I think UCF fans need to lay off on this. This kind of stuff can happen to any player in any school.

KnightLight Wrote:http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/bloggers/charles-rich/

Here's his stories on Big East Football and Hoops over the past week, plus comments about BCS Bowl Games as well.

The truly sad part about this is that the ONLY reason this post was made and this blog was linked to this board was to get a dig in at USF.

You try and disguise a post that was motivated by anti-USF sentiment as simply another blog about the Big East - rather than call it for what it is.

You are pathetic.

This situation will play itself out, possibly resulting in NCAA sanctions for USF. It could happen anywhere. Since it is happening at USF, I have serious concerns that it will result in the NCAA taking a much harder look at this than they do when it happens at THE Ohio State University.

After all, they failed to nail the Buckeyes once again for their most recent numerous known and documented violations because they are one of the premier institutions. But with USF being a fledgling program, you can bet if they document anything the Bulls will not go unscathed.

However, if you are going to revel in this possibility, shouldn't you be more open and honest about it?

Again, you are pathetic.

Cheers,
Neil

The the thing with KnightLight is that he is not very honest with himself, so why should his posting style be any different?

omnicarrier Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/bloggers/charles-rich/

Here's his stories on Big East Football and Hoops over the past week, plus comments about BCS Bowl Games as well.

The truly sad part about this is that the ONLY reason this post was made and this blog was linked to this board was to get a dig in at USF.

You try and disguise a post that was motivated by anti-USF sentiment as simply another blog about the Big East - rather than call it for what it is.

You are pathetic.

This situation will play itself out, possibly resulting in NCAA sanctions for USF. It could happen anywhere. Since it is happening at USF, I have serious concerns that it will result in the NCAA taking a much harder look at this than they do when it happens at THE Ohio State University.

After all, they failed to nail the Buckeyes once again for their most recent numerous known and documented violations because they are one of the premier institutions. But with USF being a fledgling program, you can bet if they document anything the Bulls will not go unscathed.

However, if you are going to revel in this possibility, shouldn't you be more open and honest about it?

Again, you are pathetic.

Cheers,
Neil

Omni is one of the most respected and reasonable posters on this board. When he is fed up enough to call you pathetic, then you really do have an image problem on these message boards.

give it up man and stop being so transparent and take your petty #@#@@!E#@ back over to the Cusa board.

bearcatfan Wrote:

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:To be fair we are not the ones caught cheating, lying, and being dead beat dads. It is actually news worthy. There is now articles about this from Florida to NY.

You guys sure had fun with the cheating scandal at FSU. All cheaters should be punished.

Why don't you just create your own USF news blog instead of posting a link to an article about it in a new thread every 5 minutes?

ucIF fans =

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:UCF fans are truly pitiful. Every time I see this kind of crap from you guys it just reinforces my feelings that I hope that I never have to call you folks BE bretheren.

To be fair we are not the ones caught cheating, lying, and being dead beat dads. It is actually news worthy. There is now articles about this from Florida to NY.

You guys sure had fun with the cheating scandal at FSU. All cheaters should be punished.

But you are the ones that make yourselves look like petty little men.
Regarding the FSU cheating scandal, we didnt care enough about it to go to their boards and harass them, nor any other acc boards. Really, we didnt care much about it at all.

cuseroc Wrote:But you are the ones that make yourselves look like petty little men.
Regarding the FSU cheating scandal, we didnt care enough about it to go to their boards and harass them, nor any other acc boards. Really, we didnt care much about it at all.

Simply put, I don't think there is a set of fans on the internet more eaten up with jealousy, obsession, and a Napoleon complex than UCF fans when it comes to USF. Sure, other fan bases have the obsession, but UCF fans take the cake with the above trio. They just look sad. I feel sorry for them because even after being told time after time they don't realize how bush league they look.

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:

bearcatfan Wrote:Why don't you just create your own USF news blog instead of posting a link to an article about it in a new thread every 5 minutes?

Honestly I do feel bad for the kids and feel for her if she was really left with no money and the kids.

