(07-14-2024 10:15 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://x.com/SharylAttkisson/status/181...6305045914

Not our best and brightest . One cant holster weapon.

Cmown shoe

Confidence inspiring.

(07-14-2024 10:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:04 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 08:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 07:54 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  According to news reports this morning people were telling law enforcement the guy had a gun and was crawling on the roof and he was up there 3 to 4 minutes before he started shooting.

Not good.

I'm guessing you didn't read through this thread, huh?

Well, in fairness, it is a long thread.

I'll tell you the same thing I told squid. I was just joking with him, and making fun of the long thread.

Which was mostly 3 people bickering.

I know that, I was simply playing along.

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 07:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  




"My name is Thomas Matthew Crooks, I hate republicans and I hate Trump. And guess what? You got the wrong guy."

What in tarnation is that supposed to mean?

Its almost like he is fleshing out a character.

Maybe its fake, were right at the threshold of them being able to fake anything and it being almost impossible to tell.

This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

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I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Maybe whoever planned the security perimeter sucked. I highly doubt the snipers and agents on the ground were part of a conspiracy. I wonder if the sniper who took the shot raised up because he wanted the view outside of his site. I think he was afraid of a friendly fire incident. Just a guess.

Check out this video before it’s taken down. I hope the witness has personal security because he’s going to need it.

(07-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 07:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  




"My name is Thomas Matthew Crooks, I hate republicans and I hate Trump. And guess what? You got the wrong guy."

What in tarnation is that supposed to mean?

Its almost like he is fleshing out a character.

Maybe its fake, were right at the threshold of them being able to fake anything and it being almost impossible to tell.

This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

You don’t have to plan it. All you have to do is make it easy. What part of that is hard to understand?

While that's a possibility for this to happen "deep state shite" and pull off. Someone would had to target this idiot who took the shot. Not only target him and bring him in but also train him. In that case you would think his social media would be full of bullshite about hate to get noticed for this setup.

Then you would rely on a 20 year old not opening his mouth to anyone about it. Family, friends, whomever. So if the plan was to take out President Trump and kill the shooter. Do you really go with a 20 year old? Or do you go with someone you know will not miss when they take 6 shots?

A plan would need a handful of people close to the Trump SS detail to pull it off. Including the TWO snipers on the roof with the site of that building the shooter was on. But not limited just to them but also their boss and "deep state"

****** work or not doing their job is more believable. But anything is possible with the way people being going after President Trump at a high level in government. I just think when you know you have one try at it....

you don't go with a 20 year old unless it comes out the kid had training and not the average 20 year old.

Per WSJ: Explosive devices found in his (shooter's) car

https://www.wsj.com/

(07-14-2024 10:30 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 07:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  




"My name is Thomas Matthew Crooks, I hate republicans and I hate Trump. And guess what? You got the wrong guy."

What in tarnation is that supposed to mean?

Its almost like he is fleshing out a character.

Maybe its fake, were right at the threshold of them being able to fake anything and it being almost impossible to tell.

This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Maybe whoever planned the security perimeter sucked. I highly doubt the snipers and agents on the ground were part of a conspiracy. I wonder if the sniper who took the shot raised up because he wanted the view outside of his site. I think he was afraid of a friendly fire incident. Just a guess.

That's possible but he was looking through his scope which put him right there with the shooter. I would be shocked in his training that he wasn't taught no one, not even SS, would have the President in their gun site.

Anything in the direct away from the president should be covered from that side. Not with the president in a cross fire. There's no doubt each and every sniper knows the placement of the others.

Finally I would be shocked if their training doesn't tell them to shoot anyone with a gun sited on the president if that person is not in one of those placements. But like you said I believe he "thought" instead of using his training.

If you look at the direction the flags are blowing in this pic/video and the now famous picture where the flag is above Trump when he is holding up his fist.... it's another reason the bullet missed.

The wind was blowing towards the stage and to the left.

Combine the wind and the fact Trump turned and faced the shooter... it is why he is still alive.



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How long until Dems scrub all their social media dehumanizing Trump, e.g. calling him a Nazi, comparisons to Hitler, existential threat to democracy….

(07-14-2024 09:59 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:47 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(07-13-2024 07:07 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  I didn’t realize there were that many women in the Secret Service. I was happy to see that. They did a great job.

Well, except for actually securing the perimeter.

Oh, and refusing to provide more agents when the Trump campaigned asked.

Director Kimberly A. Cheatle
Kimberly Cheatle is the 27th Director of the U.S. Secret Service, sworn in to office September 17, 2022. She is responsible for successfully executing the agency’s integrated mission of protection and investigations by leading a diverse workforce



Sure, the agents on the ground did their job, but the SS as a whole...

For clarification, I’m referring to the agents on the ground. They did a great job, but they can’t control being undermanned due to decisions made at the top. I agree that the head did not do her job sufficiently by not providing more agents.

Something smells like rotten fish heads. You have a SS sniper who allows Sniper to shoot first.

He didn’t just decide this.

