(03-18-2023 07:39 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  How could such a mature team be so immature at all the wrong moments?

It is what can happen when you prepare as if you "know" you can't lose. Confidence is great, but I believe it never crossed the guys' minds that the season could end that night. That going through the motions would be good enough.

(03-18-2023 09:07 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Memphis just needs new fans

To go along with a new city

(03-20-2023 09:15 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:07 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Memphis just needs new fans

To go along with a new city

memphis is fine

going to the game
when thru nashville, louisville, cincinnati and then columbus

i prefer memphis

up north they dont even know what a biscuit is

(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?

Good Lord. Throwing the water bottle was the least offensive thing he could have done at that point.

Are you gonna rip Izzo for breaking a board in half on the sidelines this weekend too??

(03-20-2023 10:07 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?

Good Lord. Throwing the water bottle was the least offensive thing he could have done at that point.

Are you gonna rip Izzo for breaking a board in half on the sidelines this weekend too??

Of course not. Nascar guy doesn’t have an agenda against Izzo

(03-20-2023 09:45 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:15 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:07 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Memphis just needs new fans

To go along with a new city

memphis is fine

going to the game
when thru nashville, louisville, cincinnati and then columbus

i prefer memphis

up north they dont even know what a biscuit is

Do you feel safe on 240 or going to your car from a restaurant or grocery store?

(03-20-2023 10:42 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:45 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:15 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:07 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Memphis just needs new fans

To go along with a new city

memphis is fine

going to the game
when thru nashville, louisville, cincinnati and then columbus

i prefer memphis

up north they dont even know what a biscuit is

Do you feel safe on 240 or going to your car from a restaurant or grocery store?

It’s unsafe on 240? Do I need to look out for jaywalkers?!?

(03-20-2023 10:43 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:42 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:45 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:15 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:07 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Memphis just needs new fans

To go along with a new city

memphis is fine

going to the game
when thru nashville, louisville, cincinnati and then columbus

i prefer memphis

up north they dont even know what a biscuit is

Do you feel safe on 240 or going to your car from a restaurant or grocery store?

It’s unsafe on 240? Do I need to look out for jaywalkers?!?

No just Mustangs and Chargers tying it up and night drag racing and shooting.

(03-20-2023 10:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:43 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:42 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:45 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:15 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  To go along with a new city

memphis is fine

going to the game
when thru nashville, louisville, cincinnati and then columbus

i prefer memphis

up north they dont even know what a biscuit is

Do you feel safe on 240 or going to your car from a restaurant or grocery store?

It’s unsafe on 240? Do I need to look out for jaywalkers?!?

No just Mustangs and Chargers tying it up and night drag racing and shooting.

What times usually?

(03-20-2023 10:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:43 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:42 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:45 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 09:15 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  To go along with a new city

memphis is fine

going to the game
when thru nashville, louisville, cincinnati and then columbus

i prefer memphis

up north they dont even know what a biscuit is

Do you feel safe on 240 or going to your car from a restaurant or grocery store?

It’s unsafe on 240? Do I need to look out for jaywalkers?!?

No just Mustangs and Chargers tying it up and night drag racing and shooting.

It’s incredible how bad it has become.

They were doing burnouts in downtown Columbus

Smoking weed on the streets

It’s everywhere

(03-20-2023 10:56 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  They were doing burnouts in downtown Columbus

Smoking weed on the streets

It’s everywhere

Yeah
NYC, Chicago and LA - cities I have been in recently, same crap. Crime is everywhere esp in mid-larger sized cities.

(03-20-2023 10:58 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:56 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  They were doing burnouts in downtown Columbus

Smoking weed on the streets

It’s everywhere

Yeah
NYC, Chicago and LA - cities I have been in recently, same crap. Crime is everywhere esp in mid-larger sized cities.

Well I don’t live in those places. Unfortunately I have to live here

(03-20-2023 11:40 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:58 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:56 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  They were doing burnouts in downtown Columbus

Smoking weed on the streets

It’s everywhere

Yeah
NYC, Chicago and LA - cities I have been in recently, same crap. Crime is everywhere esp in mid-larger sized cities.

Well I don’t live in those places. Unfortunately I have to live here

Just making a statement that this is not uncommon in mid-larger size cities. Move to the burbs man…that’s where I am at the moment. Pretty stress free I tell ya

(03-20-2023 10:07 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?

Good Lord. Throwing the water bottle was the least offensive thing he could have done at that point.

Are you gonna rip Izzo for breaking a board in half on the sidelines this weekend too??

