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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 10:34 AM)boss man Wrote: (12-31-2022 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote: (12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote: (12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote: (12-29-2022 09:12 PM)tigerlands Wrote: Prieskorn and Jackson absolutely kills us. Went to the higher bidder. Memphis will never be able to keep players in this NIL environment.
No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.
Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.
With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.
Thank you for your contributions.
I second this emotion. Plus Bert's comment about the overly dramatic doom and gloom being exhausting.
We will always lose some players, just like we lose our good coaches. But some act like it only happens to us, or only to G5 teams.
The food chain affects almost everybody until you hit maybe Bama, Georgia, Ohio State and a few others.
And I contend, from a practical standpoint, we now have a much better shot at getting a CFP slot in the 12-team format as a G5 in the AAC, than we would in the P5. Not that anybody prefers the position, but it is a positive for recruiting.
The three posts above by Bert56, danny1, and TripleA lay out the overall truths.
I 100% concur that MEMPHIS actually has a better shot at a CFP bid in the 12 team format. I think MEMPHIS will make the CFP before any of the trio of Cincinnati, UCF, or Houston will from their new B12 home.
Griffin also made a valid point in another post about the NIL being important. If the 15,000 "core" football supporters all give the $9.01 MINIMUM each month....that totals $1.621m each year.
Of course, many of the core fans will donate more....which is great. There is no need to expect the "deep pocket" boosters to handle all of the funding. The opportunity is there for ALL TIGER FANS to actively donate.
Be sure of course to donate it to the FB program. The men's BB NIL is in good shape.
Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:16 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:16 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
How exactly do you know all of what you just stated to be factual? Were you involved in the closed door meetings?
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:16 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
How do you know what admin did or didn’t do ? Coaches are fired every year for poor performances. Memphis is no different.
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:30 PM)tpaw09 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:16 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
How do you know what admin did or didn’t do ? Coaches are fired every year for poor performances. Memphis is no different.
He sees it in his crystal ball, from Atlanta.
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:32 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:30 PM)tpaw09 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:16 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
How do you know what admin did or didn’t do ? Coaches are fired every year for poor performances. Memphis is no different.
He sees it in his crystal ball, from Atlanta.
RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
So you're telling me public statements always accurately represent what's going on behind the scenes?
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
To comment again, what do you make of this public statement from Veatch? Doesn't sound like his expectations align with what you're saying.
Quote:“(Coach Ryan Silverfield), I and everyone in the Memphis Football family are not striving for minimum standards,” University of Memphis new Athletic Director Laird Veatch said in his email. “To be clear, our shared goal and expectation remain for Memphis to be the top program in our conference and compete annually on the national stage.”
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 10:34 AM)boss man Wrote: (12-31-2022 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote: (12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote: (12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote: No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.
Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.
With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.
Thank you for your contributions.
I second this emotion. Plus Bert's comment about the overly dramatic doom and gloom being exhausting.
We will always lose some players, just like we lose our good coaches. But some act like it only happens to us, or only to G5 teams.
The food chain affects almost everybody until you hit maybe Bama, Georgia, Ohio State and a few others.
And I contend, from a practical standpoint, we now have a much better shot at getting a CFP slot in the 12-team format as a G5 in the AAC, than we would in the P5. Not that anybody prefers the position, but it is a positive for recruiting.
The three posts above by Bert56, danny1, and TripleA lay out the overall truths.
I 100% concur that MEMPHIS actually has a better shot at a CFP bid in the 12 team format. I think MEMPHIS will make the CFP before any of the trio of Cincinnati, UCF, or Houston will from their new B12 home.
Griffin also made a valid point in another post about the NIL being important. If the 15,000 "core" football supporters all give the $9.01 MINIMUM each month....that totals $1.621m each year.
Of course, many of the core fans will donate more....which is great. There is no need to expect the "deep pocket" boosters to handle all of the funding. The opportunity is there for ALL TIGER FANS to actively donate.
Be sure of course to donate it to the FB program. The men's BB NIL is in good shape.
Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:32 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:30 PM)tpaw09 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:16 PM)msu35 Wrote: There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
How do you know what admin did or didn’t do ? Coaches are fired every year for poor performances. Memphis is no different.
He sees it in his crystal ball, from Atlanta.
RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
He NEVER said that, but you can't read, so you will continue to repeat this stupidity.
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 10:34 AM)boss man Wrote: (12-31-2022 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote: (12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote: (12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote: No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.
Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.
With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.
Thank you for your contributions.
I second this emotion. Plus Bert's comment about the overly dramatic doom and gloom being exhausting.
We will always lose some players, just like we lose our good coaches. But some act like it only happens to us, or only to G5 teams.
The food chain affects almost everybody until you hit maybe Bama, Georgia, Ohio State and a few others.
And I contend, from a practical standpoint, we now have a much better shot at getting a CFP slot in the 12-team format as a G5 in the AAC, than we would in the P5. Not that anybody prefers the position, but it is a positive for recruiting.
