(09-06-2022 04:01 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Temple would take B-10 invite
help CFB out

Rice would, too...AAU after all...

(09-08-2022 12:49 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(09-08-2022 12:43 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-08-2022 11:53 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(09-08-2022 08:56 AM)OneSockUp Wrote:  College football isn't about city markets; it's about regional markets and strong brands.

College basketball seems to be much more about regional markets than football. Aside from Duke and UNC there aren't a whole lot of national basketball brands. UCLA, KU, and UK lead the best of the rest pack, but their games aren't especially sought after outside of their home markets.

College basketball also doesn't really move the needle for any school that has football aspirations, though.

Kentucky and Kansas games not sought after outside their home markets? Really? That's tough to believe.

Yes. Its simply not true. But remember, the poster roots for a football school. He doesn't know any better.

In this day and age, on this board, "football school" is hardly the insult that you seem to be reaching for. texas used to be a football school, what happened there? Did you decide to get the coaches more focused on Academic Research? If only you could somehow be both exceptional in both Sports and Academics at the same time.

Guess that Aggie education didn't help you in reading comprehension.
The point is that he roots for Alabama, a football school. He doesn't understand college basketball.
And BTW, Texas won the director's cup for the 2nd straight year, winning 4 NCAA titles and being runnerup in 6 others, with 14 in the top 10. Only one sport out of 20 didn't make the top 32. And that sport still helped the Longhorns generate more revenue than any other school.

(09-09-2022 09:02 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-08-2022 12:51 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-06-2022 04:38 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(09-06-2022 04:13 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(09-06-2022 04:01 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The idea that you need a school in a big city to own market share in that city just is not true.

There are more App State fans in Charlotte than there are Charlotte fans. And there are more Ohio State fans in Charlotte than in-state App State fans.

Somehow, I doubt that. I mean, I know Ohio State is popular but they shouldn't penetrate markets like that so much that they overshadow local teams, even FBS startups.

Honestly, I came across some study last week that listed the top five most popular CFB teams in every major U.S. metro, and Ohio State was top five in almost every city, including the west coast. But I can't find the danged link. Can't say much more about that.

I did find this from 2014, which of course was eight years ago. It listed Ohio State number three in Mecklenburg County, NC, i.e. Charlotte.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/footballsco...s-zip-code

That doesn't really shock me. Ohio transplants are basically like locusts. What happened to Ohio?

Those transplants are mostly from Northwestern Ohio. AKA a land formerly dominated by unions and the mafia, AKA the heart of the Rust Belt (which runs from Providence to Fort Wayne, but is centered on Cleveland). People have been fleeing unions, mafia, and shut-down factories for decades.

Cincinnati and Columbus never had any of those 3 problems, and they're doing just fine.

There's plenty of shutdown factories all over Ohio. There's a reason Cincinnati is one of the slower growing metros in the top 30 and Dayton is losing people.

(09-09-2022 04:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 09:29 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-07-2022 05:45 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(09-07-2022 03:22 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(09-06-2022 04:08 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  This is all true.

But nothing beats a hometown team.

The Packers are popular, but they're the exception because they're consistent winners. But if the whole league is like the Packers, it's essentially a minor league with minor league-level interest. There's a darn good reason that every other small-town NFL franchise moved to a big city.

The Packers are located in a small city but they are Wisconsin's team. Fans drive from all over the state to attend Packer games and every bar in Wisconsin (at least 1 on every corner in the state) is showing the pre-game, game and post-game.

Yeah - the Packers being a “small market” team is a misnomer because they’re really a giant state flagship brand where they dominate the entire state and every market within it. As someone that once lived a few miles from the Wisconsin state border, you can instantly feel the oppressive universal nature of Packer fandom as soon as you enter the state in even the parts that are actually in the Chicago area as opposed to the Milwaukee area. (Bleh!)

Would the Packers dominate the whole state if they had as many Super Bowl rings as the Vikings?

Would the Packers dominate the whole state if their franchise's best QB was Bernie Kosar instead of Farve, Starr, and Rodgers?

A winning team can expand its fanbase beyond its city. But you can't have a whole league like that because for every team like the Packers or the Crimson Tide, there's a team like the Lions or the Commodores who routinely gets stomped.

texas routinely gets stomped, heck they even lost to Kansas last year. But their fanbase is still just as loud and obnoxious as ever.

Since the start of the 10 team Big 12, Texas is 3rd in conference winning % (at least was prior to last year), behind OU and Oklahoma St. 3rd and 4th is where A&M has been sitting in the SEC West (except for the Covid year), just like when they were in the Big 12 South.

(09-07-2022 06:32 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(09-06-2022 04:03 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  But what about places like Phoenix, Kansas City, Boston, Philadelphia, Denver, etc... Who do the alums and fans in those markets root for in this Brave New World?

Well people in Boston root for the New England Patriots on Sunday and no school will probably grab the market on Saturday.

Yeah, Boston is not at all a college sports town. BC has had a monopoly on being the only major college sports offering there, but hasn't been able to gain any traction since the Flutie days. Philadelphia is solid State Penn territory. The bigger of the two Kansas Cities is in Missouri, so it's covered by Mizzu. That leaves Phoenix and Denver from this list and I'm betting that if a breakaway happens, it will be with 48 schools and both of these markets will have local representation in the P2.

(09-09-2022 09:11 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(09-07-2022 06:32 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(09-06-2022 04:03 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  But what about places like Phoenix, Kansas City, Boston, Philadelphia, Denver, etc... Who do the alums and fans in those markets root for in this Brave New World?

Well people in Boston root for the New England Patriots on Sunday and no school will probably grab the market on Saturday.

Yeah, Boston is not at all a college sports town. BC has had a monopoly on being the only major college sports offering there, but hasn't been able to gain any traction since the Flutie days. Philadelphia is solid State Penn territory. The bigger of the two Kansas Cities is in Missouri, so it's covered by Mizzu. That leaves Phoenix and Denver from this list and I'm betting that if a breakaway happens, it will be with 48 schools and both of these markets will have local representation in the P2.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the last time Bahstan had a singular intensity for a college football team it was Harvard. And that was 100 years ago.