I came across this old article from 2011 about how RC failed to support the football program and how schools like Cincinnati, UCF and TCU moved ahead of Memphis. Pretty interesting read in the context of today’s conference realignment.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/5742...rc-johnson

MFF, I'll help you out from this aged article on B/R to point out who the real culprit was -------------

Furthermore, Johnson allowed former Memphis Tiger basketball coach, John Calipari, to wreck the Memphis-Ole Miss rival. Calipari did not want to play Ole Miss in basketball anymore and Ole Miss decided two could play that game and tore up the football contract with Memphis. Thus a regional rival that had first been played in 1921 and one of the few games the Tiger football team made money on was torn asunder.

By allowing the Calipari tail to wage the athletic dog, Johnson was left to try and sell the Memphis product to the Big East something they didn't need. Memphis' only strong point, the basketball program, was really irrelevant. The Big East is already top-loaded with basketball schools; they didn't need another "Memphis." Since Calipari had no interest in developing a rival on campus for his basketball program and ego, Memphis football was put on the back burner even further than it already was.

(09-21-2022 08:24 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  MFF, I'll help you out from this aged article on B/R to point out who the real culprit was -------------

Furthermore, Johnson allowed former Memphis Tiger basketball coach, John Calipari, to wreck the Memphis-Ole Miss rival. Calipari did not want to play Ole Miss in basketball anymore and Ole Miss decided two could play that game and tore up the football contract with Memphis. Thus a regional rival that had first been played in 1921 and one of the few games the Tiger football team made money on was torn asunder.

By allowing the Calipari tail to wage the athletic dog, Johnson was left to try and sell the Memphis product to the Big East something they didn't need. Memphis' only strong point, the basketball program, was really irrelevant. The Big East is already top-loaded with basketball schools; they didn't need another "Memphis." Since Calipari had no interest in developing a rival on campus for his basketball program and ego, Memphis football was put on the back burner even further than it already was.

Just an excuse for RC's laziness and incompetence. What a ******* idiot.

(09-21-2022 08:24 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  MFF, I'll help you out from this aged article on B/R to point out who the real culprit was -------------

Furthermore, Johnson allowed former Memphis Tiger basketball coach, John Calipari, to wreck the Memphis-Ole Miss rival. Calipari did not want to play Ole Miss in basketball anymore and Ole Miss decided two could play that game and tore up the football contract with Memphis. Thus a regional rival that had first been played in 1921 and one of the few games the Tiger football team made money on was torn asunder.

By allowing the Calipari tail to wage the athletic dog, Johnson was left to try and sell the Memphis product to the Big East something they didn't need. Memphis' only strong point, the basketball program, was really irrelevant. The Big East is already top-loaded with basketball schools; they didn't need another "Memphis." Since Calipari had no interest in developing a rival on campus for his basketball program and ego, Memphis football was put on the back burner even further than it already was.

Thanks that is an interesting perspective. I don’t think he could have been the only problem though because he left Memphis in 08 and things didn't start to improve until after RC was gone.

RC was a clown shoe. I still can't figure out why Bluta slobs on RC's knob.

(09-21-2022 06:43 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 05:33 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 05:04 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 04:49 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 04:35 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Did you just imply Arky State motivates Memphis fan - comparable to Arky or Old Miss? They do not.

I agree that Mizzou is ho hum in name. So don't take the buyout to move it, unless it's a big'un. Try to move up one of the other contracted games (like Boise). If not, then try to get a series going with UCF, Houston, or Cincy.

The buyout is spelled out in the contract. Can't refuse if they meet that number.

Talking about the buyout to move the game to STL. That is not in the contract.

True that's why if we don't agree, they going to give us 250k and go find someone else.

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you both may be right...

i think most would agree that $250,000 is an absolute joke that I hope the brass never accepts

We have no say so in buyout. If Missouri chooses to exercise that option then all we can do is accept it and look for replacement.

Now if they wait to cancel to the point that we can't find a replacement in time there may be an outside chance of a court awarding damages.

The only say so we have is if we are willing to move the game.

Does this help you knuckleheads that say “Ditch the cupcakes” and “we should play ‘Bama and Tennessee” see the light? Very few P5 teams will agree to play us at home. Maybe a 2 for 1 or straight buy game, but it’s near impossible for us to schedule a home and home game against a P5 team. Victim of our own success I suppose and it’s really not fair, but it’s reality. I’m sure our AD would love to schedule OOC like we did back in the early 90’s, but it ain’t happening folks.

(09-21-2022 08:24 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  MFF, I'll help you out from this aged article on B/R to point out who the real culprit was -------------

Furthermore, Johnson allowed former Memphis Tiger basketball coach, John Calipari, to wreck the Memphis-Ole Miss rival. Calipari did not want to play Ole Miss in basketball anymore and Ole Miss decided two could play that game and tore up the football contract with Memphis. Thus a regional rival that had first been played in 1921 and one of the few games the Tiger football team made money on was torn asunder.

