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RE: NIL letter to Ambassadors
(11-22-2022 10:08 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 09:51 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  So, if a fan wants to walk up to a player and hand them $10k for taking a picture with them that is ok?

Yep

There is no specific limitation on compensation. However, individual NIL deals must be commensurate with the fair market value.

https://gotigersgo.com/sports/2022/2/17/Maximum.aspx

I imagine that defining fair market value for NIL activities would be pretty difficult, and I am not aware of a case where this has been enforced.
11-22-2022 10:44 AM
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RE: NIL letter to Ambassadors
(11-21-2022 10:28 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-21-2022 09:12 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-21-2022 08:48 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-18-2022 01:43 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(11-18-2022 01:23 PM)RCM1029 Wrote:  One scenario...

Let's say a 3-star linebacker has offers from Arkansas, Missouri, Memphis, Tulsa, and Mississippi State. At Arkansas, Missouri, and MSU he will likely not play for 2 years because of their depth. At Memphis and Tulsa he would probably start immediately. So, he chooses Memphis because of our recent success in football.

Now, let's say that same 3-star LB has the same offers but at Arkansas, Missiouri, and MSU he will receive an NIL deal worth $50K per year while he sits on the bench. At Memphis and Tulsa he will receive deals of $15K but he will play. Who does he sign with?

Today's scenario...

Let's say a 3-star linebacker has offers from Arkansas, Missouri, Memphis, Tulsa, and Mississippi State. At Arkansas, Missouri, and MSU he will likely not play for 2 years because of their depth. At Memphis and Tulsa he would probably start immediately. So, he chooses Memphis because of our recent success in football

Two years later after proving he can play he gets a NIL offer for $ 30K per season at a P5 school (just a good not great LB or Lineman) - he leaves for P5.

This is the more likely scenario. And it's always been this way. IMO, the difference now is less the NIL and more the immediate eligibility thru the portal. The SEC has always been throwing money at players - both HSers and transfers. We've always dealt with the gap. We will continue to do so - no matter how "large" it gets. There are only a certain number of schollies they can give, and the number of players will always > the number of schollies. We need to focus less on comparing ourselves to SEC schools and more on comparing to Tulsa and Tulane.

I agree. As much as it pains me to be left out of the last realignment, the only viable option now is to focus on becoming the recognized best funded and best performing "G-5" school

We got a ways to go to catch up with SMU.

https://www.on3.com/nil/news/smu-mustang...-kleinert/

Probably in football, yes. It seems that they are one of the leaders in the country in this "collective" space.
But basketball? Penny is making deals for players outside of the collective space. There is no doubt that our bb players are better paid - at least on average.
Now the allocation among bb players might be an issue to be worked out.
11-22-2022 10:52 AM
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RE: NIL letter to Ambassadors
(11-22-2022 10:44 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 10:08 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 09:51 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  So, if a fan wants to walk up to a player and hand them $10k for taking a picture with them that is ok?

Yep

There is no specific limitation on compensation. However, individual NIL deals must be commensurate with the fair market value.

https://gotigersgo.com/sports/2022/2/17/Maximum.aspx

I imagine that defining fair market value for NIL activities would be pretty difficult, and I am not aware of a case where this has been enforced.

It's the wild west right now. The intent was fair value and no recruiting enticements. However, due to the failure of the NCAA to properly and timely address this, they've lost court battles and so the guardrails have gone out the window.

I expect 1 or 2 things to happen. The NCAA to finally put some reasonable guardrails in place that will hold up in court. And/or the programs with solid "collectives" begin a direct pay-for-play division.
11-22-2022 10:54 AM
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RE: NIL letter to Ambassadors
(11-22-2022 10:54 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 10:44 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 10:08 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 09:51 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  So, if a fan wants to walk up to a player and hand them $10k for taking a picture with them that is ok?

Yep

There is no specific limitation on compensation. However, individual NIL deals must be commensurate with the fair market value.

https://gotigersgo.com/sports/2022/2/17/Maximum.aspx

I imagine that defining fair market value for NIL activities would be pretty difficult, and I am not aware of a case where this has been enforced.

