Olson left tons of money on the table.

Let’s compare apples to apples and look not at this year, but a couple years down the road when Olson could have been a free agent. When Olson is 29, he will make $22 million. Manny Machado is 29 this year and he’s making $30 million in salary for this year, plus he got a $20 million signing bonus back when he signed his 10 year contract.

(03-15-2022 08:06 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Am I crazy or did the Braves just redefine the market for Freeman?

Sign a comparable player who's younger to a longer term deal for less money?

Not saying Freeman won't get a monster contract, but it's going to take multiple high level bidders going back and forth.

Just a few years ago, the City of Atlanta government cartel tried to hold the Braves hostage and force them to sign a new crappy lease downtown for Turner Field surrounded by urban blight and abandoned when team not in town caused primarily by...the City of Atlanta government. They told the Braves they had no choice and nowhere else they could go. Fast forward to today, Braves have a beautiful new ballpark just north of the Atlanta city limits, surrounded by prosperity, tons of thriving businesses and a pleasant place to spend the afternoon/evening watching a game or just hanging out nearby whether a game was in town or not.

Now Freddy and his agent didn't seem to learn anything form that, as they basically told the Braves they had to resign Freddy to their terms, including overspending for a sixth year for what would then be a 38 year old 1B in decline. Told them they had nowhere else to go since Atl fans loved Freddy so much. Braves just did a deja-vu and signed Matt Olson for longer and at less cost for a player almost 5 years younger with what looks to be tremendous upside, especially when inserted into Braves lineup and Braves new ballpark's more hitter-friendly dimensions. Maybe the next player will heed the message--the Braves seek value and fairness in their business negotiations and are creative enough to find alternatives even when they aren't as easily apparent.

Now, Yankers have re-signed a declining 1B in Rizzo after trading for another x-Brave in decline and injury in Josh Donaldson (something the Braves specifically wanted to avoid with Freddy, no matter how well he had played to that point), and the "blockbuster" Dogsers deal that was ballyhooed last Friday is mysteriously unaccepted so far by Freddy and his agent. It is sad to see how unreasonable greed has taken a good man away from a team esprit-de-corps and turned him into nothing but a mercenary who may well regret his choices. Easier to root for a team that remembers there is no "I" in team. Go Braves!

The Rizzo deal is only 2 years, with an opt out next winter

Schwarber to the Phillies.
Chapman to the Blue Jays.
Suzuki to the Cubs

Updated FA list right now:
1 Correa
3 Freeman
4 Bryant
8 Story
10 Castellanos
25 Soler
29 Jansen
32 Conforto
40 Greinke
43 Villar
45 Tepera
48 Duffy

HM Guys-
Anderson
Cueto
Pederson
Pham
Pineda

stever's favorite non-National with more bad luck.

Chris Sale fractured his rib cage.

(03-16-2022 11:21 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Updated FA list right now:
1 Correa
3 Freeman
4 Bryant
8 Story
10 Castellanos
25 Soler
29 Jansen
32 Conforto
40 Greinke
43 Villar
45 Tepera
48 Duffy

HM Guys-
Anderson
Cueto
Pederson
Pham
Pineda

Read a blog post (from a rather credible Dodgers guy) the other day that said Friedman might be forced to look at Correa if he doesn't think he can/should sign T. Turner and/or get another good offensive piece like Freeman.

The puke emoji doesn't come near doing justice to how I feel about that.

(03-16-2022 12:11 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  stever's favorite non-National with more bad luck.

Chris Sale fractured his rib cage.

It's amazing the luck he's had since 2017. Or lack thereof.

When you're an A's fan, it helps to have a sarcastic sense of humor...

Dodgers give Freeman 6 years, $162 million.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/3352...ources-say

So right now down to these for free agents-
1 Correa
8 Story
10 Castellanos
25 Soler
29 Jansen
32 Conforto
43 Villar
45 Tepera
48 Duffy

HM Guys-
Anderson
Cueto
Pham
Pineda

(03-16-2022 11:40 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Dodgers give Freeman 6 years, $162 million.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/3352...ources-say

Braves No Freddy, BUT Braves YES Eddie!

