(10-23-2022 09:04 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  you know whats funny as hell? the EMU board has the same thing going on with our coach.

Wanna arrange a trade

Here’s the thing: if Creighton had been the Toledo coach, and the rosters stayed the same, I think we’d have a couple more Division championships by now, if not MAC champs. Not sure EMU could say the same thing.

We’ll see how next week goes, but especially if Finn can’t play, I’m thinking Creighton gets his second win in a row over Toledo and puts themselves in the driver’s seat for the MAC West.

(10-23-2022 08:51 AM)Babes boy Wrote:  I questioned why our defense disappears late in games in another thread. It does not make sense. Play lights out then can’t do squat.
The good news is, we still control our own fate. This team has the ability to win out, but do they have the coaching to get them there.

I'd guess it is at least in part due to the front 7 being really battered by injury. Last year, they were able to rotate a lot of bodies and keep everyone fresh. This year, guys are playing every snap.

At DT, they moved Rogers to center, and now have lost Butler, and I don't think Alexander played at all against Buffalo either. Poynter played some snaps early in the season, but didn't see action against UB. That leaves basically Johnson and Cullpepper to play the whole game.

At DE, they lost Taylor for the year, Givhan has been out, Woliver has been dinged up and been in and out, Holt got hurt against Kent so he was out this week. That has left basically Hines and Raigin (who I thought I had heard they might have wanted to move back to LB this year before the injuries started.) Apparently either the younger guys are hurt too, or the staff doesn't think they can play yet.

At LB, lost Bolden for the season. Freeburg had been getting some snaps, but didn't play at all against UB even though I thought he was dressed. They have basically played Gant, Johnson and Barrow entire games, occasionally moving Ford up from safety to add some relief to the mix. Again, either the young LBs are also hurt or not ready to play yet even for a snap or two in the eyes of the staff.

Not sure the front 7 will be able to last the rest of the season in the state it is in.

(10-23-2022 09:13 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 08:51 AM)Babes boy Wrote:  I questioned why our defense disappears late in games in another thread. It does not make sense. Play lights out then can’t do squat.
The good news is, we still control our own fate. This team has the ability to win out, but do they have the coaching to get them there.

I'd guess it is at least in part due to the front 7 being really battered by injury. Last year, they were able to rotate a lot of bodies and keep everyone fresh. This year, guys are playing every snap.

At DT, they moved Rogers to center, and now have lost Butler, and I don't think Alexander played at all against Buffalo either. Poynter played some snaps early in the season, but didn't see action against UB. That leaves basically Johnson and Cullpepper to play the whole game.

At DE, they lost Taylor for the year, Givhan has been out, Woliver has been dinged up and been in and out, Holt got hurt against Kent so he was out this week. That has left basically Hines and Raigin (who I thought I had heard they might have wanted to move back to LB this year before the injuries started.) Apparently either the younger guys are hurt too, or the staff doesn't think they can play yet.

At LB, lost Bolden for the season. Freeburg had been getting some snaps, but didn't play at all against UB even though I thought he was dressed. They have basically played Gant, Johnson and Barrow entire games, occasionally moving Ford up from safety to add some relief to the mix. Again, either the young LBs are also hurt or not ready to play yet even for a snap or two in the eyes of the staff.

Not sure the front 7 will be able to last the rest of the season in the state it is in.

There are too many consistencies from year-to-year to be distracted by "bad-luck." Every year, the excuse is injuries. If these injuries are vastly more numerous than other teams, then there's a coaching issue. If not, then there's a coaching issue.

(10-23-2022 09:39 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 09:13 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 08:51 AM)Babes boy Wrote:  I questioned why our defense disappears late in games in another thread. It does not make sense. Play lights out then can’t do squat.
The good news is, we still control our own fate. This team has the ability to win out, but do they have the coaching to get them there.

I'd guess it is at least in part due to the front 7 being really battered by injury. Last year, they were able to rotate a lot of bodies and keep everyone fresh. This year, guys are playing every snap.

At DT, they moved Rogers to center, and now have lost Butler, and I don't think Alexander played at all against Buffalo either. Poynter played some snaps early in the season, but didn't see action against UB. That leaves basically Johnson and Cullpepper to play the whole game.

At DE, they lost Taylor for the year, Givhan has been out, Woliver has been dinged up and been in and out, Holt got hurt against Kent so he was out this week. That has left basically Hines and Raigin (who I thought I had heard they might have wanted to move back to LB this year before the injuries started.) Apparently either the younger guys are hurt too, or the staff doesn't think they can play yet.

At LB, lost Bolden for the season. Freeburg had been getting some snaps, but didn't play at all against UB even though I thought he was dressed. They have basically played Gant, Johnson and Barrow entire games, occasionally moving Ford up from safety to add some relief to the mix. Again, either the young LBs are also hurt or not ready to play yet even for a snap or two in the eyes of the staff.

Not sure the front 7 will be able to last the rest of the season in the state it is in.

