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Just saw on a blog that Michigan has proof of 9 other B1G school staffers recording games in person. Expect this to go away with a whimper.

Harbaugh suspended for last three regular season games by Big Ten.

I am not a Michigan fan but this is not right, a rush to judgment without due process.

IF that's all UM winds up getting, they got off pretty easy.

A huge reward (2+ years of illegal sign-stealing) for little risk (Harbaugh gets a 3-week suspension-vacation). Granted not ideal with PSU and OSU on the docket, but his assistants are more than capable, and the players will wear "Free Jim" and "Michigan vs. Everybody" t-shirts and act the martyrs, again.

Scholarship reductions and/or post-season bans - assuming there's fire under all this thick smoke - will be appropriate for this level of egregiousness.

He should be wanting the suspension to continue to the bowl or playoff. That way his already poor post season record doesn't get worse

This is the most insane thing I've ever seen in sports. The Big 10 is losing their ever-loving minds lately. If I'm UM, I leave, and let USC and Nebraska duke it out.

I'm telling you guys, the money being shoveled into the fire of previously amateur athletics is driving everyone crazy.

(11-10-2023 04:14 PM)Cocksman Wrote:  He should be wanting the suspension to continue to the bowl or playoff. That way his already poor post season record doesn't get worse

Even if meant sarcastically, this may be the most inane post you've ever made here.

And THAT's really saying something.

(11-10-2023 04:30 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  This is the most insane thing I've ever seen in sports. The Big 10 is losing their ever-loving minds lately. If I'm UM, I leave, and let USC and Nebraska duke it out.

I'm telling you guys, the money being shoveled into the fire of previously amateur athletics is driving everyone crazy.

I'm not sure what the first paragraph means here

Re: the 2nd: Not everything has to do with your favorite bogeyman. Also, giant amounts of money being shoveled into college athletics is absolutely nothing new

(11-10-2023 03:48 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Harbaugh suspended for last three regular season games by Big Ten.

I am not a Michigan fan but this is not right, a rush to judgment without due process.

Not a fan of UM but totally agree about lack of due process. NCAA is investigating. Why B20 wants to pre-empt them smacks of envy/jealousy or stick it to them by other league programs.

If any athletic department deserved something bad to happen to them it is Michigan. They will do anything it takes to win games - even not play the game. Cowards.

This isn’t really a bad thing for them other than the public shame. They got off light. They get to keep their season alive now with even more motivation. Harbaugh still gets to scheme during the week. Hes not a great in game manager so they aren’t missing much. Them fighting it just drags it on and brings more shame

This season will eventually be vacated once the NCAA gets involved. Harbaugh may still end up losing his job over this.

Harbaugh will not lose his job over this. He will only leave if its his decision. Any doubt over that is gone with the entire school circling the wagons over this.

(11-10-2023 05:36 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 04:30 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  This is the most insane thing I've ever seen in sports. The Big 10 is losing their ever-loving minds lately. If I'm UM, I leave, and let USC and Nebraska duke it out.

I'm telling you guys, the money being shoveled into the fire of previously amateur athletics is driving everyone crazy.

I'm not sure what the first paragraph means here

Re: the 2nd: Not everything has to do with your favorite bogeyman. Also, giant amounts of money being shoveled into college athletics is absolutely nothing new

I mean the Big 10 is making crazy decisions based solely on money, and not what's in the best interest for its schools' student athletes. Michigan should leave the conference before it becomes a complete clusterfornicate. It might make more money on its own, given it's rather prestigious nature and a ton of rich, influential grads from NY who couldn't quite make the Ivys. And it wouldn't have to send it's women's volleyball team home on a 3am redeye flight from LAX.

Re: nothing new... Seriously?

Coaching salaries in 2023 dollars:
Woody Hayes, 1951, $149k
Bear Bryant, 1958, $186k
Bo, 1969, $176k
Bobby Bowden, 1996, $1.96 million
Nick Saban, 2007, $5.93 million

Paying Mel Tucker to wank off on the phone with the Title IX speaker? Priceless.

Coach Taylor is making as much in one year as Bear Bryant did in 5 years...

I mean, that's the most ignorant comment I've ever seen on this blog. Mel Tucker made more in a week than one of the most legendary coaches in history did in an entire year.

When you start playing with that kind of eye-popping money and the small army of professional leeches attached to all these coaches, programs, and media outlets are at risk rather than a guy making just a bit more than the school's top prof or administrator, that's when you get crazy poo like summary suspensions on a Friday afternoon while the coach is in mid-flight, followed by restraining orders filed with a former alum in federal court.

(11-10-2023 10:59 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 05:36 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 04:30 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  This is the most insane thing I've ever seen in sports. The Big 10 is losing their ever-loving minds lately. If I'm UM, I leave, and let USC and Nebraska duke it out.

I'm telling you guys, the money being shoveled into the fire of previously amateur athletics is driving everyone crazy.

