(07-14-2024 11:05 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:  How long until Dems scrub all their social media dehumanizing Trump, e.g. calling him a Nazi, comparisons to Hitler, existential threat to democracy….

That's the convenient part of social engineering in the age of electronic media. You can delete your sins and pretend they never happened. There is not much in the way of actual print propaganda for which to be held accountable in posterity.

It's as if Amon Goeth from Schindler's List was speaking to the SS troops about the Polish Ghetto in Krakow saying, "After tonight it is all a rumor which has been erased."

Fascism and Communism where exposed in the age of print because rhetoric and propaganda were there for all to see the lies. Today it is ephemeral and easily erased so a new generation falls prey to the same deceit over and over again in a slightly altered fashion.

That’s why I screen shot things from the Left that could be deemed offensive by their standards, especially from elected officials. The reason why is most politicians have interns or low level staffers handling their social media presence. Those individuals are usually purple haired, DIE jihadists or part of the Alphabet Mafia. They usually get triggered as most of them are prone to do then you get the evidence. (If I don’t get the screenshots I know what accounts to follow that do.)

The only time most of the DC crowd looks at their X, FB or Truth accounts is after there’s a controversy.

Once more info comes out about the shooter, the Left will turn him/her/ze into the victim. He/she/Zhe was bullied because he/she/ze was different. Rinse/repeat.

(07-14-2024 11:08 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 07:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  




"My name is Thomas Matthew Crooks, I hate republicans and I hate Trump. And guess what? You got the wrong guy."

What in tarnation is that supposed to mean?

Its almost like he is fleshing out a character.

Maybe its fake, were right at the threshold of them being able to fake anything and it being almost impossible to tell.

This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

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I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Not buying your take on it but if makes you feel better and sleep better at night then ok good for you.

You will never tell me they didn’t know of his whereabouts and like Jack Ruby aka PAWN allowed him to fire knowing full well they’d snuff him so as no loose lips could sink the ship.

In that same line of thinking there's still "loose lips" the shooter was taken out but the two snipers still remain. For your theory to work those two need to be killed. Or those that planned this believe they will never mention it to another person as long as they live.

You are assuming the shooter is the only person that can talk or would talk. If you planned this would you trust the snipers to never in the 30, 40, 50 years they have left to not tell someone?

You would also have to hope the shooter never told anyone about the plan. Even the little bit he knew. So your theory about "loose lips" only attacks it on the slimmest level. Now if it comes out those two snipers were just recently put into that post. I will be willing to accept your line of thought.

But I know if I had put the plan together to kill a former and most likely future President.....

I wouldn't put my life in the hands of two snipers that could at some point talk. Those two if in a conspiracy are only one level up from the shooter

(07-14-2024 11:15 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

You don’t have to plan it. All you have to do is make it easy. What part of that is hard to understand?

While that's a possibility for this to happen "deep state shite" and pull off. Someone would had to target this idiot who took the shot. Not only target him and bring him in but also train him. In that case you would think his social media would be full of bullshite about hate to get noticed for this setup.

Then you would rely on a 20 year old not opening his mouth to anyone about it. Family, friends, whomever. So if the plan was to take out President Trump and kill the shooter. Do you really go with a 20 year old? Or do you go with someone you know will not miss when they take 6 shots?

A plan would need a handful of people close to the Trump SS detail to pull it off. Including the TWO snipers on the roof with the site of that building the shooter was on. But not limited just to them but also their boss and "deep state"

****** work or not doing their job is more believable. But anything is possible with the way people being going after President Trump at a high level in government. I just think when you know you have one try at it....

you don't go with a 20 year old unless it comes out the kid had training and not the average 20 year old.

I think this sums up how I feel. Really sloppy securing of the perimeter. Really sloppy bordering on criminal. However not some vast conspiracy. Here is an insightful interview with Cory Mills a former sniper. Basically the shot was so doable it was sort of hard to miss.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/...ldn-digvid

The shot would have been dead center if Trump hadn't turned to face in the shooter's direction at the right time.

(07-14-2024 10:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

You don’t have to plan it. All you have to do is make it easy. What part of that is hard to understand?

While that's a possibility for this to happen "deep state shite" and pull off. Someone would had to target this idiot who took the shot. Not only target him and bring him in but also train him. In that case you would think his social media would be full of bullshite about hate to get noticed for this setup.

Then you would rely on a 20 year old not opening his mouth to anyone about it. Family, friends, whomever. So if the plan was to take out President Trump and kill the shooter. Do you really go with a 20 year old? Or do you go with someone you know will not miss when they take 6 shots?

