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(05-19-2022 04:23 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Yes, we count before election day so we usually have races called by 10 on election day.

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Well, there's a BIG difference between calling a race and certifying it. Close races like this one are never going to be fully known on a consistent basis on election night.
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(05-19-2022 03:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 03:49 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 03:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 02:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  McCormick currently behind by only 1,267 votes with around 95% reporting.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022...enate.html

Quote:As of Wednesday morning, the state said there were 105,000 mail ballots in Pennsylvania that still needed to be counted. At least one-third are expected to be Republican.

That number was below 70,000 as of 3:30 p.m. Wednesday.

In Lancaster County, workers are hand counting 16,000 misprinted mail ballots. Officials said they're about halfway done.
https://www.wgal.com/article/heres-where.../40039527#

Again, as mentioned in other threads...it's not really feasible to expect states to count all votes on election night...barring MAJOR changes in election procedures.

Florida did it.

Unless something has changed since 2020 Florida starts counting mail in ballots 2 weeks before election day

Quote:Processing

“Processing” means different things in different states, but typically the first step is to compare the signature on the outside of the return envelope with the voter’s signature on record to ensure a match.

In some states, once the signature is verified the envelope can be opened and the ballot prepared for tabulation by removing it from the envelope, flattening it and stacking it with other ballots. Some states may allow ballots to be run through the scanner, as well, but without hitting the “tally” button to actually obtain results.

Thirty-eight states and the Virgin Islands permit election officials to begin processing absentee/mail ballots prior to the election.

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virgin Islands, Virginia, Washington and Wyoming.
Nine states and Washington, D.C., permit election officials to begin processing absentee/mail ballots on Election Day, but prior to the closing of the polls.

Alabama, District of Columbia, Michigan, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
Maryland does not permit the processing of absentee/mail ballots until after the polls close on Election Day.

And in two states and Puerto Rico, the day on which processing may begin is not specified:

Connecticut allows processing to begin at the discretion of the local registrar of voters.
Ohio allows processing to begin before counting at a time determined by the board of elections.
Puerto Rico does not specify.
Counting

Counting is the act of tallying the votes on processed ballots for a result. Like “processing,” the definition of “counting” (or tabulating or tallying) can vary by state, and some states may consider counting to include scanning ballots through voting equipment without obtaining a final tally or result. NCSL defers to each state’s terminology when distinguishing between processing and counting.

Most states begin counting (or tabulating or tallying, depending on the state’s terminology) absentee/mail ballots on Election Day. Most states also prohibit election results from being released until after the polls close, and many states make it a crime to share results earlier than that.

Sixteen states and Washington, D.C., do not allow counting to begin until the polls close:

Alabama, Alaska, District of Columbia, Idaho, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia and Washington.
Twenty-three states allow counting to begin on Election Day, but before the polls close:

Arkansas, California, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
Ten states allow both processing and counting to begin before Election Day:

Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada and Utah.
Connecticut leaves the time for counting to the discretion of the local registrar of voters. In the Virgin Islands, counting begins after absentee ballots have been processed but the timeline is not specified, and Puerto Rico does not specify.

Which means someone there cant create a fake water main leak and generate more votes in the middle of the night.

Notice that since FLorida has cleaned up its voting system, the state isnt nearly as "purple" as it was prior to that.

Nope.

LULZ.
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Florida allows mail-in ballots to be processed starting 22 days before the election. They also don't really allow you to mail in your ballot right up to election day. It must be received by 7 p.m. on election night or it's not counted. So, it the USPS loses your ballot, you're screwed.

