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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
(12-30-2021 11:08 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote: (12-29-2021 11:41 PM)Cocksman Wrote: The cowards drop down to 6th in the pairwise before the white flag. We’re above them now.
If the NCAA National Tournament Selection Committee takes in account the Michigan game vs WMU and plugs in this game into the pair wise calculator as a 1-0 victory for WMU, as of today, WMU would move up from #5 to #3 (now a #1 seed) and drops Michigan from #4 to #9 (now a #3 seed). Other NCHC teams pairwise would also change:
DU #3 up #2
ND #2 down #4
Omaha #14 up #13
NCHC would have three #1 regional seeds! UMD is @ #5 either way, w/SCSU @ #7 either way.
The same 16 teams would be in, only some moves in seedings. I can't wait to do this again come conference tournament time.
Great work, but not gonna happen.
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
(12-30-2021 05:34 PM)Doo Wrote: (12-30-2021 11:08 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote: (12-29-2021 11:41 PM)Cocksman Wrote: The cowards drop down to 6th in the pairwise before the white flag. We’re above them now.
If the NCAA National Tournament Selection Committee takes in account the Michigan game vs WMU and plugs in this game into the pair wise calculator as a 1-0 victory for WMU, as of today, WMU would move up from #5 to #3 (now a #1 seed) and drops Michigan from #4 to #9 (now a #3 seed). Other NCHC teams pairwise would also change:
DU #3 up #2
ND #2 down #4
Omaha #14 up #13
NCHC would have three #1 regional seeds! UMD is @ #5 either way, w/SCSU @ #7 either way.
The same 16 teams would be in, only some moves in seedings. I can't wait to do this again come conference tournament time.
Great work, but not gonna happen.
I could see UM dropping a few slots in the polls cause it’s perception anyways. But pairwise will stay as is
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
Sounds like the NCAA is being cowardly too. Probably all UMich grads.
(This post was last modified: 12-30-2021 10:52 PM by Bronco'14.)
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
And some more good WMU GLI coverage worth reading:
Despite Michigan Drama, Western Michigan Puts on Strong Showing at the GLI
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2...estern.php
This tweat also caught my eye:
Adam Wodon
@CHN_AdamWodon
Though no one has said it publicly yet, there are a majority of coaches pretty annoyed, at best, at the Michigan situation. I've heard a few higher ups as well described as "livid." Not sure anyone can do anything about or will try, but there's a lot of bad will out there.
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12-30-2021 11:21 PM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
We always hear about how small and tight-knit the college hockey community is - well this is the chance for it to be proven. If you are a good school then stop scheduling Michigan. Make them get into the NCAAs by beating the Long Island U, and Atlantic Hockey schools. If they only have b10 games to put on their resume then they have many less chances of getting in.
I do not see this happening though. Michigan will just need to spend a tiny more to get home games.
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
(12-31-2021 06:44 AM)WesternDave Wrote: We always hear about how small and tight-knit the college hockey community is - well this is the chance for it to be proven. If you are a good school then stop scheduling Michigan. Make them get into the NCAAs by beating the Long Island U, and Atlantic Hockey schools. If they only have b10 games to put on their resume then they have many less chances of getting in.
Ya, I get what your saying. I kind of have that same opinion about Notre Dame, due to their greed (TV$$) and how they backed out of the NCHC, as SCSU ended up taking their spot. All NCHC teams should never schedule a non-conference game vs them. Let them play Atlantic teams and broadcast those games.
I would say the same for Michigan, though I believe from a recruiting standpoint we want to play them every year. Home & Home, sure, single game @ Yost, no way!
I want our coaching staff to be able to say to a recruit: "WMU is the top hockey program in Michigan, posting a 10-6 record vs Michigan in the last 11 years and 3X GLI champion in the last 3 GLI's WMU has participated in. It's gotten to the point where Michigan is afraid to play us in a schedule non conference game, canceling a game with us only 3 days before, for fear of losing". "We are looking for players who want to play for the best team in Michigan, who plays in the best conference in the country, against the best teams in the country every weekend".
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12-31-2021 08:56 AM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
I love your recruiting strategy and spiel. Use them avoiding us against them.
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12-31-2021 09:15 AM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
(12-31-2021 06:44 AM)WesternDave Wrote: We always hear about how small and tight-knit the college hockey community is - well this is the chance for it to be proven. If you are a good school then stop scheduling Michigan. Make them get into the NCAAs by beating the Long Island U, and Atlantic Hockey schools. If they only have b10 games to put on their resume then they have many less chances of getting in.
