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Re: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
No. I want marijuana legalized. People are responsible for the spread of HIV... Not needles. Kinda of like people kill people... Not guns.
BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 07:22 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: No. I want marijuana legalized. People are responsible for the spread of HIV... Not needles. Kinda of like people kill people... Not guns.
But you're missing my entire argument, and that's main issue I have with most libertarians; they're entirely shortsighted and focused on how things affect them right now.
Instead of viewing the thought of taxes going to help cover the costs of needles as 'STEALING MY MONEY FOR LOWLIFES, IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY!!1!11', come to the realization that no ones saying it's your 'responsibility', we're arguing that paying for those needles will save on an absurdly higher level of cost associated with things that *ARE* your responsibility to pay for as a citizen (mainly, the societal cost incurred from infectious diseases and the cost of putting someone in prison).
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 10:26 AM)UCF08 Wrote: (07-03-2012 07:22 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: No. I want marijuana legalized. People are responsible for the spread of HIV... Not needles. Kinda of like people kill people... Not guns.
But you're missing my entire argument, and that's main issue I have with most libertarians; they're entirely shortsighted and focused on how things affect them right now.
Instead of viewing the thought of taxes going to help cover the costs of needles as 'STEALING MY MONEY FOR LOWLIFES, IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY!!1!11', come to the realization that no ones saying it's your 'responsibility', we're arguing that paying for those needles will save on an absurdly higher level of cost associated with things that *ARE* your responsibility to pay for as a citizen (mainly, the societal cost incurred from infectious diseases and the cost of putting someone in prison).
We could just shoot them all. /RobertN response
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Re: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
Google - personal responsibility. Does taking my money for causes you deem worthy make you feel charitable?
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 11:25 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: Google - personal responsibility. Does taking my money for causes you deem worthy make you feel charitable?
Thank you for proving my point exactly concerning the short-sighted and idiotic nature of many
I AM NOT SAYING IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, I AM SAYING IT IS FISCALLY ADVANTAGEOUS TO PAY FOR SUCH THINGS NOW AS THEY ARE A CHEAP WAY TO PREVENT MANY OF THE HIGH COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS THAT *ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY*
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 11:28 AM)UCF08 Wrote: (07-03-2012 11:25 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: Google - personal responsibility. Does taking my money for causes you deem worthy make you feel charitable?
Thank you for proving my point exactly concerning the short-sighted and idiotic nature of many
I AM NOT SAYING IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, I AM SAYING IT IS FISCALLY ADVANTAGEOUS TO PAY FOR SUCH THINGS NOW AS THEY ARE A CHEAP WAY TO PREVENT MANY OF THE HIGH COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS THAT *ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY*
List the things you think are my responsibility. Please.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 10:30 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote: (07-03-2012 10:26 AM)UCF08 Wrote: (07-03-2012 07:22 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: No. I want marijuana legalized. People are responsible for the spread of HIV... Not needles. Kinda of like people kill people... Not guns.
But you're missing my entire argument, and that's main issue I have with most libertarians; they're entirely shortsighted and focused on how things affect them right now.
Instead of viewing the thought of taxes going to help cover the costs of needles as 'STEALING MY MONEY FOR LOWLIFES, IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY!!1!11', come to the realization that no ones saying it's your 'responsibility', we're arguing that paying for those needles will save on an absurdly higher level of cost associated with things that *ARE* your responsibility to pay for as a citizen (mainly, the societal cost incurred from infectious diseases and the cost of putting someone in prison).
We could just shoot them all. /RobertN response
I might say that as a joke due to a number of posters on here(Rebel comes to mind) who would shoot or nuke anyone he doesn't agree with.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 12:44 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: (07-03-2012 11:28 AM)UCF08 Wrote: (07-03-2012 11:25 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: Google - personal responsibility. Does taking my money for causes you deem worthy make you feel charitable?
Thank you for proving my point exactly concerning the short-sighted and idiotic nature of many
I AM NOT SAYING IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, I AM SAYING IT IS FISCALLY ADVANTAGEOUS TO PAY FOR SUCH THINGS NOW AS THEY ARE A CHEAP WAY TO PREVENT MANY OF THE HIGH COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS THAT *ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY*
List the things you think are my responsibility. Please.
In this instance, prisons and the costs associated with keeping infectious diseases at bay. No, I'm not talking about HIV itself, but instead the creation and spread of antibiotic resistant bacterium. Though, if you knew a little more about viral pathology you'd realize it's really not a smart idea to not try and limit the number of carriers of lethal immuno viruses, because viruses don't seem to care whether or not paying for needles is your 'responsibility'.
