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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
Was Decker the opposing UNH QB when Heinicke broke the single game passing record?
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 03:58 PM)CalODUFan Wrote: Was Decker the opposing UNH QB when Heinicke broke the single game passing record?
No, it was a guy named Vailas.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 12:53 PM)elon77 Wrote: What happens to Reihner?
He’s gone. Already removed ODU from his twitter bio.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 03:09 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (12-03-2022 03:03 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 02:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (12-03-2022 12:53 PM)elon77 Wrote: What happens to Reihner?
Well, here is the prime example why we don't want Reihner back as OC.
The clip shows the zone read RPO that we ran more than any other play. In our case it was not a zone read because it ended up being nothing more than a fake fake - culminating in the inside handoff every time.
Without installing new and complex plays, which would have been very problematic for a young OL, we could have turned this one play into essentially a triple option of sorts, with little or NO extra effort.
In the clip you see the QB keep in this instance, but he could also have thrown downfield, or checked down to the H-Back whom you see him pump fake to, which freezes momentarily the linebacker and gives him a lane.
We could have run this play from day 1. Even if HW isn't going to keep that often, it keeps the defense honest and would have really opened up our rushing attack.
We have often spoken about how open HW was had he kept it, well even after a defense made the adjustment to that, there was still the pass, and of course the inside zone handoff which would no longer have been hampered by a stacked box.
This is also a good way to counter both a run blitz and a pass blitz.
This is the play that the QB fake is supposed to portend, we inexplicably never followed through with "whole" play.
This even, IMHO, best utilizes HWs skillset.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fXRXhHqF..._RPO__.gif
Rahne SHOULD have forced this adjustment after the first game.
Wasn't Reihner a pretty decent Offensive line coach? You don't have to replay the first thru the last game for me, I could see it. Thanks anyway.
Was he? I don't know. We had an all world Center last year, so hard for me to tell.
I didn't replay the entire season, but showed an example of what SHOULD have been our season. And my opinion is that an experienced OC from a P5 should have addressed it. Thanks for playing though.
Just proves my point. There's no cure for ......! I'll let you figure it out. I just wanted to know what happened to Reihner not your knowledge of football.
(This post was last modified: 12-03-2022 05:20 PM by elon77.)
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 05:04 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote: (12-03-2022 12:53 PM)elon77 Wrote: What happens to Reihner?
He’s gone. Already removed ODU from his twitter bio.
Thanks. You know the scoop? I am guessing you do.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 05:11 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:04 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote: (12-03-2022 12:53 PM)elon77 Wrote: What happens to Reihner?
He’s gone. Already removed ODU from his twitter bio.
Thanks. You know the scoop? I am guessing you do.
Gone. Others Are too.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 05:10 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 03:09 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (12-03-2022 03:03 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 02:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (12-03-2022 12:53 PM)elon77 Wrote: What happens to Reihner?
Well, here is the prime example why we don't want Reihner back as OC.
The clip shows the zone read RPO that we ran more than any other play. In our case it was not a zone read because it ended up being nothing more than a fake fake - culminating in the inside handoff every time.
Without installing new and complex plays, which would have been very problematic for a young OL, we could have turned this one play into essentially a triple option of sorts, with little or NO extra effort.
In the clip you see the QB keep in this instance, but he could also have thrown downfield, or checked down to the H-Back whom you see him pump fake to, which freezes momentarily the linebacker and gives him a lane.
We could have run this play from day 1. Even if HW isn't going to keep that often, it keeps the defense honest and would have really opened up our rushing attack.
We have often spoken about how open HW was had he kept it, well even after a defense made the adjustment to that, there was still the pass, and of course the inside zone handoff which would no longer have been hampered by a stacked box.
This is also a good way to counter both a run blitz and a pass blitz.
This is the play that the QB fake is supposed to portend, we inexplicably never followed through with "whole" play.
This even, IMHO, best utilizes HWs skillset.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fXRXhHqF..._RPO__.gif
Rahne SHOULD have forced this adjustment after the first game.
Wasn't Reihner a pretty decent Offensive line coach? You don't have to replay the first thru the last game for me, I could see it. Thanks anyway.
Was he? I don't know. We had an all world Center last year, so hard for me to tell.
I didn't replay the entire season, but showed an example of what SHOULD have been our season. And my opinion is that an experienced OC from a P5 should have addressed it. Thanks for playing though.
Just proves my point. There's no cure for ......! I'll let you figure it out. I just wanted to know what happened to Reihner not your knowledge of football.
You are going to "let" me figure it out. How magnanimous of you.
Here is what happened, I thought you knew that he had been let go, and as such you were asking why.
https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/vp-sp...story.html
(This post was last modified: 12-03-2022 05:48 PM by ODUalum78.)
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 05:22 PM)CalODUFan Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:11 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:04 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote: (12-03-2022 12:53 PM)elon77 Wrote: What happens to Reihner?
He’s gone. Already removed ODU from his twitter bio.
Thanks. You know the scoop? I am guessing you do.
Gone. Others Are too.
Look at Leon Wright's twitter account.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 05:22 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:10 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 03:09 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (12-03-2022 03:03 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 02:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: Well, here is the prime example why we don't want Reihner back as OC.
The clip shows the zone read RPO that we ran more than any other play. In our case it was not a zone read because it ended up being nothing more than a fake fake - culminating in the inside handoff every time.
Without installing new and complex plays, which would have been very problematic for a young OL, we could have turned this one play into essentially a triple option of sorts, with little or NO extra effort.