I do not see this happening though. Michigan will just need to spend a tiny more to get home games.
I hear what you’re saying, but I think Western’s best response to this is to keep taking on Michigan.
We have gotten way more good publicity out of this than actually beating a full strength UM team 5-2 @ Yost earlier this year.
Michigan made themselves a national embarrassment. We can keep selling the NCHC & our willingness to compete to recruits.
If Michigan is willing to schedule another home & home, the Lunatics will be merciless. Don’t deprive us of that joy. If they duck us, we (and the rest of college hockey) get to paint them as huge chickenshits.
(This post was last modified: 12-31-2021 12:36 PM by BroncoMinor.)
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12-31-2021 12:30 PM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
I do understand what you are saying, but I seriously doubt Michigan will schedule WMU again anytime soon. They will do the time honored solution of ignoring and pretending it didn't happen. There is no consequences which is exactly why Michigan did what they did.
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12-31-2021 02:11 PM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
I wouldn't want the Pairwise to be manually adjusted because of their cowardice because it'll turn into the CFP rankings. Leave it to the computers.
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12-31-2021 02:14 PM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
The NCHC had our backs, too which I love. Michigan made their own bed and I just laughed as every communication they put out made the situation worse.
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12-31-2021 02:58 PM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
(12-31-2021 02:11 PM)WesternDave Wrote: I do understand what you are saying, but I seriously doubt Michigan will schedule WMU again anytime soon. They will do the time honored solution of ignoring and pretending it didn't happen. There is no consequences which is exactly why Michigan did what they did.
There has been consequences. In what was supposed to be a glorious season for Michigan hockey, the entire college hockey world has made them the cowardly villain. Just enjoy it.
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
oh no, one of michigan's golden boys got called to the olympics. i wonder how many games they'll cancel this time?
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
Michigan basketball had to play Rutgers missing 5 players. Juwan should've asked Mel how to dodge games.
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01-06-2022 12:08 PM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
https://techhockeyguide.com/2022/01/26/p...ancel-gli/
Quote:In documents obtained via FOIA request by one of our readers, Tech Hockey Guide was able to review, it is clear that Mel Pearson was behind the decision to cancel the game vs Western Michigan and did not want to play Michigan Tech either. Ultimately the official decision was relayed by Josh Richelew, Sport Administrator at the University of Michigan.
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
(01-26-2022 09:45 PM)bronconick Wrote: https://techhockeyguide.com/2022/01/26/p...ancel-gli/
Quote:In documents obtained via FOIA request by one of our readers, Tech Hockey Guide was able to review, it is clear that Mel Pearson was behind the decision to cancel the game vs Western Michigan and did not want to play Michigan Tech either. Ultimately the official decision was relayed by Josh Richelew, Sport Administrator at the University of Michigan.
The power of the people, taking full advantage of FOIA request to get to the bottom of this.
Man, Mel Person looks real bad, especially after the public statements he made. Can't wait to read a CHN follow up story on this....
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
The ULTIMATE karma would be.....(I can dream, can't I).......Broncos and Whinerines make NCAA tourney in opposite brackets and meet in the National Championship game, where Broncos blank them 4 - 0.
Nowhere to run or hide for them.
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01-27-2022 10:20 AM |
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RE: Great Lakes Invitatinal
(01-26-2022 09:58 PM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote: (01-26-2022 09:45 PM)bronconick Wrote: https://techhockeyguide.com/2022/01/26/p...ancel-gli/
Quote:In documents obtained via FOIA request by one of our readers, Tech Hockey Guide was able to review, it is clear that Mel Pearson was behind the decision to cancel the game vs Western Michigan and did not want to play Michigan Tech either. Ultimately the official decision was relayed by Josh Richelew, Sport Administrator at the University of Michigan.
The power of the people, taking full advantage of FOIA request to get to the bottom of this.
Man, Mel Person looks real bad, especially after the public statements he made. Can't wait to read a CHN follow up story on this....
Ask and ye shall receive......
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2...Hockey.php
Quote:Emails released via the Freedom of Information Act show Michigan coach Mel Pearson to be the impetus behind canceling the Dec. 30 Great Lakes Invitational game against Western Michigan, contrary to public statements. The emails also show that he wanted to cancel the Dec. 29 game against Michigan Tech as well, and that he raised concerns as far back as the summer about scheduling the games in the first place.
It's not clear from the emails why the Dec. 29 game went ahead as scheduled.
Publicly, Michigan said that the decision was made solely by medical personnel. Technically, that may be true. According to the emails, Pearson was writing to other members of the athletic department urging them to cancel the games. That is ultimately what happened.
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