You are a first class idiot and a liar. You don't know Moffit's wife, Ben Moffit, or his kids and you could care less about any of them. You have no idea what happened in their marriage either. Just because he wants a divorce does not make him a bad guy. I cheat on my crossword puzzles and look up answers on line. Universities are stupid with these online courses that have zero oversight, and just because she said something (during a divorce or separation) does not make it true. How much money have you given poor Ms. Moffitt? Are you now big brother to the these poor fatherless kids?

Mrs. Moffitt has a job and she has income. A college football players residential stipend is not much money. Frankly she should refrain from ripping her husband in the newspapers. He is a college player. You feel bad for her and the kids.........no I am not buying that.

mlb Wrote:Until someone is implicated that is associated with the University I'm not sure how he can say major NCAA violations. If it comes out that they knew, then obviously there will be some big issues. At that point Leavitt will be out of a job, I would guess.

It is nice that every time something negative happens about USF the UCF fans come over here and let us all know. Never seen a fan base so dedicated to making sure every negative thing that happens at a school is reported on the conference message board.

Still won't help get UCF into the Big East as well.

UCF fans are obsessed with USF and the Big East. It's nice being in a BCS conference, but now we see what fans of other BCS conference programs have had to put up with for years.

SF Husky Wrote:I think UCF fans need to lay off on this. This kind of stuff can happen to any player in any school.

You know, it's funny. A couple of months ago a couple of C-USA schools got into trouble and C-USA fans came out running saying it could happen at any school it's on the kid. Now they're over here whining about USF and blaming USf. Hypocrisy.

You know I could even understand UCF fans posting on their boards and having a laugh at it. But what I find totally pathetic is their need to go all over different Rivals boards and boards like this one posting crap about it. Expanding on the accusations and acting holier than thou.

That is the more I interact on these boards the more I dislike that school and want NOTHING to do with them. I was all up for playing them in basketball and could see us playing them in football on and off. But now I will tell you as a season ticket holder I will make my voice heard to end all athletic contacts with them. Im glad we are ending football next year and I really hope we never play them again.

Neil,

Sad to see that you are an abator.

Kill the messenger but not the message.

No he saw the REAL you. You guys are gloating at the news of a USF player in trouble and couldnt careless about her and the kids. In fact there was a hell of a long thread in your Rivals board about his wife and laughing at her looks when we played you guys.

So spare me the fake tears, whats happening to him and his family is horrible and the fact that its been made into a public show is worse and you and your buddies have taken upon yourselves to blast it all over the internet.

So dont try to come on this board and tell us that you are just the messenger and care about her and the kids because in reality what you want is for it to continue to escalate so it brings more negative attention to USF and who cares if the kids are affected by it all.

KL has his own issues...

KnightLight Wrote:Neil,

Sad to see that you are an abator.

Kill the messenger but not the message.

What I am nailing you for is not OWNING the message. You attempted to "disguise" it in a generic post about the Big East (which is a conference, not a single team) and BCS Bowls.

You know why you linked that blog and so does everyone else. So why run from it? Be a man, own up to it, and title the post - USF's Moffitt Suspected of Cheating.

The way you did it was - to put it bluntly - pathetic and weak.

Cheers,
Neil

omnicarrier Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:Neil,

Sad to see that you are an abator.

Kill the messenger but not the message.

What I am nailing you for is not OWNING the message. You attempted to "disguise" it in a generic post about the Big East (which is a conference, not a single team) and BCS Bowls.

You know why you linked that blog and so does everyone else. So why run from it? Be a man, own up to it, and title the post - USF's Moffitt Suspected of Cheating.
The way you did it was - to put it bluntly - pathetic and weak.

Cheers,
Neil

Sorry you didn't get it, (you usually do).

The AOL Big East Blog had only minor details to the USF situation plus had other articles on other Big East Teams.

I choose that one on purpose since it included all the other Big East Team info and didn't have all the damaging evidence as say the Tampa Tribune article from earlier today (http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/04/...es-bulls).

Thought this would help lead the topic into a discussion about:

1) Should someone (NCAA, journalists or other organization) re-examine every major football program's academic standards and practices?

2) Should Div I-A Scholarship football players be allowed to take online classes?

3) If online classes are allowed, should every school follow FSU's new requirement that all online course exams be taken in a proctored testing center on campus with ID checks at the door?

