(11-20-2021 01:00 AM)TylerTiger Wrote: Like I said, don’t be a snowflake. There’s no future in it.
Silverfield’s performance speaks for itself. We are in a death spiral.
We can either do something now or die a slow, painful death while the Big XII and the rest of the country watches,
And you obviously need to turn off CNN and all that bs.
You might think you have all the answers but you obviously
don’t know shat. Excuses are for losers - end of discussion.
I may not understand football, college football landscape, and I was born in 1988 so I am a millennial by default..
But a coach who was 8-3 in a pandemic year and then comes into this season with injuries, and more appear, and others hurt at various times, and is 5-6….probably isn’t considered a “downward spiral” in any sense except for irrational cynics.
Houston has had a 4-8, 3-5 years prior to this jump back up. Wins and Losses or down seasons are not something that will suddenly shutter the doors.
Rough seasons happen to all programs at all points of times. If there’s not massive overhauls done during the off season…then I think there is even more concern with judgment.
If I am wrong with my patience, then I am.
You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuse and BS. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.
Being accountable and rational is the thing here. You’re demanding accountability to the extent of termination for one rough season despite ignoring the fairly decent season he had before under tough conditions and seasoned players. Demanding accountability due to knee-jerk cynicism is just stupid and, frankly, is what has also ruined many programs. You can hold someone accountable and demand they make changes, and if they don’t do that at some point, then it is time to let them go. This not that time. This season is, rationally, is not the time.
So you can act infantile if you want since it soothes your ego (as apparently it does Shere Khan’s), but it doesn’t pinch hit for your lack of reasoning. If you fundamentally believe one rough season warrants an irrational response despite a multitude of evidence throughout history that shows the opposite, then I can’t change your perspective on that. I adamantly would have to believe you’re a fool.
One can demand accountability and be patient. These things are not as opposing ends. It’s about being objective and not emotional. Which makes it to the end point - if your response to a rough reason is to act emotional and rant, then you’re probably the snowflake you’re trying to warn us about.
It's a full moon. People are waxing philosophical and talking out loud to themselves.
(11-20-2021 01:00 AM)TylerTiger Wrote: I may not understand football, college football landscape, and I was born in 1988 so I am a millennial by default..
But a coach who was 8-3 in a pandemic year and then comes into this season with injuries, and more appear, and others hurt at various times, and is 5-6….probably isn’t considered a “downward spiral” in any sense except for irrational cynics.
Houston has had a 4-8, 3-5 years prior to this jump back up. Wins and Losses or down seasons are not something that will suddenly shutter the doors.
Rough seasons happen to all programs at all points of times. If there’s not massive overhauls done during the off season…then I think there is even more concern with judgment.
If I am wrong with my patience, then I am.
You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuse and BS. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.
Being accountable and rational is the thing here. You’re demanding accountability to the extent of termination for one rough season despite ignoring the fairly decent season he had before under tough conditions and seasoned players. Demanding accountability due to knee-jerk cynicism is just stupid and, frankly, is what has also ruined many programs. You can hold someone accountable and demand they make changes, and if they don’t do that at some point, then it is time to let them go. This not that time. This season is, rationally, is not the time.
So you can act infantile if you want since it soothes your ego (as apparently it does Shere Khan’s), but it doesn’t pinch hit for your lack of reasoning. If you fundamentally believe one rough season warrants an irrational response despite a multitude of evidence throughout history that shows the opposite, then I can’t change your perspective on that. I adamantly would have to believe you’re a fool.
One can demand accountability and be patient. These things are not as opposing ends. It’s about being objective and not emotional. Which makes it to the end point - if your response to a rough reason is to act emotional and rant, then you’re probably the snowflake you’re trying to warn us about.
It is absolutely beyond the bounds of all rational thought and contrary to the laws of the natural universe to be lectured about maturity by someone that quotes ayn rand.
Sir, you go to far
It’s interesting for someone who is apparently a “conservative” to be anti-Ayn Rand. But once again, small brains try to evade the argument by attacking something else via ad hominem. Considering Rand’s philosophy and political views did play a role in many Republican and Libertarian opinions, your aversion to her wreaks more of a Liberal mindset.