Additionally, Florida has a healthy amount of mail-in voting. Around 52% in 2020. So they were likely more than half way done before election day even began!
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/FL.html

And if you remember in PA, the democrats wanted to change the law to allow early counting like Florida but the state Republicans (following the lead of trump) shot it down. Almost as if they wanted to create an issue to ***** about. 03-wink
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McCormick has shaved off another 140 votes, now behind by 1,127 votes with over 95% reporting.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022...enate.html
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Right now, Oz is at 90¢ and rising on predictit. McCormick is at 10¢ and falling
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(05-20-2022 07:49 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Right now, Oz is at 90¢ and rising on predictit. McCormick is at 10¢ and falling

I would prefer the Heart Surgeon, rather than the Hedge Fund Manager Swamp Creature run against a guy that had a CVA a week ago.
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(05-20-2022 08:27 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I would prefer the Heart Surgeon, rather than the Hedge Fund Manager Swamp Creature run against a guy that had a CVA a week ago.
Mixed feelings.

I tend to think McCormick would be both a better Senator (more responsive to constituents, able/willing to play a more constructive role in committee hearings and the GOP caucus, etc.) and also a more conservative Senator (as I define the word “conservative”).

But I think Oz would be the stronger candidate in this election against Fetterman. McCormick comes across like a younger, apprentice-version of Mitt Romney.

If the political environment continues to be toxic for the Democrats, it may well be that either of them could beat Fetterman. But there’s no way to know that right now.
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(05-20-2022 09:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(05-20-2022 08:27 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I would prefer the Heart Surgeon, rather than the Hedge Fund Manager Swamp Creature run against a guy that had a CVA a week ago.
Mixed feelings.

I tend to think McCormick would be both a better Senator (more responsive to constituents, able/willing to play a more constructive role in committee hearings and the GOP caucus, etc.) and also a more conservative Senator (as I define the word “conservative”).

But I think Oz would be the stronger candidate in this election against Fetterman. McCormick comes across like a younger, apprentice-version of Mitt Romney.

If the political environment continues to be toxic for the Democrats, it may well be that either of them could beat Fetterman. But there’s no way to know that right now.

McCormick is a Bush Republucan. Hard Pass. Oz is not a politician.
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(05-20-2022 09:59 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  McCormick is a Bush Republucan. Hard Pass. Oz is not a politician.
True. I do not disagree at all with your description of McCormick. But I guess “not a politician” is not quite as reassuring to me as it is to others.
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(05-21-2022 06:36 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(05-20-2022 09:59 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  McCormick is a Bush Republucan. Hard Pass. Oz is not a politician.
True. I do not disagree at all with your description of McCormick. But I guess “not a politician” is not quite as reassuring to me as it is to others.

Highly intelligent. Nonpolitician.
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Geez...what is taking so long?

McCormick closes by another 57 votes, now down 1,070.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022...enate.html
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(05-23-2022 06:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Geez...what is taking so long?

McCormick closes by another 57 votes, now down 1,070.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022...enate.html

Example: does not care or post opinion on most topics concerning the current dumpster fire of an administration he voted for yet is all over any topic concerning voting. As another very astute poster says, democrats only care about winning elections.
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Looks like the McCormick camp wasn't correct...I don't see them overtaking the New Jersey resident before the recount.



Still down 1,000 votes.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022...enate.html
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Disputes on whether to count undated mail-in ballots in PA

Apparently requiring dates on mail-in ballots in PA isn't law. That's criminally wrong.
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No matter the outcome of this primary. The Democrats will use the flaw in the system to cheat using it.
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No matter the outcome of this primary. The Republicans will use the flaw in the system to cheat using it.
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(05-31-2022 04:40 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  No matter the outcome of this primary. The Democrats will use the flaw in the system to cheat using it.

They have no morals.
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I no longer live in Pa, but I'd vote for Fetterman over those two choices any day of the week. I agree with the R side of things more often than not, but Fetterman is the real deal. The work he did in changing the perception of Braddock was amazing. He got Hollywood to come there. Created things like urban gardens to get the youth involved in the community. I wished he was a R with Conservative values, but he's not. Either way, if he were to run for POTUS and get the nom, he'd likely be the only D I'd vote for in my lifetime. Loads of respect for that guy.
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PA elections are now so broken I'm not sure why anyone gets too worked up over them.
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And new crappiest run election champion...Pennsylvania.

Florida got their act together and now looks like a well oiled machine.
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