By allowing the Calipari tail to wage the athletic dog, Johnson was left to try and sell the Memphis product to the Big East something they didn't need. Memphis' only strong point, the basketball program, was really irrelevant. The Big East is already top-loaded with basketball schools; they didn't need another "Memphis." Since Calipari had no interest in developing a rival on campus for his basketball program and ego, Memphis football was put on the back burner even further than it already was.

I don't know this as fact but I always supposed there are a lot more high level donors who were committed to basketball only. Thus RC chose to focus on the money. The fact we sucked in football for so long that a lot of those donors were probably sec football fans anyway.

Cal didn't want old mrs to have face time in Memphis.

(09-21-2022 09:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  RC was a clown shoe. I still can't figure out why Bluta slobs on RC's knob.

We get it he fired Finch and you'll never forgive him.

But just about everything we have right now is due to RC Johnson.

Fuentes was hired under the RC regime.

We made it to the Big East in football, now the AAC under RC.

EVERY BIT OF THE BUILDING AND UPGRADES that has and will happen on south campus originated during the RC regime.

(09-21-2022 09:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  RC was a clown shoe. I still can't figure out why Bluta slobs on RC's knob.

He told me why. Because RC would drink beer with him at a road event. That is if you consider mick ultra beer.

(09-21-2022 09:43 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Does this help you knuckleheads that say “Ditch the cupcakes” and “we should play ‘Bama and Tennessee” see the light? Very few P5 teams will agree to play us at home. Maybe a 2 for 1 or straight buy game, but it’s near impossible for us to schedule a home and home game against a P5 team. Victim of our own success I suppose and it’s really not fair, but it’s reality. I’m sure our AD would love to schedule OOC like we did back in the early 90’s, but it ain’t happening folks.

Don't seem to be a problem for other schools --DITCH THE CUPCAKES

(09-21-2022 09:43 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Does this help you knuckleheads that say “Ditch the cupcakes” and “we should play ‘Bama and Tennessee” see the light? Very few P5 teams will agree to play us at home. Maybe a 2 for 1 or straight buy game, but it’s near impossible for us to schedule a home and home game against a P5 team. Victim of our own success I suppose and it’s really not fair, but it’s reality. I’m sure our AD would love to schedule OOC like we did back in the early 90’s, but it ain’t happening folks.

& it’s only going to harder to schedule Current P5 teams if they go to 9 & 10 game conference schedules.

Will likely be lucky to get 2 homes games a decade if they do. But maybe someone will pay us top $ to visit them.

(09-21-2022 08:24 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  MFF, I'll help you out from this aged article on B/R to point out who the real culprit was -------------

Furthermore, Johnson allowed former Memphis Tiger basketball coach, John Calipari, to wreck the Memphis-Ole Miss rival. Calipari did not want to play Ole Miss in basketball anymore and Ole Miss decided two could play that game and tore up the football contract with Memphis. Thus a regional rival that had first been played in 1921 and one of the few games the Tiger football team made money on was torn asunder.

By allowing the Calipari tail to wage the athletic dog, Johnson was left to try and sell the Memphis product to the Big East something they didn't need. Memphis' only strong point, the basketball program, was really irrelevant. The Big East is already top-loaded with basketball schools; they didn't need another "Memphis." Since Calipari had no interest in developing a rival on campus for his basketball program and ego, Memphis football was put on the back burner even further than it already was.

I seem to recall a lot of people on here who worshipped at the Church of Calipari, completely ignoring what was going on. Demanding the school stay out of the way and do anything that Calipari wanted.

You got what you wanted until everything blew up in our face, then you went looking for someone to blame.

(09-21-2022 09:59 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 08:24 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  MFF, I'll help you out from this aged article on B/R to point out who the real culprit was -------------

Furthermore, Johnson allowed former Memphis Tiger basketball coach, John Calipari, to wreck the Memphis-Ole Miss rival. Calipari did not want to play Ole Miss in basketball anymore and Ole Miss decided two could play that game and tore up the football contract with Memphis. Thus a regional rival that had first been played in 1921 and one of the few games the Tiger football team made money on was torn asunder.

By allowing the Calipari tail to wage the athletic dog, Johnson was left to try and sell the Memphis product to the Big East something they didn't need. Memphis' only strong point, the basketball program, was really irrelevant. The Big East is already top-loaded with basketball schools; they didn't need another "Memphis." Since Calipari had no interest in developing a rival on campus for his basketball program and ego, Memphis football was put on the back burner even further than it already was.

I seem to recall a lot of people on here who worshipped at the Church of Calipari, completely ignoring what was going on. Demanding the school stay out of the way and do anything that Calipari wanted.

