(12-30-2022 03:42 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 03:14 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The main issue is that NILs are no longer NILs.

The jest of the SCOTUS case is that NCAA rules prevented a star athlete from making money off his fame.

A coach could sign a contract to be a spokesperson for a local business but the player couldn't.

The ruling opened the door for players to be representatives of companies.

At one time the NCAA rule was that NIL deals could not be used to get a player to attend a certain school.

Now we have the basic buying of players by schools who are setting up funds to pay players.

What we have now is not the intent of the SCOTUS ruling.

But the genie is out of the bottle and there's no way of getting it back in.

So the game is out there, either play or get played

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We’ve been getting played since 1912

(12-30-2022 03:42 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 03:14 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The main issue is that NILs are no longer NILs.

The jest of the SCOTUS case is that NCAA rules prevented a star athlete from making money off his fame.

A coach could sign a contract to be a spokesperson for a local business but the player couldn't.

The ruling opened the door for players to be representatives of companies.

At one time the NCAA rule was that NIL deals could not be used to get a player to attend a certain school.

Now we have the basic buying of players by schools who are setting up funds to pay players.

What we have now is not the intent of the SCOTUS ruling.

But the genie is out of the bottle and there's no way of getting it back in.

So the game is out there, either play or get played

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of course when Memphis starts playing that game...we'll get nailed tot he wall in faux outrage by the bigger schools who also play that game.

Maybe the transfer portal evens out some.
- We lose some of our top playmakers
- We pickup players from Power 5 schools not happy with playing time
- And pickup quality players from MAC/SunBelt/D2 schools that want to play in a better conference. Although with UCF, Cincy, & Houston gone, this argument is not as strong now.

Was hoping to keep most of our playmakers around.

(12-30-2022 01:32 PM)mayhem Wrote:  With the portal I kind of feel for the O-line who sign as HS recruits knowing they will sit at least a year, then get their oppty for snaps taken by P-5 rejects from the transfer portal. We only had 40% of our OL “home grown” if you don’t count the limited starts of Pounder.

It is a rare offensive lineman that will see much playing time as a true freshman, regardless. That is one position where the players especially need time to add strength and bulk as well as time to learn the intricacies of being a part of a unit that must function as one.

Even lovers need a holiday far away from each other

(12-30-2022 06:05 PM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 01:32 PM)mayhem Wrote:  
With the portal I kind of feel for the O-line who sign as HS recruits knowing they will sit at least a year, then get their oppty for snaps taken by P-5 rejects from the transfer portal. We only had 40% of our OL “home grown” if you don’t count the limited starts of Pounder.

It is a rare offensive lineman that will see much playing time as a true freshman, regardless. That is one position where the players especially need time to add strength and bulk as well as time to learn the intricacies of being a part of a unit that must function as one.

Danny- yes as I said they realize coming in they will sit at least a year, I was trying to convey that by the time they reach Sophomore or Junior status their shot at PT gets circumvented by portal players.

(12-30-2022 12:37 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 09:12 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 02:56 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  So far today

Caden Prieskorn
Cameron Wright
CamRon Jackson
Javon Ivory

Prieskorn and Jackson absolutely kills us. Went to the higher bidder. Memphis will never be able to keep players in this NIL environment.

No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.

Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.

With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.

Thank you for your contributions.

I second this! Bert - you speak for many of us and help with the silliness of the trolls who have run off and/or prevented real fans from even bothering posting on mt.org anymore. Thank you!

Ditto

I hope CamRon has looked into depth chart at Florida. They signed 5 DL in the top 300 players in the country as well as a transfer from Louisville in the ‘23 class.

(12-30-2022 07:02 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Even lovers need a holiday far away from each other

Hold me now...

(12-30-2022 07:02 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Even lovers need a holiday far away from each other

And on that holiday who do they chance to meet? That lover may end up being replaced.

(12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 09:12 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 02:56 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  So far today

Caden Prieskorn
Cameron Wright
CamRon Jackson
Javon Ivory

Prieskorn and Jackson absolutely kills us. Went to the higher bidder. Memphis will never be able to keep players in this NIL environment.

No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.

Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.

With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.

Thank you for your contributions.

I second this emotion. Plus Bert's comment about the overly dramatic doom and gloom being exhausting.

