(08-31-2022 07:55 AM)bill dazzle Wrote: If this is a hoax, why did BYU AD Tom Holmoe give his speech?
Cause he's scared of the woke race-baiting mob. Better to submit at the first mention than to investigate properly and be branded a racist for your reasonable approach.
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08-31-2022 08:23 AM
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(08-31-2022 07:55 AM)bill dazzle Wrote: If this is a hoax, why did BYU AD Tom Holmoe give his speech?
Cause he's scared of the woke race-baiting mob. Better to submit at the first mention than to investigate properly and be branded a racist for your reasonable approach.
If this is a hoax (and it very well might be as we have seen this type stunt before), the woman likely behind it (Lesa Pamplin) should be roundly criticized for harming race relations in this great nation.
If, on the other hand, the racially charged word was uttered, all of us on this board should condemn it.
It may or may not have happened from what I can determine. I'm not convinced either way.
Everyone condemned the "noose" in the NASCAR hoax.
Everyone condemned Smollet's "attacker."
The main issue is faking these events to make the country seem racist to push a political agenda. Also, when an actual racist event occurs people scoff and wonder if it's fake.
08-31-2022 08:39 AM
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(08-31-2022 08:39 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Everyone on the board has already condemned it.
Everyone condemned the "noose" in the NASCAR hoax.
Everyone condemned Smollet's "attacker."
The main issue is faking these events to make the country seem racist to push a political agenda. Also, when an actual racist event occurs people scoff and wonder if it's fake.
(08-29-2022 05:19 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote: Would not surprised if this was a leftist plant. The left hates Christianity and and especially a school like BYU.
Richardson praised BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe for his help. BYU has since banned a fan from all athletic venues on campus, and said that the man in question was not a BYU student.
BYU is not Christian. I mean, they "claim" to be, but they are not.
But, that discussion is best for a different thread.
I don't think it was a plant. It was a racist moron who checked his principles at the door, if he ever had them, and allowed the emotions of a sporting event rule his conduct.
I'm sure the game officials and fans around could have and should have done more, but I'm glad that BYU's athletic department summarily banned him.
Also, I welcome a discussion and encourage research on how the school sponsored by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is or is not Christian. But, go to the source:
Revelation 22:18-19 is a start. And, the entire Mormon faith is based on the Book Of Mormon.
There are dozens of false teachings, but really it all begins and ends with the assertion that God has added on to his Revelation thru Joseph Smith. I mean, if you can read the Bible and then read the Book of Mormon, and think that those two go together, I don't know what to tell you.
Seems like the definition of "Christian" you use is different than what I use. The definition you use seems to focus on belief that there can be no more prophets, no additional scripture, and that there can be no more revelation from God since the late 1st century.
That is correct. There are no new prophets or revelation since the close of the New Testament canon. Every single false religion teaches that there is something "more" than the Bible. Even where I went to college (ORU) and the majority of the Charismatic movement teaches that God is still pouring our new revelation. And, that is 100% false.
And btw...there are many other Scriptures that teach the same thing as Revelation 22.
Footnote...you and many other Mormons may in fact be saved and true Christians. I would never dispute that or try to judge a man's heart. Same can be said for Catholics and others.
(08-31-2022 08:39 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Everyone on the board has already condemned it.
Everyone condemned the "noose" in the NASCAR hoax.
Everyone condemned Smollet's "attacker."
The main issue is faking these events to make the country seem racist to push a political agenda. Also, when an actual racist event occurs people scoff and wonder if it's fake.
Exactly.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and state confidently that NOBODY on this board would agree or condone words or actions like that being uttered, whether in a sporting event heckling or anywhere else. So don’t give us that token BS “if you don’t actively say you disagree with it than you agree with it” ideology. That’s garbage and just gaslighting the board.
How about any of you clowns (bill dazzle and others) on the left go ahead and condemn the hateful tweets by this girl’s “godmother”. Her tweets are full of anti-white hate speech. Let’s start there before you idiots that fell for ANOTHER racism scam start wagging your little woke fingers at anyone else.
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(08-31-2022 07:39 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Shocking, another hoax. Knew to not fall for this BS
Read this yesterday.
Immediately submitted it to the advisable 48-72 hour rule. Took less than half that.
But yes, by all means please fire the entire BYU coaching staff in the name of “equity”.
If this is clearly debunked and it seems it’s heading that direction, that player needs to be relieved of anymore obligation to play ball.
And summarily kicked out of the school and escorted off campus. Enough of this bullschit.
Someone dropping the N bomb and no one else heard it or reacted? Yea, right.
Nice summary....
Making up a hate incident should suffer just as much if note even more consequence than an actual incident IMO. I do not see anyone really taking the Godmother to task - she is pouring additional gas on a fire at this point - no?
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(08-30-2022 09:54 PM)Todor Wrote: From the Duke players own mouth—
"I heard a very strong, negative racial slur," Richardson said. "... So I served the ball, got through the play. And then the next time I went back to serve, I heard it extremely clear again, but that was the end of the game."
This has kind of grown in the media from a non student fan who yelled something a couple of times, into thousands of complicate fans who sat by idly while multiple people constantly screamed the same thing over and over, all night, and no one did a thing. That is not what happened at all, if we believe the person it happened to.
If someone is in front of me, or several people down the row from me in a noisy environment, I would most likely not hear anything.