It's the wild west right now. The intent was fair value and no recruiting enticements. However, due to the failure of the NCAA to properly and timely address this, they've lost court battles and so the guardrails have gone out the window.

I expect 1 or 2 things to happen. The NCAA to finally put some reasonable guardrails in place that will hold up in court. And/or the programs with solid "collectives" begin a direct pay-for-play division.

It is called Division I FBS.
11-22-2022 11:58 AM
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RE: NIL letter to Ambassadors
(11-22-2022 11:58 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 10:54 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 10:44 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 10:08 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 09:51 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  So, if a fan wants to walk up to a player and hand them $10k for taking a picture with them that is ok?

Yep

There is no specific limitation on compensation. However, individual NIL deals must be commensurate with the fair market value.

https://gotigersgo.com/sports/2022/2/17/Maximum.aspx

I imagine that defining fair market value for NIL activities would be pretty difficult, and I am not aware of a case where this has been enforced.

It's the wild west right now. The intent was fair value and no recruiting enticements. However, due to the failure of the NCAA to properly and timely address this, they've lost court battles and so the guardrails have gone out the window.

I expect 1 or 2 things to happen. The NCAA to finally put some reasonable guardrails in place that will hold up in court. And/or the programs with solid "collectives" begin a direct pay-for-play division.

It is called Division I FBS.

Well, sort of. I'm talking about a true pay-to-play with a "minimum wage" division. All schools who can afford to are in - led by the B1G and SEC at about $50k per player.
11-22-2022 01:17 PM
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RE: NIL letter to Ambassadors
(11-22-2022 10:44 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 10:08 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  
(11-22-2022 09:51 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  So, if a fan wants to walk up to a player and hand them $10k for taking a picture with them that is ok?

Yep

There is no specific limitation on compensation. However, individual NIL deals must be commensurate with the fair market value.

https://gotigersgo.com/sports/2022/2/17/Maximum.aspx

I imagine that defining fair market value for NIL activities would be pretty difficult, and I am not aware of a case where this has been enforced.

Wow, it has turned into the wild, wild west, lol

Just about anything goes and probably will before it is all said and done.

If I had a local business that had a legitimate advertising need that would be one thing but the 901 fund and other NIL funds just look like organizations set up to essentially fund pay for play.

I guess the bigger name kids will likely score their own outside NIL deals but the depth players would be left out so a new expense to be 'competitive' has been created in the form of NIL organizations....

The whole thing is pretty **** if you ask me. I do not believe this was at all the intent of NIL.
11-22-2022 05:01 PM
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RE: NIL letter to Ambassadors
(11-19-2022 08:39 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-19-2022 08:07 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  Ambassadors also CAN'T bankrupt themselves to pay NIL atm....This dumb***,oops ....Criminal Empire of administration has deflated the economy and siphoned every last resource to push propaganda/agendas for greed & wealth....That's what politicians do....The "sole purpose" of war declarations (an agreement to create wealth through destruction) there's no $ for NIL, So we will be watching the Lawson's play in the NIT

This is pretty good as far as unhinged political rants go. It blames the UofM's NIL situation on Biden, the war in Ukraine, and "agendas for greed and wealth." I'll give it a 7/10. Good effort, very creative.







Extremely unhinged
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Redbirds doing their part to help. Those are some sharp uniforms they'll be wearing that night.

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(03-15-2023 10:09 AM)UofMark Wrote:  Redbirds doing their part to help. Those are some sharp uniforms they'll be wearing that night.


Very cool.

What are the odds of the Griz emulating? 03-wink
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(03-15-2023 02:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(03-15-2023 10:09 AM)UofMark Wrote:  Redbirds doing their part to help. Those are some sharp uniforms they'll be wearing that night.


Very cool.

What are the odds of the Griz emulating? 03-wink

Not sure Grizz Redbirds themed jerseys would go over well.
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