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RE: SMU to Hire Georgia State Coach Rob Lanier
(03-30-2022 06:28 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(03-28-2022 09:31 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(03-28-2022 11:15 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  The makeup of the conference going forward doesn't help with hiring coaches, but that is on the ADs and/or Presidents. Who thought it was a good idea to add 6 teams from CUSA? Our ADs and presidents, so it is on them. Until SMUs board of trustees starts caring about SMU and gets us a president with vision and a competent AD, SMU will be stuck in mediocrity.

The C-USA6 didn't hire Lanier for SMU.

You try to blame the new additions and label them as beneath you, yet SMU's first choice was a coach at a C-USA6 program. And, that C-USA6 coach turned down the SMU job. 04-jawdrop

The C-USA6 are not the source of SMU's problems. The Ponies problems are completely internal.

I've heard SMU is trying to elevate their athletics in hopes of moving to the Big12. I'm not convinced Lanier is going to help SMU achieve that goal.

Every school in the conference is different, and it's hard to compare them, but there seem to be some possible similarities between this hire and Temple's hire of a MAC Coach to take over their football program, which whey came to regret soon afterward.

The first similarity is of the "uncanny" type. Just like SMU began by offering the job to UNT's HC who turned it down, Temple began in Dec., 2018 by offering their FB HC job to Manny Diaz, who turned it down.

The second similarity is that just like SMU's AD responded almost immediately by offering the job to GA State's HC (who promptly said yes), Temple's AD similarly responded almost immediately by offering their FB HC job, to former NIU HC "R.C." (who promptly said yes). In both cases, there really wasn't enough time for the AD's to do the kind of in-depth research known as "due diligence" that is usually expected to be done before making an important hire.

The third similarity is that, in both cases, the candidate who agreed to take the job turned out to have such a weak resume that it would have been possible to fully analyze and confirm the gaps in the candidate's resume after only doing 1-2 hours of due diligence. The gaps in the candidates' resumes were so obvious that even an initial glance at the candidates' coaching record, alone, would have been enough to set off some alarm bells.

Whether or not there are any other similarities between the two events may remain to be determined. In Temple's case there were suggestions or hints that the Athletic Director had either partially bungled the hiring process or might have "farmed it out" to subordinates who had bungled it, and had failed to catch their errors. In a seemingly unrelated development, In Temple's case, the AD took a position at another university less than 6 months after the hiring fiasco was completed, and there had been suggestions around the time that Diaz was offered the job that the AD had already begun looking into seeking a position at another university at around the time that he led the search for a replacement for Temple's departing HC, Matt Rhule. Some have suggested that the job search may have made it more difficult for him to do the kind of due diligence that is ordinarilly expected when hiring a new FB Head Coach. Regardless, the move by Temple's AD was understood to have been "a move up," and not to have been made under duress.

That may be where the "apparent parallels" end.

NOTE: There has, fortunately, been a complete change of Temple's leadership at both the Presidential and AD levels since the 2018-19 FB HC hiring fiasco. Temple's new President has been widely acclaimed and has made a very positive impression to date. He appears to have the kinds of qualities that one often associates with an outstanding university president, and in addition, he's a former Stanford athlete with a keen interest in Temple's athletic programs. Temple's new AD arrived on campus in November, replacing an interim Director, and one of his first duties was to oversee the replacement of Temple's former FB HC. He has been praised for the way that he handled the replacement process, and most observers of the football program have given the new HC and his staff positive reviews. So the story has a happy ending, and there is an encouraging amount of optimism about the future trajectory of Temple's FB and BB programs.

Read your article. Interesting take. Temple’s AD did ya dirty bu bringing on that MAC Head Cooch and you see the same thing happening at SMU with this seemingly weak resumed new hire from a school in The Belch.
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RE: SMU to Hire Georgia State Coach Rob Lanier
Lanier is a fine coach and give the guy a chance. He clearly connects with his players and is knowledgeable about the game.. I did think he'd be around GSU for few more years to build his resume, especially given that Lanier had just renewed his contract with GSU in 2021 with a small fortune for his buyout. I suppose SMU's AD is convinced Lanier is his guy. Will be fun to watch SMU vs Tulane, two former GSU coaches go at it.

Could be a win-win-win-win situation for everyone. SMU AD has the guy he wants. CRL earns a nice raise to create a nest egg for his family, and a step closer to coaching in SEC again with another successful stint at SMU. Georgia State receives the buyout from SMU and hires Jonas Hayes away from Xavier. Hayes is a born and raised ATL native returning for a homecoming. Wishing nothing but the best for Lanier at SMU.
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SMU to Hire Georgia State Coach Rob Lanier
https://twitter.com/GeorgiaStateMBB/stat...6yZi-N5emw

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RE: SMU to Hire Georgia State Coach Rob Lanier
(03-25-2022 10:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  i think smu could have done a way better job..

his resume is paper thin.. basically an auto-bid from a not very good team. his resume is worse that janks, the only difference is the sunbelt championship is easier than the MVC (That had a dominant wichita)
his name came up in the ECU search and i didnt even want him for ECU..