The three posts above by Bert56, danny1, and TripleA lay out the overall truths.
I 100% concur that MEMPHIS actually has a better shot at a CFP bid in the 12 team format. I think MEMPHIS will make the CFP before any of the trio of Cincinnati, UCF, or Houston will from their new B12 home.
Griffin also made a valid point in another post about the NIL being important. If the 15,000 "core" football supporters all give the $9.01 MINIMUM each month....that totals $1.621m each year.
Of course, many of the core fans will donate more....which is great. There is no need to expect the "deep pocket" boosters to handle all of the funding. The opportunity is there for ALL TIGER FANS to actively donate.
Be sure of course to donate it to the FB program. The men's BB NIL is in good shape.
Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
^^THIS^^
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:16 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote: Sure, theoretically we have a better chance for the CFP...... if we could actually contend for a conference title. After two losing season records in-conference, it seems we are actually getting further & further from such an opportunity & yet our admin seems content. Losing begets losing & we seem content to allow it to continue.
There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
^^THIS^^
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 04:02 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
To comment again, what do you make of this public statement from Veatch? Doesn't sound like his expectations align with what you're saying.
Quote:“(Coach Ryan Silverfield), I and everyone in the Memphis Football family are not striving for minimum standards,” University of Memphis new Athletic Director Laird Veatch said in his email. “To be clear, our shared goal and expectation remain for Memphis to be the top program in our conference and compete annually on the national stage.”
Quote:So there you have the proof, just like I said. Veatch is happy and Silverfield can keep his job for 20 years as long as he is 6-6.
Signed,
Atlanta
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:32 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:30 PM)tpaw09 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:16 PM)msu35 Wrote: There was a wholesale staff change that just occurred. How is that being content?
The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
How do you know what admin did or didn’t do ? Coaches are fired every year for poor performances. Memphis is no different.
He sees it in his crystal ball, from Atlanta.
RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
Come on , you are not this stupid— stop the trolling
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 04:02 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
To comment again, what do you make of this public statement from Veatch? Doesn't sound like his expectations align with what you're saying.
Quote:“(Coach Ryan Silverfield), I and everyone in the Memphis Football family are not striving for minimum standards,” University of Memphis new Athletic Director Laird Veatch said in his email. “To be clear, our shared goal and expectation remain for Memphis to be the top program in our conference and compete annually on the national stage.”
"are not (striving) for minimum standards"--"our shared (goal) and expection"------however apparently prima facie evidence proves 6-6 will keep you employed at MEMPHIS
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 05:19 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:32 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:30 PM)tpaw09 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote: The admin did nothing. These changes are simply RS deflecting blame & in a panic for his job. Changes were warranted at the AD & HC level.
How do you know what admin did or didn’t do ? Coaches are fired every year for poor performances. Memphis is no different.
He sees it in his crystal ball, from Atlanta.
RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
Come on , you are not this stupid— stop the trolling
Obviously ATLANTA is 100% correct ----why ignore the FACTS-----HC and AD are both still here ---AREN'T THEY ?
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 05:28 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: (12-31-2022 05:19 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:32 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:30 PM)tpaw09 Wrote: How do you know what admin did or didn’t do ? Coaches are fired every year for poor performances. Memphis is no different.
He sees it in his crystal ball, from Atlanta.
RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
Come on , you are not this stupid— stop the trolling
Obviously ATLANTA is 100% correct ----why ignore the FACTS-----HC and AD are both still here ---AREN'T THEY ?
I'll probably regret this in the morning, but...
Okay, in another thread, you said that RS was afraid of losing his job, freaked out, and fired the staff. Now you're saying that Atlanta is right, which implies his job is secure and there is no threat to his employment as long as he keeps a 6-6 record and makes a bowl game. So which is it?
Nothing that Atlanta says makes sense. The coach is apparently in the hot seat, why else would he make abrupt wholesale changes? It's because he knows this is his last shot and he better make good.
How does that prove the administration embraces mediocrity and are complacent with our recent performance? Hint: it doesn't.
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RE: Portal casualties
(12-31-2022 05:28 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: (12-31-2022 05:19 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:32 PM)msu35 Wrote: (12-31-2022 03:30 PM)tpaw09 Wrote: How do you know what admin did or didn’t do ? Coaches are fired every year for poor performances. Memphis is no different.
He sees it in his crystal ball, from Atlanta.
RS is back along with the AD who extended his contract & made public that a losing conference record, 6-6 overall record & a bowl game was the acceptable minimum std & that's what we are likely to get, continuing this HC & AD. No crystal ball needed, it's right in front of us.
Come on , you are not this stupid— stop the trolling
Obviously ATLANTA is 100% correct ----why ignore the FACTS-----HC and AD are both still here ---AREN'T THEY ?
So, you are saying Atlanta is not trolling and is a dolt who posted a serious post? If I were Atlanta I would not appreciate you calling him an idiot
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