know that.
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(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 10:02 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:53 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:46 AM)mlb Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 08:31 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  All I can say is I have never had a second of problem with any of the 8 products I have purchased from Apple. Quality,functionality and esthetics....all rolled together IMO. The battery finally gave out on my oldest clickwheel Ipod that my daughter gave me. I bought a replacement battery one Ebay and installed it myself for 10 bucks. Works like brand new again. If Apple is a Liberal company?...then it is a Liberal success. Leave it to Okie to troll us and make a poor attempt at bashing an American success story.

Stupid liberal. 03-lmfao

I hate Apple, the only product I have is an iPad 2 because my company bought it for me.

We are mainly a Windows/Linux shop here, but do have a number of Apple devices around. The employees here are overwhelmingly conservative (we are right next to an Air Force base and in SW Ohio, known to be very conservative) but they love their Apple products. The CEO has 4 iPads, his entire family uses iPhones, and he has a Mac Book.

He also comes into my office once a week bitching about Obama.

I think that Apple has plenty of "conservative" followers.

On a side note, Rush Limbaugh uses an iPhone.

http://macdailynews.com/2012/04/18/rush-...s-morning/

A lot of country club conservatives and social climbers indeed use Apple. After all, it is nothing but a status symbol.

In all fairness Android is in the process of ruining themselves as well. 4.1 stopped supporting flash making most streaming sites unusable and now 4.4 takes away the ability to write to SD. Of course Apple has neither of these functions anyway and they can be fairly easily overcome by jailbreaking via Towelroot, but still.

At my age...all I want is something that works and is easy to operate. I am not concerned with the machinations of the technology you describe. Apple fits that bill. I gave my 80 year old Mom an IMac. She learned to use it in two days and loves it. She comments all the time that it never crashes like her previous Dell PC.

Other than the Dell laptop my job provides, I haven't owned a PC in 5 years. Yeah, Mac probably makes a better one, but it isn't worth $2,000 for me. I'd rather pick a PC up on craigslist for $100, that way, it it crashes or fries, no big deal, I'll get another.

I would not argue about the cost. They are for sure overpriced. I have to say though...buying one for my Mom has saved me lots of headaches. I can't count the number of hours I have spent straightening out some mess she created on her Dell. It was well worth the money.
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(08-14-2014 11:34 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It will be much easier to follow ODU going forward.

Football will no longer be of issue, but basketball will still be difficult.
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(08-14-2014 11:55 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's not about making sure minorities know they can apply for employment at Apple. It's that minorities aren't seeking an education in areas that afford them the skills to work these kinds of jobs.

It's about hiring minorities over more qualified people based on their skin color.

That is wrong and you know that.

That is your opinion... not mine. It is about finding a skillset that their company needs from a background that they would like to tap into. That is in many cases a subset of the skills they are looking for.

I'm a white male with a degree in what Apple specializes in. I'm in no way offended or concerned about their hiring practices.
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(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:23 AM)mlb Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:02 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  They indeed build apps and other application in Silicone Valley. The advertising agency they use is TBWA\\Media Arts Lab.

So what is your point? That Apple discriminates?

Not at all. I think their numbers are better than I would have expected, to be perfectly honest with you.

I just don't understand why you always get your panties in a wad about this stuff. Diversity is a good thing because it allows people to come up with alternative ideas based on their background. Sometimes that is the best way to find the solution to a problem... brainstorming with people from multiple backgrounds to create a great solution.

If I were a CEO of a very large corporation that sells to every background imaginable I'd be looking for diversity as well in order to make sure that I have input coming from as many of the customer backgrounds as possible. That way you can create and market products that is great for everyone, not just one area.

Diversity is good when it isn't forced. Today, diversity simply means less white people. What's so sick about it is white people are the ones pushing it. They need to stop talking about it and allow things to occur naturally.

Making companies hire based on race is wrong and it is bad for the company.

Nothing in that article suggests that diversity is being forced at Apple. It just seems to be the direction that they want to take.
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(08-14-2014 11:35 AM)mlb Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Other than the Dell laptop my job provides, I haven't owned a PC in 5 years. Yeah, Mac probably makes a better one, but it isn't worth $2,000 for me. I'd rather pick a PC up on craigslist for $100, that way, it it crashes or fries, no big deal, I'll get another.

I have very nice Dell PCs and have for the past 10 years (I gave up building, too much trouble with drivers and such). Never had a problem that wasn't an easy fix.

That being said, I don't install all the stupid toolbars in my browser, I don't go to porn sites or look for pirated software or go to the sites illegally reboardcasting sports (or PPV) or anything like that.

Going to any site that provides illegal streams is asking for trouble... as they are only there to get money from their advertising. If they can get you to install a piece of malware they get even more money for your visit to their site. Flash is the number 1 way to infect a PC, hence everyone movie away from it (youtube was 1 of the first to got to HTML5).

It is what it is. Android is less vulnerable than a PC. All you have to do is delete a file, no registry infection to worry about. Never had an issue, but yeah, I wouldn't go to the site on a PC.
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(08-14-2014 12:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:23 AM)mlb Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:02 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  They indeed build apps and other application in Silicone Valley. The advertising agency they use is TBWA\\Media Arts Lab.

So what is your point? That Apple discriminates?

Not at all. I think their numbers are better than I would have expected, to be perfectly honest with you.

I just don't understand why you always get your panties in a wad about this stuff. Diversity is a good thing because it allows people to come up with alternative ideas based on their background. Sometimes that is the best way to find the solution to a problem... brainstorming with people from multiple backgrounds to create a great solution.