Orchestrated

(07-14-2024 10:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:  How long until Dems scrub all their social media dehumanizing Trump, e.g. calling him a Nazi, comparisons to Hitler, existential threat to democracy….

They’re all scum of the earth trash no matter what they do

(07-14-2024 10:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:  How long until Dems scrub all their social media dehumanizing Trump, e.g. calling him a Nazi, comparisons to Hitler, existential threat to democracy….

Google has already started deleting YouTube videos posted about Democrats stoking the flames of violence.

Conservatives need to be preserving the comments in screen shots.

(07-14-2024 10:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:  How long until Dems scrub all their social media dehumanizing Trump, e.g. calling him a Nazi, comparisons to Hitler, existential threat to democracy….

That's the convenient part of social engineering in the age of electronic media. You can delete your sins and pretend they never happened. There is not much in the way of actual print propaganda for which to be held accountable in posterity.

It's as if Amon Goeth from Schindler's List was speaking to the SS troops about the Polish Ghetto in Krakow saying, "After tonight it is all a rumor which has been erased."

Fascism and Communism where exposed in the age of print because rhetoric and propaganda were there for all to see the lies. Today it is ephemeral and easily erased so a new generation falls prey to the same deceit over and over again in a slightly altered fashion.

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 07:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  




"My name is Thomas Matthew Crooks, I hate republicans and I hate Trump. And guess what? You got the wrong guy."

What in tarnation is that supposed to mean?

Its almost like he is fleshing out a character.

Maybe its fake, were right at the threshold of them being able to fake anything and it being almost impossible to tell.

This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

Not buying your take on it but if makes you feel better and sleep better at night then ok good for you.

You will never tell me they didn’t know of his whereabouts and like Jack Ruby aka PAWN allowed him to fire knowing full well they’d snuff him so as no loose lips could sink the ship.

(07-14-2024 10:32 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Check out this video before it’s taken down. I hope the witness has personal security because he’s going to need it.

He isn't the only one they'll have to take out. There are multiple eyewitness accounts starting to pile up.

(07-14-2024 10:56 AM)miko33 Wrote:  How long until Dems scrub all their social media dehumanizing Trump, e.g. calling him a Nazi, comparisons to Hitler, existential threat to democracy….

I've seen some lefties on the other message board forum I used to post on double down on that. So I'm gonna say never.

I doubt this was some lone wolf attempt. There's no reasonable explanation for an armed shooter to get that close, while people are yelling at law enforcement about him, and him being allowed to get 1 shot off, much less multiple shots.

(07-14-2024 10:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:14 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 10:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:44 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(07-14-2024 09:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  This assassin was a pawn.

I can see this. Mental case who took Biden and company seriously and carried out the act. Did the SS know about the threat?

1. Why were spectators ignored?
2. Why was he allowed to take the first shot?
3. Why was there no SS on that roof?
4. Why were the vitriol and call for the assassination of Trump from high ups and others go ignored?

From outside looking in it's like they knew the threat and location, allowed him to take Trump out and then they took him out.

What sucks is one person is dead and others injured.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

I personally don't buy into someone set this up, other than the shooter. I do believe it's just lazy work by those in charge not to let it happen. While you can't actually see it I got the feeling the sniper that saw the shooter before he shot reacted on feelings than training.

If you watch that video over and over on full screen and bring it in tight. It looks like he sees this guy then takes his eye away from the scope looks up and thinking to himself right before the shots. Then he takes the shot. It also looks like the other sniper tried to hide/lay flat. Unless his gun was on that roof and he had to be in that position to take a shot.

People telling the local police about seeing the guy on the roof. Same thing, I think they didn't believe them. ****** work instead of a conspiracy

You don’t have to plan it. All you have to do is make it easy. What part of that is hard to understand?

While that's a possibility for this to happen "deep state shite" and pull off. Someone would had to target this idiot who took the shot. Not only target him and bring him in but also train him. In that case you would think his social media would be full of bullshite about hate to get noticed for this setup.

Then you would rely on a 20 year old not opening his mouth to anyone about it. Family, friends, whomever. So if the plan was to take out President Trump and kill the shooter. Do you really go with a 20 year old? Or do you go with someone you know will not miss when they take 6 shots?

A plan would need a handful of people close to the Trump SS detail to pull it off. Including the TWO snipers on the roof with the site of that building the shooter was on. But not limited just to them but also their boss and "deep state"

****** work or not doing their job is more believable. But anything is possible with the way people being going after President Trump at a high level in government. I just think when you know you have one try at it....

you don't go with a 20 year old unless it comes out the kid had training and not the average 20 year old.

I think this sums up how I feel. Really sloppy securing of the perimeter. Really sloppy bordering on criminal. However not some vast conspiracy. Here is an insightful interview with Cory Mills a former sniper. Basically the shot was so doable it was sort of hard to miss.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/...ldn-digvid

(07-14-2024 11:14 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  I doubt this was some lone wolf attempt. There's no reasonable explanation for an armed shooter to get that close, while people are yelling at law enforcement about him, and him being allowed to get 1 shot off, much less multiple shots.

Agreed.
Something just ain’t kosher.