Hence the reason for the quote.
At any rate, being petulant isn’t becoming of those who somehow try to act as my “betters” if the level of your mindset is a stunted bro who thinks wit covers up for your evading of actual thought.
In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.
(11-19-2021 10:56 PM)ImaTiger Wrote: We are the most flakey and immature fan base ever...
If it is flakey for us to expect defensive players to tackle and run through the opposing player instead of stopping and dancing so the runner can get by then i guess we are flakey
I agree on tackling, if we fired every coach when a player missed a tackle, we would be broke. Same thing could be said about penny with turnovers and missed free throws.. is that coaching or the players.
(11-20-2021 12:43 AM)McTiger Wrote: The program is obviously in a downward spiral and something needs to be done ASAP. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t understand football, the college football landscape and is probably a liberal, millennial snowflake.
(11-20-2021 12:43 AM)McTiger Wrote: The program is obviously in a downward spiral and something needs to be done ASAP. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t understand football, the college football landscape and is probably a liberal, millennial snowflake.
Seriously. People just now seeing this?
Seriously, after all the shite I caught for pointing it out early.
I'll credit you for that. You were called everything except a visionary.
(11-20-2021 12:43 AM)McTiger Wrote: The program is obviously in a downward spiral and something needs to be done ASAP. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t understand football, the college football landscape and is probably a liberal, millennial snowflake.
Seriously. People just now seeing this?
Seriously, after all the shite I caught for pointing it out early.
I may not understand football, college football landscape, and I was born in 1988 so I am a millennial by default..
But a coach who was 8-3 in a pandemic year and then comes into this season with injuries, and more appear, and others hurt at various times, and is 5-6….probably isn’t considered a “downward spiral” in any sense except for irrational cynics.
Houston has had a 4-8, 3-5 years prior to this jump back up. Wins and Losses or down seasons are not something that will suddenly shutter the doors.
Rough seasons happen to all programs at all points of times. If there’s not massive overhauls done during the off season…then I think there is even more concern with judgment.
If I am wrong with my patience, then I am.
You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuses and BS. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.
I have no idea where you came from but it's like a breath of fresh air.
While I am on record as being against firing Silverfield just yet there are some major changes which need to occur. If those aren't addressed and we do this again next year then I'll be on board with it. But it's a bad look to get rid of a coach after two seasons, the first of which was way beyond his control.
(11-20-2021 12:43 AM)McTiger Wrote: The program is obviously in a downward spiral and something needs to be done ASAP. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t understand football, the college football landscape and is probably a liberal, millennial snowflake.
Seriously. People just now seeing this?
Seriously, after all the shite I caught for pointing it out early.
I may not understand football, college football landscape, and I was born in 1988 so I am a millennial by default..
But a coach who was 8-3 in a pandemic year and then comes into this season with injuries, and more appear, and others hurt at various times, and is 5-6….probably isn’t considered a “downward spiral” in any sense except for irrational cynics.
Houston has had a 4-8, 3-5 years prior to this jump back up. Wins and Losses or down seasons are not something that will suddenly shutter the doors.
Rough seasons happen to all programs at all points of times. If there’s not massive overhauls done during the off season…then I think there is even more concern with judgment.
If I am wrong with my patience, then I am.
You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that just amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuses. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.
You didn't have to bludgeon him.
Damn.
Hush, my inner voyeur is thrumming with excitement.
(11-20-2021 01:00 AM)TylerTiger Wrote: I may not understand football, college football landscape, and I was born in 1988 so I am a millennial by default..
But a coach who was 8-3 in a pandemic year and then comes into this season with injuries, and more appear, and others hurt at various times, and is 5-6….probably isn’t considered a “downward spiral” in any sense except for irrational cynics.
Houston has had a 4-8, 3-5 years prior to this jump back up. Wins and Losses or down seasons are not something that will suddenly shutter the doors.
Rough seasons happen to all programs at all points of times. If there’s not massive overhauls done during the off season…then I think there is even more concern with judgment.
If I am wrong with my patience, then I am.
You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that just amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuses. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.
You didn't have to bludgeon him.
Damn.
He was rusty. He hasn't posted since 2016.