I agree. I wish he had not done it but mainly because I have read 4 or 5 articles now on the Penny bottle throw and while they mention the timeout miss it is mostly second hand... "Penny expressed his frustration after refs missed a timeout call".... show the freaking video, show everyone how multiple people were calling timeout long before the jump ball occurred. I dont hold it against him at all though. We did get screwed on that play.

(03-20-2023 12:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:07 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?

Good Lord. Throwing the water bottle was the least offensive thing he could have done at that point.

Are you gonna rip Izzo for breaking a board in half on the sidelines this weekend too??

I agree. I wish he had not done it but mainly because I have read 4 or 5 articles now on the Penny bottle throw and while they mention the timeout miss it is mostly second hand... "Penny expressed his frustration after refs missed a timeout call".... show the freaking video, show everyone how multiple people were calling timeout long before the jump ball occurred. I dont hold it against him at all though. We did get screwed on that play.

Problem is it should have never come to the refs blowing a timeout call. We had possession with under 10 sec. That's even after we missed FTs & had several poor possessions late with that slowdown, run clock mentality. We blew it, plain & simple.

This game somewhat reminds me of the Kansas title game loss, in that most focus on the last play where we werent given a time out. In the 2008 game, the real killer was the inbound steal and 3 pointer with 1:45 left If that never happened, it never wouldve come down to free throws.
In this game, if they dont put 0.6 seconds back on clock and they dont hit a miracle shot that they then go back and add a point, I dont think they ever climb back close enough to win. We got up 7 and that was such a huge shift of momentum.

(03-20-2023 12:55 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 12:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:07 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?

Good Lord. Throwing the water bottle was the least offensive thing he could have done at that point.

Are you gonna rip Izzo for breaking a board in half on the sidelines this weekend too??

I agree. I wish he had not done it but mainly because I have read 4 or 5 articles now on the Penny bottle throw and while they mention the timeout miss it is mostly second hand... "Penny expressed his frustration after refs missed a timeout call".... show the freaking video, show everyone how multiple people were calling timeout long before the jump ball occurred. I dont hold it against him at all though. We did get screwed on that play.

Problem is it should have never come to the refs blowing a timeout call. We had possession with under 10 sec. That's even after we missed FTs & had several poor possessions late with that slowdown, run clock mentality. We blew it, plain & simple.

Totally agree. If FAU had hit an out of this world contested 3 to win, it would have been easier to live with - I would have felt like we at least did our best to defend it. On the other hand, letting the inbounding guard waltz uncontested to the basket for a layup while up only 1 point is just mind-blowingly poor defense and shows a lack of situational awareness. I can understand Penny’s throwing the water bottle after witnessing such poor defense, which we had prided ourselves on.

(03-20-2023 12:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:07 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?

Good Lord. Throwing the water bottle was the least offensive thing he could have done at that point.

Are you gonna rip Izzo for breaking a board in half on the sidelines this weekend too??

I agree. I wish he had not done it but mainly because I have read 4 or 5 articles now on the Penny bottle throw and while they mention the timeout miss it is mostly second hand... "Penny expressed his frustration after refs missed a timeout call".... show the freaking video, show everyone how multiple people were calling timeout long before the jump ball occurred. I dont hold it against him at all though. We did get screwed on that play.

Yes, we did. But our own unnecessary, unforced turnover on the previous possession and the astoundingly inept defense on the last FAU inbounds play were the real reasons we lost.

(03-20-2023 01:12 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 12:55 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 12:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:07 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?

Good Lord. Throwing the water bottle was the least offensive thing he could have done at that point.

Are you gonna rip Izzo for breaking a board in half on the sidelines this weekend too??

I agree. I wish he had not done it but mainly because I have read 4 or 5 articles now on the Penny bottle throw and while they mention the timeout miss it is mostly second hand... "Penny expressed his frustration after refs missed a timeout call".... show the freaking video, show everyone how multiple people were calling timeout long before the jump ball occurred. I dont hold it against him at all though. We did get screwed on that play.

Problem is it should have never come to the refs blowing a timeout call. We had possession with under 10 sec. That's even after we missed FTs & had several poor possessions late with that slowdown, run clock mentality. We blew it, plain & simple.

Totally agree. If FAU had hit an out of this world contested 3 to win, it would have been easier to live with - I would have felt like we at least did our best to defend it. On the other hand, letting the inbounding guard waltz uncontested to the basket for a layup while up only 1 point is just mind-blowingly poor defense and shows a lack of situational awareness. I can understand Penny’s throwing the water bottle after witnessing such poor defense, which we had prided ourselves on.

McCadden totally overplayed the guy, ran right by him, allowing him a clear path to the basket. And FAU's big guy did a nice job of boxing DW out. It worked really well, but still if McCadden would have kept the guy in front of him I think FAU has to take a diffent more difficult shot.