If I were a CEO of a very large corporation that sells to every background imaginable I'd be looking for diversity as well in order to make sure that I have input coming from as many of the customer backgrounds as possible. That way you can create and market products that is great for everyone, not just one area.

Diversity is good when it isn't forced. Today, diversity simply means less white people. What's so sick about it is white people are the ones pushing it. They need to stop talking about it and allow things to occur naturally.

Making companies hire based on race is wrong and it is bad for the company.

Nothing in that article suggests that diversity is being forced at Apple. It just seems to be the direction that they want to take.

So how is Apple going to make more minorities seek degrees and training in the spots they need filled?
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(08-14-2014 12:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So how is Apple going to make more minorities seek degrees and training in the spots they need filled?

If you hear in the media that Apple wants to hire a more diverse background of engineers and you are a minority, don't you think that might make you decide to go to that direction?

If you are about to graduate from college and you are a minority, and you have a degree in a field that Apple is hiring don't you think that might cause you to submit your resume?

This is all about generating PR so that Apple can attempt to have first choice for those people. Plain and simple.
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(08-14-2014 12:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:23 AM)mlb Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:02 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  They indeed build apps and other application in Silicone Valley. The advertising agency they use is TBWA\\Media Arts Lab.

So what is your point? That Apple discriminates?

Not at all. I think their numbers are better than I would have expected, to be perfectly honest with you.

I just don't understand why you always get your panties in a wad about this stuff. Diversity is a good thing because it allows people to come up with alternative ideas based on their background. Sometimes that is the best way to find the solution to a problem... brainstorming with people from multiple backgrounds to create a great solution.

If I were a CEO of a very large corporation that sells to every background imaginable I'd be looking for diversity as well in order to make sure that I have input coming from as many of the customer backgrounds as possible. That way you can create and market products that is great for everyone, not just one area.

Diversity is good when it isn't forced. Today, diversity simply means less white people. What's so sick about it is white people are the ones pushing it. They need to stop talking about it and allow things to occur naturally.

Making companies hire based on race is wrong and it is bad for the company.

Nothing in that article suggests that diversity is being forced at Apple. It just seems to be the direction that they want to take.

So how is Apple going to make more minorities seek degrees and training in the spots they need filled?

They aren't. It just looks like a long term strategy for them going forward.
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(08-14-2014 12:19 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:23 AM)mlb Wrote:  Not at all. I think their numbers are better than I would have expected, to be perfectly honest with you.

I just don't understand why you always get your panties in a wad about this stuff. Diversity is a good thing because it allows people to come up with alternative ideas based on their background. Sometimes that is the best way to find the solution to a problem... brainstorming with people from multiple backgrounds to create a great solution.

If I were a CEO of a very large corporation that sells to every background imaginable I'd be looking for diversity as well in order to make sure that I have input coming from as many of the customer backgrounds as possible. That way you can create and market products that is great for everyone, not just one area.

Diversity is good when it isn't forced. Today, diversity simply means less white people. What's so sick about it is white people are the ones pushing it. They need to stop talking about it and allow things to occur naturally.

Making companies hire based on race is wrong and it is bad for the company.

Nothing in that article suggests that diversity is being forced at Apple. It just seems to be the direction that they want to take.

So how is Apple going to make more minorities seek degrees and training in the spots they need filled?

They aren't. It just looks like a long term strategy for them going forward.

OK. Strategy. Ideas? How do you think they will fix their little diversity problem? Just guess at the most logical approach...
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(08-14-2014 12:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:19 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 11:28 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Diversity is good when it isn't forced. Today, diversity simply means less white people. What's so sick about it is white people are the ones pushing it. They need to stop talking about it and allow things to occur naturally.

Making companies hire based on race is wrong and it is bad for the company.

Nothing in that article suggests that diversity is being forced at Apple. It just seems to be the direction that they want to take.

So how is Apple going to make more minorities seek degrees and training in the spots they need filled?

They aren't. It just looks like a long term strategy for them going forward.

OK. Strategy. Ideas? How do you think they will fix their little diversity problem? Just guess at the most logical approach...

I have no idea Okie. I don't blaze the web for ever story that has a hint of Liberal slant and try to read things into it. I just don't care.07-coffee3
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(08-14-2014 12:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:19 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Nothing in that article suggests that diversity is being forced at Apple. It just seems to be the direction that they want to take.

So how is Apple going to make more minorities seek degrees and training in the spots they need filled?

They aren't. It just looks like a long term strategy for them going forward.

OK. Strategy. Ideas? How do you think they will fix their little diversity problem? Just guess at the most logical approach...

I have no idea Okie. I don't blaze the web for ever story that has a hint of Liberal slant and try to read things into it. I just don't care.07-coffee3

You cared enough to post and suggest it is the right decision.

I'm just wondering why you think giving people preference based on color of skin is a solution.
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(08-14-2014 12:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm just wondering why you think giving people preference based on color of skin is a solution.

Do you honestly think that a company full of white males is going to be able to fully relate and design products for black and hispanic American's, let alone all the people of Asia, Europe, and Africa (yes, they do design for Africa as well)?
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(08-14-2014 12:38 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 12:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm just wondering why you think giving people preference based on color of skin is a solution.

Do you honestly think that a company full of white males is going to be able to fully relate and design products for black and hispanic American's, let alone all the people of Asia, Europe, and Africa (yes, they do design for Africa as well)?

Do you realize how racist this comment is?

The answer is yes.

You have veered off topic again. How is Apple going to bring more minorities into its organization.
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