A plan would need a handful of people close to the Trump SS detail to pull it off. Including the TWO snipers on the roof with the site of that building the shooter was on. But not limited just to them but also their boss and "deep state"

****** work or not doing their job is more believable. But anything is possible with the way people being going after President Trump at a high level in government. I just think when you know you have one try at it....

you don't go with a 20 year old unless it comes out the kid had training and not the average 20 year old.

Ask yourself this question why does the military recruit 18 yr olds?

Do some research into Nazi Germany 88 squad and let me know the age of these assassins?

(07-14-2024 11:15 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

You don’t have to plan it. All you have to do is make it easy. What part of that is hard to understand?

While that's a possibility for this to happen "deep state shite" and pull off. Someone would had to target this idiot who took the shot. Not only target him and bring him in but also train him. In that case you would think his social media would be full of bullshite about hate to get noticed for this setup.

Then you would rely on a 20 year old not opening his mouth to anyone about it. Family, friends, whomever. So if the plan was to take out President Trump and kill the shooter. Do you really go with a 20 year old? Or do you go with someone you know will not miss when they take 6 shots?

A plan would need a handful of people close to the Trump SS detail to pull it off. Including the TWO snipers on the roof with the site of that building the shooter was on. But not limited just to them but also their boss and "deep state"

****** work or not doing their job is more believable. But anything is possible with the way people being going after President Trump at a high level in government. I just think when you know you have one try at it....

you don't go with a 20 year old unless it comes out the kid had training and not the average 20 year old.

I think this sums up how I feel. Really sloppy securing of the perimeter. Really sloppy bordering on criminal. However not some vast conspiracy. Here is an insightful interview with Cory Mills a former sniper. Basically the shot was so doable it was sort of hard to miss.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/...ldn-digvid

Or how can I reason this away in my mind so I don’t have to face the ugly truth that is sitting on the room

(07-14-2024 10:40 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:30 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Maybe whoever planned the security perimeter sucked. I highly doubt the snipers and agents on the ground were part of a conspiracy. I wonder if the sniper who took the shot raised up because he wanted the view outside of his site. I think he was afraid of a friendly fire incident. Just a guess.

That's possible but he was looking through his scope which put him right there with the shooter. I would be shocked in his training that he wasn't taught no one, not even SS, would have the President in their gun site.

Anything in the direct away from the president should be covered from that side. Not with the president in a cross fire. There's no doubt each and every sniper knows the placement of the others.

Finally I would be shocked if their training doesn't tell them to shoot anyone with a gun sited on the president if that person is not in one of those placements. But like you said I believe he "thought" instead of using his training.

Possibly. In this climate if he shoots first he probably spends the rest of his life in prison.

(07-14-2024 11:24 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 11:08 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Not buying your take on it but if makes you feel better and sleep better at night then ok good for you.

You will never tell me they didn’t know of his whereabouts and like Jack Ruby aka PAWN allowed him to fire knowing full well they’d snuff him so as no loose lips could sink the ship.

In that same line of thinking there's still "loose lips" the shooter was taken out but the two snipers still remain. For your theory to work those two need to be killed. Or those that planned this believe they will never mention it to another person as long as they live.

You are assuming the shooter is the only person that can talk or would talk. If you planned this would you trust the snipers to never in the 30, 40, 50 years they have left to not tell someone?

You would also have to hope the shooter never told anyone about the plan. Even the little bit he knew. So your theory about "loose lips" only attacks it on the slimmest level. Now if it comes out those two snipers were just recently put into that post. I will be willing to accept your line of thought.

But I know if I had put the plan together to kill a former and most likely future President.....

I wouldn't put my life in the hands of two snipers that could at some point talk. Those two if in a conspiracy are only one level up from the shooter

After the assassination of JFK the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF EVERY SECURITY DETAIL IS TO TAKE OUT ANY AND ALL POINTS OF HIGHER ELEVATION.

You nor anyone else will ever tell me they weren’t aware of a gunman that close on a roof.

If anyone cracks they are dead walking

Stakes are that high

(07-14-2024 11:25 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

You don’t have to plan it. All you have to do is make it easy. What part of that is hard to understand?

While that's a possibility for this to happen "deep state shite" and pull off. Someone would had to target this idiot who took the shot. Not only target him and bring him in but also train him. In that case you would think his social media would be full of bullshite about hate to get noticed for this setup.

Then you would rely on a 20 year old not opening his mouth to anyone about it. Family, friends, whomever. So if the plan was to take out President Trump and kill the shooter. Do you really go with a 20 year old? Or do you go with someone you know will not miss when they take 6 shots?

A plan would need a handful of people close to the Trump SS detail to pull it off. Including the TWO snipers on the roof with the site of that building the shooter was on. But not limited just to them but also their boss and "deep state"

****** work or not doing their job is more believable. But anything is possible with the way people being going after President Trump at a high level in government. I just think when you know you have one try at it....

you don't go with a 20 year old unless it comes out the kid had training and not the average 20 year old.