4) Prior to this incident, I'm sure some FLA journalist, because of the FSU scandal, was going to investigate every FLA football program online course classwork and how many football players took online courses.

5) Schools are in a Catch-22 as online courses offer HUGE profit margins for institutions since no classroom space needs to be reserved 2-3 days per week and literally hundreds and hundreds of students will pay full tuition to take an "online" course.

Again Neil, I'm surprised you missed that.

KnightLight Wrote:

omnicarrier Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:Neil,

Sad to see that you are an abator.

Kill the messenger but not the message.

What I am nailing you for is not OWNING the message. You attempted to "disguise" it in a generic post about the Big East (which is a conference, not a single team) and BCS Bowls.

You know why you linked that blog and so does everyone else. So why run from it? Be a man, own up to it, and title the post - USF's Moffitt Suspected of Cheating.
The way you did it was - to put it bluntly - pathetic and weak.

Cheers,
Neil

Sorry you didn't get it, (you usually do).

The AOL Big East Blog had only minor details to the USF situation plus had other articles on other Big East Teams.

I choose that one on purpose since it included all the other info and didn't have all the damaging evidence as say the Tampa Tribune article from earlier today (http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/04/...es-bulls).

Thought this would help lead the topic into a discussion about:

1) Should someone (NCAA, journalists or other organization) re-examine every major football program's academic standards and practices?

2) Should Div I-A Scholarship football players be allowed to take online classes?

3) If online classes are allowed, should every school follow FSU's new requirement that all online course exams be taken in a proctored testing center on campus with ID checks at the door?

4) Prior to this incident, I'm sure some FLA journalist, because of the FSU scandal, was going to investigate every FLA football program online course classwork and how many football players took online courses.

5) Schools are in a Catch-22 as online courses offer HUGE profit margins for institutions since no classroom space needs to be reserved 2-3 days per week and literally hundreds and hundreds of students will pay full tuition to take an "online" course.

Again Neil, I'm surprised you missed that.

I'm surprised that you are still trying to defend your petty actions. You have been exposed, not that someone needed to expose you, since you were so very transparent. The jig is up. Just admot you were stupid and move on.

omnicarrier Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:Neil,

Sad to see that you are an abator.

Kill the messenger but not the message.

What I am nailing you for is not OWNING the message. You attempted to "disguise" it in a generic post about the Big East (which is a conference, not a single team) and BCS Bowls.

You know why you linked that blog and so does everyone else. So why run from it? Be a man, own up to it, and title the post - USF's Moffitt Suspected of Cheating.

The way you did it was - to put it bluntly - pathetic and weak.

Cheers,
Neil

He did the same thing a few months ago when he took an article about Cincinnati season ticket sales and claimed he was being a "messenger" yet used it to trash the Cincinnati program. Of course the season tickets ended up being close to twice the number posted, but he used it as a way to trash Cincinnati on this board AND the C-USA board. We know what he's all about.

KnightLight Wrote:1) Should someone (NCAA, journalists or other organization) re-examine every major football program's academic standards and practices?
that's the NCAA's whole purpose

2) Should Div I-A Scholarship football players be allowed to take online classes?
yes, online classes are an inevitability, almost all classes use or are capable of using onlines functions

3) If online classes are allowed, should every school follow FSU's new requirement that all online course exams be taken in a proctored testing center on campus with ID checks at the door?
yes, they should have been doing that anyway; may have exceptions for family death

4) Prior to this incident, I'm sure some FLA journalist, because of the FSU scandal, was going to investigate every FLA football program online course classwork and how many football players took online courses.
They gots to get paid! But one wonders if someone will care about UCF...

5) Schools are in a Catch-22 as online courses offer HUGE profit margins for institutions since no classroom space needs to be reserved 2-3 days per week and literally hundreds and hundreds of students will pay full tuition to take an "online" course.
You'll have to excuse everyone. UCF posters can be a nuisance on this board, and linking directly to some crap about USF for no other reason than to be annoying.

Back to the point, finding rooms for athletes to take a test is not hard to do, and should have already been instituted. Papers just have to be emailed in.