As unfortunate as it might be, it’s being blown into an entire BYU institutional level failure when it simply isn’t.
That didn't even take 48 hours. As I thought, pretty much a nothing burger.
Just as I suspected...There was more to this than being initially reported. Looks like this is could be nothing more than a political stunt to gain support for a candidate. I guess more to come.
(08-31-2022 08:39 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Everyone on the board has already condemned it.
Everyone condemned the "noose" in the NASCAR hoax.
Everyone condemned Smollet's "attacker."
The main issue is faking these events to make the country seem racist to push a political agenda. Also, when an actual racist event occurs people scoff and wonder if it's fake.
Exactly.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and state confidently that NOBODY on this board would agree or condone words or actions like that being uttered, whether in a sporting event heckling or anywhere else. So don’t give us that token BS “if you don’t actively say you disagree with it than you agree with it” ideology. That’s garbage and just gaslighting the board.
How about any of you clowns (bill dazzle and others) on the left go ahead and condemn the hateful tweets by this girl’s “godmother”. Her tweets are full of anti-white hate speech. Let’s start there before you idiots that fell for ANOTHER racism scam start wagging your little woke fingers at anyone else.
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Have you even read my posts over the past few years? I have noted that I own a gun, support abolishing earned income taxation (as it dissuades productivity), am hugely pro-military and pro-police, am glad Trump stood up to China — and have posted numerous times that blacks (and any people of color) can act racist.
I even noted I feel this very well might be a hoax (in this thread) and, if so, the woman behind it should be strongly condemned.
And you think I'm some "woke libtard."
Both pathetic and baffling.
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(08-31-2022 08:39 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Everyone on the board has already condemned it.
Everyone condemned the "noose" in the NASCAR hoax.
Everyone condemned Smollet's "attacker."
The main issue is faking these events to make the country seem racist to push a political agenda. Also, when an actual racist event occurs people scoff and wonder if it's fake.
Exactly.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and state confidently that NOBODY on this board would agree or condone words or actions like that being uttered, whether in a sporting event heckling or anywhere else. So don’t give us that token BS “if you don’t actively say you disagree with it than you agree with it” ideology. That’s garbage and just gaslighting the board.
How about any of you clowns (bill dazzle and others) on the left go ahead and condemn the hateful tweets by this girl’s “godmother”. Her tweets are full of anti-white hate speech. Let’s start there before you idiots that fell for ANOTHER racism scam start wagging your little woke fingers at anyone else.
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Have you even read my posts over the past few years? I have noted that I own a gun, support abolishing earned income taxation (as it dissuades productivity), am hugely pro-military and pro-police, am glad Trump stood up to China — and have posted numerous times that blacks (and any people of color) can act racist.
I even noted I feel this very well might be a hoax (in this thread) and, if so, the woman behind it should be strongly condemned.
And you think I'm some "woke libtard."
Both pathetic and baffling.
I don’t. You actually talk things through and reason. That is something a brainwashed Regressive like LWT and a few others don’t have the capacity to do. It’s called thinking for yourself.
The fact that you can question and criticize the left makes you an American first. Something this country is sorely lacking.
Yes, racists are in every race we just have to deal with it.
The only thing I’m really ashamed about in our country is how folks of all color turn a blind eye on black on black violence. There is no excuse and I don’t care how many idiots scream racism when the thugs are rounded up this needs to stop at whatever cost.
Btw, this 100 times a greater problem than some idiotic word slight.
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(08-31-2022 08:39 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Everyone on the board has already condemned it.
Everyone condemned the "noose" in the NASCAR hoax.
Everyone condemned Smollet's "attacker."
The main issue is faking these events to make the country seem racist to push a political agenda. Also, when an actual racist event occurs people scoff and wonder if it's fake.
Exactly.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and state confidently that NOBODY on this board would agree or condone words or actions like that being uttered, whether in a sporting event heckling or anywhere else. So don’t give us that token BS “if you don’t actively say you disagree with it than you agree with it” ideology. That’s garbage and just gaslighting the board.
How about any of you clowns (bill dazzle and others) on the left go ahead and condemn the hateful tweets by this girl’s “godmother”. Her tweets are full of anti-white hate speech. Let’s start there before you idiots that fell for ANOTHER racism scam start wagging your little woke fingers at anyone else.
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Have you even read my posts over the past few years? I have noted that I own a gun, support abolishing earned income taxation (as it dissuades productivity), am hugely pro-military and pro-police, am glad Trump stood up to China — and have posted numerous times that blacks (and any people of color) can act racist.
I even noted I feel this very well might be a hoax (in this thread) and, if so, the woman behind it should be strongly condemned.
And you think I'm some "woke libtard."
Both pathetic and baffling.
I don’t. You actually talk things through and reason. That is something a brainwashed Regressive like LWT and a few others don’t have the capacity to do. It’s called thinking for yourself.
The fact that you can question and criticize the left makes you an American first. Something this country is sorely lacking.
Yes, racists are in every race we just have to deal with it.
The only thing I’m really ashamed about in our country is how folks of all color turn a blind eye on black on black violence. There is no excuse and I don’t care how many idiots scream racism when the thugs are rounded up this needs to stop at whatever cost.
Btw, this 100 times a greater problem than some idiotic word slight.