Ask yourself this question why does the military recruit 18 yr olds?

Do some research into Nazi Germany 88 squad and let me know the age of these assassins?

Of course the younger they are its easier to train and make some believe the cause. The first thought that crossed my mind when seeing the video of the sniper....

he let that ******* get the shot off. So yes, I was thinking just like you, then the more I watched it it came to me that if the sniper was in on it. He never takes his eye from the scope. He keeps it trained on the shooter to take him out, right after the shots. The sniper never looks at the President to see if he's down. Unless it comes after he took the shooter out. So I'm guessing in your plan the shooter wasn't told "hey we are taking you out". So once the sniper takes his eye from the scope for all he knows the shooter could have moved.

Nope if he was told to take the shooter out and was in on a plan. The sniper never takes his eye from the scope. We still haven't dealt with the 2nd sniper on that roof. So in your theory both had to be in on the plan. Same with him his eyes never leave the shooter if the plan was to take that shooter out.

Watch the video and tell me that 2nd sniper knew those shots were coming and it was his job to take the shooter out AFTER he took the shoots?

(07-14-2024 11:24 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 11:08 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Not buying your take on it but if makes you feel better and sleep better at night then ok good for you.

You will never tell me they didn’t know of his whereabouts and like Jack Ruby aka PAWN allowed him to fire knowing full well they’d snuff him so as no loose lips could sink the ship.

In that same line of thinking there's still "loose lips" the shooter was taken out but the two snipers still remain. For your theory to work those two need to be killed. Or those that planned this believe they will never mention it to another person as long as they live.

You are assuming the shooter is the only person that can talk or would talk. If you planned this would you trust the snipers to never in the 30, 40, 50 years they have left to not tell someone?

You would also have to hope the shooter never told anyone about the plan. Even the little bit he knew. So your theory about "loose lips" only attacks it on the slimmest level. Now if it comes out those two snipers were just recently put into that post. I will be willing to accept your line of thought.

But I know if I had put the plan together to kill a former and most likely future President.....

I wouldn't put my life in the hands of two snipers that could at some point talk. Those two if in a conspiracy are only one level up from the shooter

They didn’t have to be a part of anything other than doing what they did and that was their job. The question is did they have instructions to not shoot until shots were fired. That is very plausible in this climate where criminals are coddled and protected.

People would rather believe a conspiracy than incompetence at this high a level.

I gotta go with incompetence considering everything weve seen from the pedo joe govt

(07-14-2024 11:36 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 11:24 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 11:08 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Not buying your take on it but if makes you feel better and sleep better at night then ok good for you.

You will never tell me they didn’t know of his whereabouts and like Jack Ruby aka PAWN allowed him to fire knowing full well they’d snuff him so as no loose lips could sink the ship.

In that same line of thinking there's still "loose lips" the shooter was taken out but the two snipers still remain. For your theory to work those two need to be killed. Or those that planned this believe they will never mention it to another person as long as they live.

You are assuming the shooter is the only person that can talk or would talk. If you planned this would you trust the snipers to never in the 30, 40, 50 years they have left to not tell someone?

You would also have to hope the shooter never told anyone about the plan. Even the little bit he knew. So your theory about "loose lips" only attacks it on the slimmest level. Now if it comes out those two snipers were just recently put into that post. I will be willing to accept your line of thought.

But I know if I had put the plan together to kill a former and most likely future President.....

I wouldn't put my life in the hands of two snipers that could at some point talk. Those two if in a conspiracy are only one level up from the shooter

After the assassination of JFK the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF EVERY SECURITY DETAIL IS TO TAKE OUT ANY AND ALL POINTS OF HIGHER ELEVATION.

You nor anyone else will ever tell me they weren’t aware of a gunman that close on a roof.

If anyone cracks they are dead walking

Stakes are that high

As its been pointed out the SS was lite and they asked for more which was denied. That building was covered by the sniper(s) so in your theory both had to be in on the plan. To me it looks more like they failed to do their job. With the sniper closest to the edge thinking instead of reacting to his training.

If he ends up dead, no both snipers ends up dying from a "accident" or shooting their self I will start believing it was planed. But till something points to that the answer to me....

doing shitey work and not reacting to training. Along with letting local police cover that area. Which was caused by not having a full team of SS

(07-14-2024 09:47 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(07-13-2024 07:07 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  I didn’t realize there were that many women in the Secret Service. I was happy to see that. They did a great job.

Well, except for actually securing the perimeter.

Oh, and refusing to provide more agents when the Trump campaigned asked.