You got what you wanted until everything blew up in our face, then you went looking for someone to blame.

Unjustly -they found somebody

(09-21-2022 09:46 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 09:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  RC was a clown shoe. I still can't figure out why Bluta slobs on RC's knob.

He told me why. Because RC would drink beer with him at a road event. That is if you consider mick ultra beer.

Sounds about right.

I think the reason some people hated Bowen was because he didn't buddy up to them like RC did.

(09-21-2022 09:55 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 09:43 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Does this help you knuckleheads that say “Ditch the cupcakes” and “we should play ‘Bama and Tennessee” see the light? Very few P5 teams will agree to play us at home. Maybe a 2 for 1 or straight buy game, but it’s near impossible for us to schedule a home and home game against a P5 team. Victim of our own success I suppose and it’s really not fair, but it’s reality. I’m sure our AD would love to schedule OOC like we did back in the early 90’s, but it ain’t happening folks.

Don't seem to be a problem for other schools --DITCH THE CUPCAKES

Don’t let this fact get in the way of your ignorance: our future OOC schedule includes Arkansas, Ms State, Florida St, Boise and for now Missouri. 3 SEC teams, a top brand AAC team, and arguably the most recognized G5 team out there. Absolutely comparable those “other schools” you mention. And they have to compare to other similar programs - don’t include an Old Dominion or Arkansas State team that’s forced into buy games to make their budget.

(09-21-2022 08:24 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  MFF, I'll help you out from this aged article on B/R to point out who the real culprit was -------------

Furthermore, Johnson allowed former Memphis Tiger basketball coach, John Calipari, to wreck the Memphis-Ole Miss rival. Calipari did not want to play Ole Miss in basketball anymore and Ole Miss decided two could play that game and tore up the football contract with Memphis. Thus a regional rival that had first been played in 1921 and one of the few games the Tiger football team made money on was torn asunder.

By allowing the Calipari tail to wage the athletic dog, Johnson was left to try and sell the Memphis product to the Big East something they didn't need. Memphis' only strong point, the basketball program, was really irrelevant. The Big East is already top-loaded with basketball schools; they didn't need another "Memphis." Since Calipari had no interest in developing a rival on campus for his basketball program and ego, Memphis football was put on the back burner even further than it already was.

I seem to recall a lot of people on here who worshipped at the Church of Calipari, completely ignoring what was going on. Demanding the school stay out of the way and do anything that Calipari wanted.

You got what you wanted until everything blew up in our face, then you went looking for someone to blame.

(09-21-2022 09:44 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 09:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  RC was a clown shoe. I still can't figure out why Bluta slobs on RC's knob.

We get it he fired Finch and you'll never forgive him.

But just about everything we have right now is due to RC Johnson.

Fuentes was hired under the RC regime.

We made it to the Big East in football, now the AAC under RC.

EVERY BIT OF THE BUILDING AND UPGRADES that has and will happen on south campus originated during the RC regime.

Yes, it's true Fuentes was hired under the RC regime, but it was after the money spenders told RC to keep his effing list in his pocket and they hired an outside search firm to find candidates to consider. RC may have approved the hire but it wasn't his hire - he just signed what the power players laid in front of him to make it official. At least that's my recollection of the way it went down....

(09-21-2022 10:38 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 09:55 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-21-2022 09:43 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Does this help you knuckleheads that say “Ditch the cupcakes” and “we should play ‘Bama and Tennessee” see the light? Very few P5 teams will agree to play us at home. Maybe a 2 for 1 or straight buy game, but it’s near impossible for us to schedule a home and home game against a P5 team. Victim of our own success I suppose and it’s really not fair, but it’s reality. I’m sure our AD would love to schedule OOC like we did back in the early 90’s, but it ain’t happening folks.

Don't seem to be a problem for other schools --DITCH THE CUPCAKES

Don’t let this fact get in the way of your ignorance: our future OOC schedule includes Arkansas, Ms State, Florida St, Boise and for now Missouri. 3 SEC teams, a top brand AAC team, and arguably the most recognized G5 team out there. Absolutely comparable those “other schools” you mention. And they have to compare to other similar programs - don’t include an Old Dominion or Arkansas State team that’s forced into buy games to make their budget.

Which is it ? Your other post said it was near impossible for us to schedule power 5 -----now this post you are mentioning all the power 5 games scheduled ----which post- your first or second shows the most ignorance coming from you ----------or is it just your rudeness that displays your ignorance the most ----------you had no reason to attack me---I have a right to my opinion --same as you

Missouri has likely said play us in STL or we'll just buyout the game at $250K, per contract terms - take it or leave it. That in comparison to AppSt being paid $1.5M to beat TX A&M at College Sta.