There are too many consistencies from year-to-year to be distracted by "bad-luck." Every year, the excuse is injuries. If these injuries are vastly more numerous than other teams, then there's a coaching issue. If not, then there's a coaching issue.

I’ve been thinking along the same lines…Maybe it’s just proximity/perspective but, man. Toledo sure seems to suffer a lot of key injuries each season lately. You would hope that somebody has changed some conditioning/sports med approaches?

(10-23-2022 09:04 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  you know whats funny as hell? the EMU board has the same thing going on with our coach.

Wanna arrange a trade

Here’s the thing: if Creighton had been the Toledo coach, and the rosters stayed the same, I think we’d have a couple more Division championships by now, if not MAC champs. Not sure EMU could say the same thing.

We’ll see how next week goes, but especially if Finn can’t play, I’m thinking Creighton gets his second win in a row over Toledo and puts themselves in the driver’s seat for the MAC West.

(10-23-2022 10:04 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 09:04 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  you know whats funny as hell? the EMU board has the same thing going on with our coach.

Wanna arrange a trade

Here’s the thing: if Creighton had been the Toledo coach, and the rosters stayed the same, I think we’d have a couple more Division championships by now, if not MAC champs. Not sure EMU could say the same thing.

We’ll see how next week goes, but especially if Finn can’t play, I’m thinking Creighton gets his second win in a row over Toledo and puts themselves in the driver’s seat for the MAC West.

At this point BG is capable of beating the Rockets.

(I am just here for the comments.......)

Bump…

Still wanna trade? I’m down.

this team has way more options than EMU, so a three point win isn't that great to write home about..... MAC C or bust.

(10-29-2022 03:35 PM)rocketinchitown2 Wrote:  this team has way more options than EMU, so a three point win isn't that great to write home about..... MAC C or bust.

It was a win on the road against a pretty good team that drilled a PAC 12 team earlier in the year !!
Actually should not have been that close with a 379-211 offensive differential !!

Penalties bit us on an un even whistle... to me. How many are they gona pick up on the opposition?

Two turnovers with our back up in the biggest game in EMU history... ill take it. Just win baby.

I'd take a badly coached game over a bye week anytime.

"His record against MAC Teams with a winning conference record over that stretch, including this season, is 3-10. "

Really? Someone show me those numbers are wrong. Only 3 wins over winning MAC teams since 2017? And people are debating he should still keep the job after contract is up?

I guess beating EMU counts as a winning record win lolz

Bump…

Played like poo and we won again. I guess everyone else needs to take a harder look at themselves. Easy pickins against 11 bottom 30 coaches in FBS.

This whole "Fire Candle" thing has gotten old and ridiculous. I wonder how such a supposedly horrible coach has managed to win so much. Since a college coach is responsible for recruiting players, hiring coaches, and everything else that goes into winning games, you pretty much have to give Candle credit for his team's consistent success. The Rockets are having a great year and representing the city well. Too bad some diehard fans can't seem to enjoy the ride.

(11-09-2022 06:15 AM)Lester Wrote:  This whole "Fire Candle" thing has gotten old and ridiculous. I wonder how such a supposedly horrible coach has managed to win so much. Since a college coach is responsible for recruiting players, hiring coaches, and everything else that goes into winning games, you pretty much have to give Candle credit for his team's consistent success. The Rockets are having a great year and representing the city well. Too bad some diehard fans can't seem to enjoy the ride.

Well said.

(11-09-2022 06:15 AM)Lester Wrote:  This whole "Fire Candle" thing has gotten old and ridiculous. I wonder how such a supposedly horrible coach has managed to win so much. Since a college coach is responsible for recruiting players, hiring coaches, and everything else that goes into winning games, you pretty much have to give Candle credit for his team's consistent success. The Rockets are having a great year and representing the city well. Too bad some diehard fans can't seem to enjoy the ride.

You seem to only comment for womens basketball. Probably should just stick to that

(11-09-2022 06:15 AM)Lester Wrote:  This whole "Fire Candle" thing has gotten old and ridiculous. I wonder how such a supposedly horrible coach has managed to win so much. Since a college coach is responsible for recruiting players, hiring coaches, and everything else that goes into winning games, you pretty much have to give Candle credit for his team's consistent success. The Rockets are having a great year and representing the city well. Too bad some diehard fans can't seem to enjoy the ride.

Highest paid coach has an incredibly bad record against MAC teams with a winning record. That's not success by most people's standards nor is it earning the income. The complaints are legit.

If complaints about the coaching are getting old for you, which I can understand, you have options. Or you can show the ability of empathy and realize these are mostly just venting. They are not addressing you. They are not personal attacks on you. Even so, you can even put on "ignore" if you are that weak a person, as a few seem to be.

It's the ADs job by what measures to determine if a coach is earning the salary. "Fans" can come and go as they please. If that is a struggle for another fan to understand, then isn't that their problem?