In the clip you see the QB keep in this instance, but he could also have thrown downfield, or checked down to the H-Back whom you see him pump fake to, which freezes momentarily the linebacker and gives him a lane.
We could have run this play from day 1. Even if HW isn't going to keep that often, it keeps the defense honest and would have really opened up our rushing attack.
We have often spoken about how open HW was had he kept it, well even after a defense made the adjustment to that, there was still the pass, and of course the inside zone handoff which would no longer have been hampered by a stacked box.
This is also a good way to counter both a run blitz and a pass blitz.
This is the play that the QB fake is supposed to portend, we inexplicably never followed through with "whole" play.
This even, IMHO, best utilizes HWs skillset.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fXRXhHqF..._RPO__.gif
Rahne SHOULD have forced this adjustment after the first game.
Wasn't Reihner a pretty decent Offensive line coach? You don't have to replay the first thru the last game for me, I could see it. Thanks anyway.
Was he? I don't know. We had an all world Center last year, so hard for me to tell.
I didn't replay the entire season, but showed an example of what SHOULD have been our season. And my opinion is that an experienced OC from a P5 should have addressed it. Thanks for playing though.
Just proves my point. There's no cure for ......! I'll let you figure it out. I just wanted to know what happened to Reihner not your knowledge of football.
You are going to "let" me figure it out. How magnanimous of you.
Here is what happened, I thought you knew that he had been let go, and as such you were asking why.
https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/vp-sp...story.html
To answer your question about the line coaching; we basically used the same zone blocking scheme last year as we did this year, but with two RBs and more outside the tackles slants.
This year we used one RB, used almost exclusively inside handoffs, lost Weaver, and played stronger competition.
That is why I stated I was not able to assess whether he was a "pretty decent" OL coach last year or not.
(This post was last modified: 12-03-2022 07:13 PM by ODUalum78.)
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
Seems like a solid hire based on the track record. Rahne’s two OCs so far have been a graduate analyst and then the OL coach. Neither had prior OC experience in college.
If this new coach actually lasts through training camp he gives us reason to expect some improvement in the offense.
I don’t expect greatness next year, just improvement.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 05:30 PM)CalODUFan Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:22 PM)CalODUFan Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:11 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:04 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote: (12-03-2022 12:53 PM)elon77 Wrote: What happens to Reihner?
He’s gone. Already removed ODU from his twitter bio.
Thanks. You know the scoop? I am guessing you do.
Gone. Others Are too.
Look at Leon Wright's twitter account.
Not seeing anything n
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
Feel kind of bad for Reihner. He wasn’t good at OC, but that wasn’t the job he was hired for. He stepped up for us in a pinch. He should have been offered his old job back. But I guess the new guy will want his folks in there.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
I really like this hire. Fordham put up a lot of points this year and almost beat Mac runner up Ohio. 42 was the lowest points they scored.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 08:06 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:30 PM)CalODUFan Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:22 PM)CalODUFan Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:11 PM)elon77 Wrote: (12-03-2022 05:04 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote: He’s gone. Already removed ODU from his twitter bio.
Thanks. You know the scoop? I am guessing you do.
Gone. Others Are too.
Look at Leon Wright's twitter account.
Not seeing anything n
That’s the point. Reihner, Leon and Greg Jones all gone.
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-03-2022 02:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (12-03-2022 12:53 PM)elon77 Wrote: What happens to Reihner?
Well, here is the prime example why we don't want Reihner back as OC.
The clip shows the zone read RPO that we ran more than any other play. In our case it was not a zone read because it ended up being nothing more than a fake fake - culminating in the inside handoff every time.
Without installing new and complex plays, which would have been very problematic for a young OL, we could have turned this one play into essentially a triple option of sorts, with little or NO extra effort.
In the clip you see the QB keep in this instance, but he could also have thrown downfield, or checked down to the H-Back whom you see him pump fake to, which freezes momentarily the linebacker and gives him a lane.
We could have run this play from day one. Even if HW isn't going to keep that often, it keeps the defense honest and would have really opened up our rushing attack.
We have often spoken about how open HW was had he kept it, well even after a defense made the adjustment to that, there was still the pass, and of course the inside zone handoff which would no longer have been hampered by a stacked box.
This is also a good way to counter both a run blitz and a pass blitz.
This is the play that the QB fake is supposed to portend, we inexplicably never followed through with "whole" play.
This even, IMHO, best utilizes HWs skillset.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fXRXhHqF..._RPO__.gif
Rahne SHOULD have forced this adjustment after the first game.
No team in America is worried about the QB keeper against us
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RE: Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
(12-04-2022 12:28 AM)Stat Geek Wrote: No team in America is worried about the QB keeper against us
Indeed. Therein lies our most glaring offensive weakness of 2022.
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Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
Decker has already changed his handle and bio to include ODU, lists himself as OC/QB coach, and lists his location as Norfolk, despite no official press release yet. Seems like he's jumping in immediately, good sign.
Maybe if he acts quick enough, theres a chance he can convince some would-be transfers to reconsider. The opportunity to put up gaudy stats with his offense.
https://twitter.com/CoachDeckODU?t=QOOfK...4_yOA&s=09
Also worth noting, we appear to have hired Fordham's OL coach Alex Huettel as well. I wonder if that played a part in ODU terminating Reihner- Decker wanting his guy. (Deckers QB won multiple OPOY in the Patriot League, OL must've done its job)
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Thamel: Sources: Old Dominion is expected to hire Fordham OC Kevin Decker
Blast from the past
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