(07-15-2017 11:14 AM)SDHornet Wrote: The BSC actions regarding our FB only membership (or lack thereof) is all the evidence needed...and the heavy recruitment of CA by the BSC members and the BSC's ability to sell a trip "home" to recruits.
You already have all the evidence you need to convince yourself you know the truth. And you won't accept anyone criticizing your theories.
There is nothing I can say. But I know you haven't proven anything.
(07-16-2017 12:50 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote: Reading the Argus Leader story, it sounds like Augustana would rather stay a big fish in a small pond than move up to D-I.
(07-16-2017 06:37 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote: Or it sounds like a school that knows where its right place is.
-OR- (my wild guess)
Augi was legitimately interesting in moving to DI and joining the Summit. But S Dak St said something to the effect of " ... uh ... where were you 15 years ago when we were trying to get the NCC to move up together as a conference?? Sorry, but we're good splitting the state with USD. If you want to move up and join the WAC, knock yourself out. But you ain't getting into the Summit." And they quickly got the support of the other Dakota flagships and Omaha, and send that message to the Summit commissioner. And he was forced to tell Augi, "I like you, and we need another member, but my hands are tied. Sorry!"
(07-16-2017 05:51 PM)Stugray2 Wrote: To SoCalBobcat
WAC contract called for Chicago State to:
* Significantly increase athletic budget (it's actually much smaller, less than 50% of expected levels)
* Add Men's Soccer to their sponsored sports (DOA, Chicago State's AD forgot and now pushing Pioneer Football pipe dream)
* Increase staffing levels (triple) to WAC average, especially in compliance and support (head count is lower)
* Meet all facilities safety requirements (WAC has open complaint about T&F safety, and others)
By comparison UTRGV has met all these requirements, adding Men's and Women's soccer, upping the budget 150% from when they joined, and increasing staffing to WAC averages (over 20 hires).
In addition to the above non-compliance Chicago State's student enrollment has dropped from 7,850 when they signed the contract to under 3200 now. They have collect $0 in donations, and less than $80K in gate for all sports over the last four years. While Hurd has praised UTRGV as an example of a school that is everything the WAC wants in a partner, and even had them meet with CBU as part of their wooing; when asked to confirm Chicago State's status as a WAC member after 2017-18 he has repeatedly refused to comment, except to say "we are monitoring the situation."
I think there is more than enough evidence Chicago State is not likely to be retained or get a new contract. Where are the 6 votes to keep them going to come from?
I am trusting all this info to be correct. But assuming it is, this is exactly what I'm referring to when I say that it's likely that WAC won't extend Chicago St's membership contract. How could they possibly do that, given this info??
Of course, like I said before, that all goes out the window if they lose a member.
(07-16-2017 11:27 PM)AZcats Wrote: Central Washington has 13 sports (6m/7w) on a budget of $6.5 million. The budget is inflated because they make 3 trips to Alaska each year. Football plays in a 4,000 seat stadium with no permanent restrooms. Men's basketball averages 1,100 attendance. About 60 scholarships are awarded in the entire athletic department with less than 30 for football.
For a D1 move CWU would need: major facility improvements, more than double football scholarships and add scholarships across all sports to D1 levels, add sports, and double the athletic budget.
Please, show us a real action plan that fills those needs in a town of 18,000 people and a county of under 45,000 people. CWU has a lot of competitors; Pullman is 180 miles and Seattle is only 108 miles from campus.
Here's the thing. When you look at Eastern, Central, and even Western Washington, they all kind've look the same from just the institutional profile, number of enrolled students, endowment size, history, etc. And I do think CW has had some success in DII athletics, though no idea if it has been recent or not.
But then you look at a post like yours, and it's so easy to see that there is zero chance that a school like CW will move to DI short of some miracle Bill Gates donation.
And it makes you wonder, really, how the heck EW is where it is and why it isn't in DII.