I'm not sure what the first paragraph means here

Re: the 2nd: Not everything has to do with your favorite bogeyman. Also, giant amounts of money being shoveled into college athletics is absolutely nothing new

I mean the Big 10 is making crazy decisions based solely on money, and not what's in the best interest for its schools' student athletes. Michigan should leave the conference before it becomes a complete clusterfornicate. It might make more money on its own, given it's rather prestigious nature and a ton of rich, influential grads from NY who couldn't quite make the Ivys. And it wouldn't have to send it's women's volleyball team home on a 3am redeye flight from LAX.

Re: nothing new... Seriously?

Coaching salaries in 2023 dollars:
Woody Hayes, 1951, $149k
Bear Bryant, 1958, $186k
Bo, 1969, $176k
Bobby Bowden, 1996, $1.96 million
Nick Saban, 2007, $5.93 million

Paying Mel Tucker to wank off on the phone with the Title IX speaker? Priceless.

Coach Taylor is making as much in one year as Bear Bryant did in 5 years...

Well for starters, $186k in 1958 is equivalent to $2 million today, so while salaries (and everything else) have definitely gone up, let's not ignore reality.

Apologies though, this sounded like your latest rant about NIL so I thought we were working with a more recent timeframe here. Anyway, the huge monetization of college sports does go back decades at this point.

Yes, the recent realignment is in fact insane and it sucks, even for football, but especially everything else. Sure seems like you said this suspension is "the most insane thing you've ever seen in sports", though, which is itself insane.

UM coach Moore was literally crying about Harbaugh in the post-game interview (while dropping several profanities on live TV).

There’s a “Jim Harbaugh could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and wouldn’t lose any support” sort of vibe from that base.

(11-11-2023 10:34 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 10:59 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 05:36 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 04:30 PM)RunningGame Wrote:  This is the most insane thing I've ever seen in sports. The Big 10 is losing their ever-loving minds lately. If I'm UM, I leave, and let USC and Nebraska duke it out.

I'm telling you guys, the money being shoveled into the fire of previously amateur athletics is driving everyone crazy.

I'm not sure what the first paragraph means here

Re: the 2nd: Not everything has to do with your favorite bogeyman. Also, giant amounts of money being shoveled into college athletics is absolutely nothing new

I mean the Big 10 is making crazy decisions based solely on money, and not what's in the best interest for its schools' student athletes. Michigan should leave the conference before it becomes a complete clusterfornicate. It might make more money on its own, given it's rather prestigious nature and a ton of rich, influential grads from NY who couldn't quite make the Ivys. And it wouldn't have to send it's women's volleyball team home on a 3am redeye flight from LAX.

Re: nothing new... Seriously?

Coaching salaries in 2023 dollars:
Woody Hayes, 1951, $149k
Bear Bryant, 1958, $186k
Bo, 1969, $176k
Bobby Bowden, 1996, $1.96 million
Nick Saban, 2007, $5.93 million

Paying Mel Tucker to wank off on the phone with the Title IX speaker? Priceless.

Coach Taylor is making as much in one year as Bear Bryant did in 5 years...

Well for starters, $186k in 1958 is equivalent to $2 million today, so while salaries (and everything else) have definitely gone up, let's not ignore reality.

Apologies though, this sounded like your latest rant about NIL so I thought we were working with a more recent timeframe here. Anyway, the huge monetization of college sports does go back decades at this point.

Yes, the recent realignment is in fact insane and it sucks, even for football, but especially everything else. Sure seems like you said this suspension is "the most insane thing you've ever seen in sports", though, which is itself insane.

Those numbers I provided were adjusted for inflation to 2023 numbers. Woody Hayes 1951 contract was for $12,500, the "fattest contract ever offered by the university" according to the Columbus Dispatch, the equivalent of $149,000 in 2023, adjusted for inflation.

So it was reported that Stalions never submitted any expense reports, UofM fans tried to claim this was proof he was acting as a lone wolf (even though this doesn't really prove much of anything). Now UofM fires linebackers coach Chris Partridge, and UofM's rival fans are claiming this is proof there was someone on the coaching staff behind all this (even though this doesn't really prove much of anything).

And the circus goes around for another spin.

(11-17-2023 12:20 PM)moe24 Wrote:  So it was reported that Stalions never submitted any expense reports, UofM fans tried to claim this was proof he was acting as a lone wolf (even though this doesn't really prove much of anything). Now UofM fires linebackers coach Chris Partridge, and UofM's rival fans are claiming this is proof there was someone on the coaching staff behind all this (even though this doesn't really prove much of anything).

And the circus goes around for another spin.

Additionally it's being reported that an unnamed booster (referred to as Uncle T) funded much of Stalions activities, and that Partridge helped destroy evidence when the story first broke. Supposedly this new evidence is why UofM backed off it's Due Process Lawsuit against the Big10.

I would still like to know why QB coach Weiss was fired in January apparently for some kind of computer malfeasance.