We will always lose some players, just like we lose our good coaches. But some act like it only happens to us, or only to G5 teams.

The food chain affects almost everybody until you hit maybe Bama, Georgia, Ohio State and a few others.

And I contend, from a practical standpoint, we now have a much better shot at getting a CFP slot in the 12-team format as a G5 in the AAC, than we would in the P5. Not that anybody prefers the position, but it is a positive for recruiting.

(12-31-2022 12:20 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 07:02 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Even lovers need a holiday far away from each other

Hold me now...

Get that, but... I do not think it's "Hard to say I'm Sorry". I think it's easy, just say it.

And any radio station that cuts off the end of that song has no soul and is going to hell.

NIL; isn't the problem. It's the solution. These admins and schools are lying, cheating and stealing from the people who watch the games and play the games.

Burn the **** house down! Start regionally based pro minor leagues and get the academic peewee's out of Universities and institutions of higher learning.

(12-29-2022 04:15 PM)fsquid Wrote:  This is the new era, I'm sure we will be announcing some incoming transfers in the next week.

Yes, trading down - it is what it is.

(12-29-2022 11:39 PM)griffin Wrote:  NIL is extremely important.

It is the new financial black hole to go along with facilities and coaching salaries. G5 will never compete with P5. If one of them wants who you have they will just come take it.

(12-31-2022 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 09:12 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 02:56 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  So far today

Caden Prieskorn
Cameron Wright
CamRon Jackson
Javon Ivory

Prieskorn and Jackson absolutely kills us. Went to the higher bidder. Memphis will never be able to keep players in this NIL environment.

No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.

Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.

With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.

Thank you for your contributions.

I second this emotion. Plus Bert's comment about the overly dramatic doom and gloom being exhausting.

We will always lose some players, just like we lose our good coaches. But some act like it only happens to us, or only to G5 teams.

The food chain affects almost everybody until you hit maybe Bama, Georgia, Ohio State and a few others.

And I contend, from a practical standpoint, we now have a much better shot at getting a CFP slot in the 12-team format as a G5 in the AAC, than we would in the P5. Not that anybody prefers the position, but it is a positive for recruiting.

That is only true if you have a coach that can play the portal game and financial boosters willing to write even bigger checks than before to go alongside the money for facilities and coach's salaries.

G5 should go ahead and break away from P5 and refuse to play them in any sport. P5 can't take any more players than they do right now unless scholarship limit is expanded. G5 needs it's own set of rules. What is openly transpiring in front of us right now is pure insanity and fairly disgusting.

If you want to throw enough of your hard earned money at this s h I t to actually buy a player be my guest but a few dollars a month even from thousands of fans won't come close to buying a starting 22 much less quality depth with what it will soon cost to acquire and retain players.

Its a shell game and the fans are the mark.

(12-31-2022 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 09:12 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 02:56 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  So far today

Caden Prieskorn
Cameron Wright
CamRon Jackson
Javon Ivory

Prieskorn and Jackson absolutely kills us. Went to the higher bidder. Memphis will never be able to keep players in this NIL environment.

No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.

Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.

With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.

Thank you for your contributions.

I second this emotion. Plus Bert's comment about the overly dramatic doom and gloom being exhausting.

We will always lose some players, just like we lose our good coaches. But some act like it only happens to us, or only to G5 teams.

The food chain affects almost everybody until you hit maybe Bama, Georgia, Ohio State and a few others.

And I contend, from a practical standpoint, we now have a much better shot at getting a CFP slot in the 12-team format as a G5 in the AAC, than we would in the P5. Not that anybody prefers the position, but it is a positive for recruiting.

The three posts above by Bert56, danny1, and TripleA lay out the overall truths.

I 100% concur that MEMPHIS actually has a better shot at a CFP bid in the 12 team format. I think MEMPHIS will make the CFP before any of the trio of Cincinnati, UCF, or Houston will from their new B12 home.

Griffin also made a valid point in another post about the NIL being important. If the 15,000 "core" football supporters all give the $9.01 MINIMUM each month....that totals $1.621m each year.

Of course, many of the core fans will donate more....which is great. There is no need to expect the "deep pocket" boosters to handle all of the funding. The opportunity is there for ALL TIGER FANS to actively donate.