his selling point is recruiting according to your AD, he brought elite recruits to texas... every person here could recruit top texas recruits to UT.. (ron hunter recruited better at ga state than he did)
also the aac seems to love tennesse assistants.. even though tennesse/barnes arent that notable (a coach known for coaching in the tournament)

all 3 aac hires were subpar...

i legitimately think smu could have done WAY better.. but what's done is done.. if recruiting is his selling point, he has a chance to prove it with davis/Bandoumel and the transfer portal .. nothing will make a coach look better than elite some elite transfers

Tennessee NCAA Appearances: 24
Houston NCAA Appearances: 23

Take that **** for "Notable" Pesik
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RE: SMU to Hire Georgia State Coach Rob Lanier
(04-09-2022 10:55 AM)PAAcocahesAssociation Wrote:  
(03-25-2022 10:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  i think smu could have done a way better job..

his resume is paper thin.. basically an auto-bid from a not very good team. his resume is worse that janks, the only difference is the sunbelt championship is easier than the MVC (That had a dominant wichita)
his name came up in the ECU search and i didnt even want him for ECU..

his selling point is recruiting according to your AD, he brought elite recruits to texas... every person here could recruit top texas recruits to UT.. (ron hunter recruited better at ga state than he did)
also the aac seems to love tennesse assistants.. even though tennesse/barnes arent that notable (a coach known for coaching in the tournament)

all 3 aac hires were subpar...

i legitimately think smu could have done WAY better.. but what's done is done.. if recruiting is his selling point, he has a chance to prove it with davis/Bandoumel and the transfer portal .. nothing will make a coach look better than elite some elite transfers

Tennessee NCAA Appearances: 24
Houston NCAA Appearances: 23

Take that **** for "Notable" Pesik

lmao why stop at just the 1st round LMAO!!!

Tennessee NCAA Sweet 16 Appearances: 8
Houston NCAA Sweet 16 Appearances: 13

Tennessee NCAA Elite 8 Appearances: 1
Houston NCAA Elite 8 Appearances: 7

Tennessee NCAA Final 4 appearances: 0
Houston NCAA Final 4 appearances: 6

Tennessee NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 0
Houston NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 2

thanks for helping clear that up..lmaoo
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RE: SMU to Hire Georgia State Coach Rob Lanier
lets play a game; who has more elite8 appearances

a) Tennesse in its 110 years of history

or

b) Houston in the last 2 years
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RE: SMU to Hire Georgia State Coach Rob Lanier
(04-09-2022 11:12 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(04-09-2022 10:55 AM)PAAcocahesAssociation Wrote:  
(03-25-2022 10:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  i think smu could have done a way better job..

his resume is paper thin.. basically an auto-bid from a not very good team. his resume is worse that janks, the only difference is the sunbelt championship is easier than the MVC (That had a dominant wichita)
his name came up in the ECU search and i didnt even want him for ECU..

his selling point is recruiting according to your AD, he brought elite recruits to texas... every person here could recruit top texas recruits to UT.. (ron hunter recruited better at ga state than he did)
also the aac seems to love tennesse assistants.. even though tennesse/barnes arent that notable (a coach known for coaching in the tournament)

all 3 aac hires were subpar...

i legitimately think smu could have done WAY better.. but what's done is done.. if recruiting is his selling point, he has a chance to prove it with davis/Bandoumel and the transfer portal .. nothing will make a coach look better than elite some elite transfers

Tennessee NCAA Appearances: 24
Houston NCAA Appearances: 23

Take that **** for "Notable" Pesik

lmao why stop at just the 1st round LMAO!!!

Tennessee NCAA Sweet 16 Appearances: 8
Houston NCAA Sweet 16 Appearances: 13

Tennessee NCAA Elite 8 Appearances: 1
Houston NCAA Elite 8 Appearances: 7

Tennessee NCAA Final 4 appearances: 0
Houston NCAA Final 4 appearances: 6

Tennessee NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 0
Houston NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 2

thanks for helping clear that up..lmaoo

Both have 0 titles. Isn't that all that really matters, once you're in the dance?

I was just trying to get a rise out of ya. It clearly worked.

Respect the hell outta Houston and have been a fan of what Sampson is doing down there.
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No, NCAA appearances, Sweet 16, Elite 8, Final 4, NCAA Championships all matter. For NIT its appearances and NIT Championships that matter. Also, the Houston program is much more elite than the Tennessee program under current leadership. Barnes has traditionally been very good in the regular season and not much else. Sampson has had a couple of deep runs in the NCAA tournament just the last 3 tournaments.
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(04-09-2022 01:18 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  No, NCAA appearances, Sweet 16, Elite 8, Final 4, NCAA Championships all matter. For NIT its appearances and NIT Championships that matter. Also, the Houston program is much more elite than the Tennessee program under current leadership. Barnes has traditionally been very good in the regular season and not much else. Sampson has had a couple of deep runs in the NCAA tournament just the last 3 tournaments.

Agreed Barnes does seem to choke around the Sweet 16 or earlier most years, and that was true at Texas too. However, I'd say a program that hasn't one an NCAA tournament game this millennium should excuse themselves from opining on how deep of a run without a ring matters, if that's how we're going to measure it.
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