Director Kimberly A. Cheatle
Kimberly Cheatle is the 27th Director of the U.S. Secret Service, sworn in to office September 17, 2022. She is responsible for successfully executing the agency’s integrated mission of protection and investigations by leading a diverse workforce



Sure, the agents on the ground did their job, but the SS as a whole...

How the **** does the Pepsi security head get this job? Wow.

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(07-14-2024 11:47 AM)shere khan Wrote:  People would rather believe a conspiracy than incompetence at this high a level.

I gotta go with incompetence considering everything weve seen from the pedo joe govt

I'm willing to bet the IQ of this country is well below average, considering how many people think we're a democracy and not a constitutional republic on top of the turd world mouth breathers that have invaded and taken over the country.

(07-14-2024 11:53 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:47 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(07-13-2024 07:07 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  I didn’t realize there were that many women in the Secret Service. I was happy to see that. They did a great job.

Well, except for actually securing the perimeter.

Oh, and refusing to provide more agents when the Trump campaigned asked.

Director Kimberly A. Cheatle
Kimberly Cheatle is the 27th Director of the U.S. Secret Service, sworn in to office September 17, 2022. She is responsible for successfully executing the agency’s integrated mission of protection and investigations by leading a diverse workforce



Sure, the agents on the ground did their job, but the SS as a whole...

How the **** does the Pepsi security head get this job? Wow.

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Hmm, guarding aluminum cans not the same as guarding presidents?

(07-14-2024 11:43 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 11:24 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 11:08 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

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I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Not buying your take on it but if makes you feel better and sleep better at night then ok good for you.

You will never tell me they didn’t know of his whereabouts and like Jack Ruby aka PAWN allowed him to fire knowing full well they’d snuff him so as no loose lips could sink the ship.

In that same line of thinking there's still "loose lips" the shooter was taken out but the two snipers still remain. For your theory to work those two need to be killed. Or those that planned this believe they will never mention it to another person as long as they live.

You are assuming the shooter is the only person that can talk or would talk. If you planned this would you trust the snipers to never in the 30, 40, 50 years they have left to not tell someone?

You would also have to hope the shooter never told anyone about the plan. Even the little bit he knew. So your theory about "loose lips" only attacks it on the slimmest level. Now if it comes out those two snipers were just recently put into that post. I will be willing to accept your line of thought.

But I know if I had put the plan together to kill a former and most likely future President.....

I wouldn't put my life in the hands of two snipers that could at some point talk. Those two if in a conspiracy are only one level up from the shooter

They didn’t have to be a part of anything other than doing what they did and that was their job. The question is did they have instructions to not shoot until shots were fired. That is very plausible in this climate where criminals are coddled and protected.

Personally I don't think the SS has to wait for a shot to take a shot. If that's the case then its no conspiracy its the person at the top not doing their job. While common sense is not so common today, it tells me, anyone with a gun sited in the direction of the President that is not suppose to be there....

you take that shot and I believe (without fully knowing) that is what each SS is taught.

Good grief. DEI is DIE

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/diver...4004324e28


Is any part of the Biden regime competent

(07-14-2024 11:15 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

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I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

You don’t have to plan it. All you have to do is make it easy. What part of that is hard to understand?

While that's a possibility for this to happen "deep state shite" and pull off. Someone would had to target this idiot who took the shot. Not only target him and bring him in but also train him. In that case you would think his social media would be full of bullshite about hate to get noticed for this setup.

Then you would rely on a 20 year old not opening his mouth to anyone about it. Family, friends, whomever. So if the plan was to take out President Trump and kill the shooter. Do you really go with a 20 year old? Or do you go with someone you know will not miss when they take 6 shots?

A plan would need a handful of people close to the Trump SS detail to pull it off. Including the TWO snipers on the roof with the site of that building the shooter was on. But not limited just to them but also their boss and "deep state"

****** work or not doing their job is more believable. But anything is possible with the way people being going after President Trump at a high level in government. I just think when you know you have one try at it....

you don't go with a 20 year old unless it comes out the kid had training and not the average 20 year old.

I think this sums up how I feel. Really sloppy securing of the perimeter. Really sloppy bordering on criminal. However not some vast conspiracy. Here is an insightful interview with Cory Mills a former sniper. Basically the shot was so doable it was sort of hard to miss.[/b]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/...ldn-digvid

This is why many are calling it a miracle, an act of God, providential, etc...


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Given it appears the shooter came up on a sloped roof, not visible to the anti-snipers from the SS, I'm wondering how soon the anti-snipers were able to locate him. It appears they were looking for something (probably notified by others via their ear pieces that a man with a gun was on a roof). Was the shooter standing up or laying down? If he was laying down and just at the hip of the roof, the anti-snipers probably didn't locate him until the last moments before he fired his first shot.