Atlanta Braves re-sign NLCS MVP Eddie Rosario to 2-year, $18 million deal

Quote:The Atlanta Braves re-signed outfielder Eddie Rosario to a two-year, $18 million contract, the team announced Wednesday. The contract includes a team option for the 2024 season.

The Braves acquired the 30-year-old Rosario from Cleveland before last season's trading deadline. He hit .271 with 13 extra-base hits, including seven home runs during the regular season.

But he took things to another level in the postseason, hitting .560 with three home runs and and nine RBIs in the National League Championship Series en route to being named the MVP of the series. Overall, in 16 playoff games, he hit .383 with seven extra-base hits to help the Braves win a World Series championship. He also had an 11-game hitting streak in the postseason, tied for third longest in Braves playoff history.

For his career, Rosario has a .275 average with 133 home runs and 450 RBIs.

Mon, Apr 18 10:10 PM EST (7:10 PM PST)
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By the numbers...

There were 49 players in MLB with 400+ at bats with a wRC+ of 125 or better. The 2022 Dodgers will have 7 of them: Trea Turner (142 wRC+ last year), Muncy (140), Pollock (137), Freeman (135), Betts (131), Will Smith (130), and Justin Turner (127). They also have Chris Taylor (113 wRC+ last year) and Cody Bellinger, who has the ability but is in desperate need of a bounce-back.

Dodgers will have 9 batters who project above-average offensively. HYPOTHETICALLY there will be no holes, but last year the team scored 2 or fewer runs in 50% of their playoff games.

Right now, every bit of that offense is going to be important. Starting pitchers, at the moment:
1. Buehler
2. Urias


3. Kershaw, who will be solid when he pitches but has all sorts of health concerns and is recovering from an injury that is often a UCL tear precursor







4. Price, who hasn't started regularly since 2019
5. Gonsolin, who likes cats

2 terrific starters, 1 solid but injury-riddled, two openers, and a mostly ok bullpen but no closer. (Doesn't look good for resigning Jansen.)

Maybe a trade of Gavin Lux and prospects for a starting pitcher is next?

ETA: Forgot about Andrew Heaney, because he's forgettable. I guess he's in there with Price and Gonsolin battling for the back-end opener slots.
ETA, rev 1: Dustin May isn't in here because he's not expected back from TJS before the ASB.

Need another pitcher, you say? Oakland probably has what you're looking for, and if the Chapman deal is any indication, it won't cost you any players who have much chance of ever being solid major leaguers.

(03-16-2022 12:51 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(03-15-2022 08:06 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Am I crazy or did the Braves just redefine the market for Freeman?

Sign a comparable player who's younger to a longer term deal for less money?

Not saying Freeman won't get a monster contract, but it's going to take multiple high level bidders going back and forth.

Just a few years ago, the City of Atlanta government cartel tried to hold the Braves hostage and force them to sign a new crappy lease downtown for Turner Field surrounded by urban blight and abandoned when team not in town caused primarily by...the City of Atlanta government. They told the Braves they had no choice and nowhere else they could go. Fast forward to today, Braves have a beautiful new ballpark just north of the Atlanta city limits, surrounded by prosperity, tons of thriving businesses and a pleasant place to spend the afternoon/evening watching a game or just hanging out nearby whether a game was in town or not.

Getting to Truist Park is a pain though

(03-17-2022 03:04 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Need another pitcher, you say? Oakland probably has what you're looking for, and if the Chapman deal is any indication, it won't cost you any players who have much chance of ever being solid major leaguers.

I was gonna say that Montas would look good in Dodger blue (again, sort of), but that just seemed mean.

Being an A’s fan comes with a special kind of suffering.

Dodgers/Braves gonna be interesting for sure.... Jansen now going to the Braves.

Correa to Minnesota, short term, big money.

(03-19-2022 01:19 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Correa to Minnesota, short term, big money.

Basically it's a 1/35.1 deal. He'll become a free agent again next winter, and Boras will be able to get all the commission off of the deal.