Be sure of course to donate it to the FB program. The men's BB NIL is in good shape.

(12-31-2022 10:34 AM)boss man Wrote:  The three posts above by Bert56, danny1, and TripleA lay out the overall truths.

I 100% concur that MEMPHIS actually has a better shot at a CFP bid in the 12 team format. I think MEMPHIS will make the CFP before any of the trio of Cincinnati, UCF, or Houston will from their new B12 home.

Griffin also made a valid point in another post about the NIL being important. If the 15,000 "core" football supporters all give the $9.01 MINIMUM each month....that totals $1.621m each year.

Of course, many of the core fans will donate more....which is great. There is no need to expect the "deep pocket" boosters to handle all of the funding. The opportunity is there for ALL TIGER FANS to actively donate.

Be sure of course to donate it to the FB program. The men's BB NIL is in good shape.

With NIL shaping recruiting, it is the most important factor in building the strongest team. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Money talks.

(12-31-2022 10:06 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(12-31-2022 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 09:12 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Prieskorn and Jackson absolutely kills us. Went to the higher bidder. Memphis will never be able to keep players in this NIL environment.

No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.

Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.

With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.

Thank you for your contributions.

I second this emotion. Plus Bert's comment about the overly dramatic doom and gloom being exhausting.

We will always lose some players, just like we lose our good coaches. But some act like it only happens to us, or only to G5 teams.

The food chain affects almost everybody until you hit maybe Bama, Georgia, Ohio State and a few others.

And I contend, from a practical standpoint, we now have a much better shot at getting a CFP slot in the 12-team format as a G5 in the AAC, than we would in the P5. Not that anybody prefers the position, but it is a positive for recruiting.

That is only true if you have a coach that can play the portal game and financial boosters willing to write even bigger checks than before to go alongside the money for facilities and coach's salaries.

G5 should go ahead and break away from P5 and refuse to play them in any sport. P5 can't take any more players than they do right now unless scholarship limit is expanded. G5 needs it's own set of rules. What is openly transpiring in front of us right now is pure insanity and fairly disgusting.

If you want to throw enough of your hard earned money at this s h I t to actually buy a player be my guest but a few dollars a month even from thousands of fans won't come close to buying a starting 22 much less quality depth with what it will soon cost to acquire and retain players.

Its a shell game and the fans are the mark.

^^THIS^^

(12-31-2022 11:58 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-31-2022 10:06 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(12-31-2022 07:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-30-2022 11:08 AM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2022 10:51 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  No it doesn’t. I like Cam but we are lucky he made it through the season. Has major authority issues. We will replace him w the two signees from this class. JUCO and Transfer. And we have really young guys that got solid minutes this year. Prieskorn was an absolute surprise. Never played TE until he got here. We will be fine at TE. One out of our last five TE’s was an actual scholarship player.

Bert - it is refreshing to have someone on here that actually has knowledge of football and the program. Your balanced perspective is sorely needed and appreciated.

With the expanded playoffs coming, we are actually going to have a legitimate opportunity to be included, yet there are so many that post here who just want to spew negativity all over the place.

Thank you for your contributions.

I second this emotion. Plus Bert's comment about the overly dramatic doom and gloom being exhausting.

We will always lose some players, just like we lose our good coaches. But some act like it only happens to us, or only to G5 teams.

The food chain affects almost everybody until you hit maybe Bama, Georgia, Ohio State and a few others.

And I contend, from a practical standpoint, we now have a much better shot at getting a CFP slot in the 12-team format as a G5 in the AAC, than we would in the P5. Not that anybody prefers the position, but it is a positive for recruiting.

That is only true if you have a coach that can play the portal game and financial boosters willing to write even bigger checks than before to go alongside the money for facilities and coach's salaries.

G5 should go ahead and break away from P5 and refuse to play them in any sport. P5 can't take any more players than they do right now unless scholarship limit is expanded. G5 needs it's own set of rules. What is openly transpiring in front of us right now is pure insanity and fairly disgusting.

If you want to throw enough of your hard earned money at this s h I t to actually buy a player be my guest but a few dollars a month even from thousands of fans won't come close to buying a starting 22 much less quality depth with what it will soon cost to acquire and retain players.

Its a shell game and the fans are the mark.

^^THIS^^

Birds of a feather - lol