Your absurd rigidity to the "NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY, WON'T PAY FOR IT, IT'S STEALING" ideology is my main problem with many libertarians. I'm not saying it's your responsibility, I'm saying it's a pragmatic and cost-effective solution to a potentially massive problem.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
If AIDS carriers were treated like Lepars, it wouldn't require my tax dollars. Go tell that to the libtards who marginalize the disease by perpetuating the hood mentality.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 07:03 AM)UCF08 Wrote: And providing needles to limit the spread of HIV is a no brainer from a long-term cost effectiveness standpoint. It's along the same line of providing state subsidized birth control, it's got a great return on investment.
It is just too simple and obvious a concept
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 03:59 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote: If AIDS carriers were treated like Lepars, it wouldn't require my tax dollars. Go tell that to the libtards who marginalize the disease by perpetuating the hood mentality.
And who is going to pay for the colonies?
Maybe we can just call them concentration camps.
Let's put others there too - gun owners, smokers, Republicans - you know, all those things that are a detrement to a healthy society.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 03:59 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote: If AIDS carriers were treated like Lepars, it wouldn't require my tax dollars. Go tell that to the libtards who marginalize the disease by perpetuating the hood mentality.
Because confining all carriers into an area where the different mutations of the virus can replicate and trade genetic material can in no way end badly.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
Hey I like my guns thank you very much hah.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 02:34 PM)UCF08 Wrote: (07-03-2012 12:44 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: (07-03-2012 11:28 AM)UCF08 Wrote: (07-03-2012 11:25 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: Google - personal responsibility. Does taking my money for causes you deem worthy make you feel charitable?
Thank you for proving my point exactly concerning the short-sighted and idiotic nature of many
I AM NOT SAYING IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, I AM SAYING IT IS FISCALLY ADVANTAGEOUS TO PAY FOR SUCH THINGS NOW AS THEY ARE A CHEAP WAY TO PREVENT MANY OF THE HIGH COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS THAT *ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY*
List the things you think are my responsibility. Please.
In this instance, prisons and the costs associated with keeping infectious diseases at bay. No, I'm not talking about HIV itself, but instead the creation and spread of antibiotic resistant bacterium. Though, if you knew a little more about viral pathology you'd realize it's really not a smart idea to not try and limit the number of carriers of lethal immuno viruses, because viruses don't seem to care whether or not paying for needles is your 'responsibility'.
Your absurd rigidity to the "NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY, WON'T PAY FOR IT, IT'S STEALING" ideology is my main problem with many libertarians. I'm not saying it's your responsibility, I'm saying it's a pragmatic and cost-effective solution to a potentially massive problem.
I don't mind paying for prisons.
If they get an infectious disease let them die. Not my problem.
My rigidity is a byproduct of you being so generous with my money.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
Quote:I don't mind paying for prisons.
You don't mind paying for prisons? You know how much birth control can be bought by simply not having to incarcerate a single person? What about this concept don't you understand?
Quote:If they get an infectious disease let them die. Not my problem.
Looking past the sociopathic qualities espoused by this statement, you clearly don't understand the dangers antibiotic resistant bacteria pose to the general public, not too mention the dangers of not limiting the carriers of a dangerous immuno virus like HIV. If you want no responsibility for paying for society at all outside of what you directly use/consume, move to Somalia.
Quote:My rigidity is a byproduct of you being so generous with my money.
Everything I've posted about in this thread will actually save significant money in the long run, sh*t for brains.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
Quote:If they get an infectious disease let them die. Not my problem.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 04:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (07-03-2012 03:59 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote: If AIDS carriers were treated like Lepars, it wouldn't require my tax dollars. Go tell that to the libtards who marginalize the disease by perpetuating the hood mentality.
And who is going to pay for the colonies?
Maybe we can just call them concentration camps.
Let's put others there too - gun owners, smokers, Republicans - you know, all those things that are a detrement to a healthy society.
I was thinking along the lines of AIDS tattooed on their foreheads. I'll be happy to chip in for that.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-03-2012 09:42 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote: (07-03-2012 04:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (07-03-2012 03:59 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote: If AIDS carriers were treated like Lepars, it wouldn't require my tax dollars. Go tell that to the libtards who marginalize the disease by perpetuating the hood mentality.
And who is going to pay for the colonies?
Maybe we can just call them concentration camps.
Let's put others there too - gun owners, smokers, Republicans - you know, all those things that are a detrement to a healthy society.
I was thinking along the lines of AIDS tattooed on their foreheads. I'll be happy to chip in for that.
Hell of an idea. Tats are already popular. They can then get some Neck Tats to complement the forehead art.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
Wow. Some of you guys apparently have never had someone close to you die of something communicable.
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RE: War on Drugs leading to more HIV/AIDS
(07-04-2012 08:46 AM)Smaug Wrote: Wow. Some of you guys apparently have never had someone close to you die of something communicable.
Obviously, just joking.........doesn't always carry over to type written words.
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