He can take over for me and I'll take off my evil villain mask and be good wrassler again
If you do that then I'll finally know with certainty that wrasslin is fake.
(11-20-2021 02:22 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I was against the Silverfield hiring. I am only saying that so it shows the weight in what I say next. Firing Silverfield this season is not a good decision, imo. Unless we have some great coach already lined up, it would be a mistake. This season he has to replace some of the coordinators though. That is a must. If we are not much improved next season, it is reasonable in the sports community to fire him.
This^ IMO he gets one more season to right the ship.
(11-20-2021 01:39 AM)McTiger Wrote: You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuse and BS. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.
Being accountable and rational is the thing here. You’re demanding accountability to the extent of termination for one rough season despite ignoring the fairly decent season he had before under tough conditions and seasoned players. Demanding accountability due to knee-jerk cynicism is just stupid and, frankly, is what has also ruined many programs. You can hold someone accountable and demand they make changes, and if they don’t do that at some point, then it is time to let them go. This not that time. This season is, rationally, is not the time.
So you can act infantile if you want since it soothes your ego (as apparently it does Shere Khan’s), but it doesn’t pinch hit for your lack of reasoning. If you fundamentally believe one rough season warrants an irrational response despite a multitude of evidence throughout history that shows the opposite, then I can’t change your perspective on that. I adamantly would have to believe you’re a fool.
One can demand accountability and be patient. These things are not as opposing ends. It’s about being objective and not emotional. Which makes it to the end point - if your response to a rough reason is to act emotional and rant, then you’re probably the snowflake you’re trying to warn us about.
It is absolutely beyond the bounds of all rational thought and contrary to the laws of the natural universe to be lectured about maturity by someone that quotes ayn rand.
Sir, you go to far
It’s interesting for someone who is apparently a “conservative” to be anti-Ayn Rand. But once again, small brains try to evade the argument by attacking something else via ad hominem. Considering Rand’s philosophy and political views did play a role in many Republican and Libertarian opinions, your aversion to her wreaks more of a Liberal mindset.
Hence the reason for the quote.
At any rate, being petulant isn’t becoming of those who somehow try to act as my “betters” if the level of your mindset is a stunted bro who thinks wit covers up for your evading of actual thought.
In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.
I'm ready for an entire new staff but that's not likely. The university admin, especially being new probably won't move until forced. So Silverfield will probably be here next season. He should at least bring in new coordinators but probably won't. Just like MBB, the admin probably won't move until there are no fans buying tickets.
(11-20-2021 01:51 AM)TylerTiger Wrote: Being accountable and rational is the thing here. You’re demanding accountability to the extent of termination for one rough season despite ignoring the fairly decent season he had before under tough conditions and seasoned players. Demanding accountability due to knee-jerk cynicism is just stupid and, frankly, is what has also ruined many programs. You can hold someone accountable and demand they make changes, and if they don’t do that at some point, then it is time to let them go. This not that time. This season is, rationally, is not the time.
So you can act infantile if you want since it soothes your ego (as apparently it does Shere Khan’s), but it doesn’t pinch hit for your lack of reasoning. If you fundamentally believe one rough season warrants an irrational response despite a multitude of evidence throughout history that shows the opposite, then I can’t change your perspective on that. I adamantly would have to believe you’re a fool.
One can demand accountability and be patient. These things are not as opposing ends. It’s about being objective and not emotional. Which makes it to the end point - if your response to a rough reason is to act emotional and rant, then you’re probably the snowflake you’re trying to warn us about.
It is absolutely beyond the bounds of all rational thought and contrary to the laws of the natural universe to be lectured about maturity by someone that quotes ayn rand.
Sir, you go to far
It’s interesting for someone who is apparently a “conservative” to be anti-Ayn Rand. But once again, small brains try to evade the argument by attacking something else via ad hominem. Considering Rand’s philosophy and political views did play a role in many Republican and Libertarian opinions, your aversion to her wreaks more of a Liberal mindset.
Hence the reason for the quote.
At any rate, being petulant isn’t becoming of those who somehow try to act as my “betters” if the level of your mindset is a stunted bro who thinks wit covers up for your evading of actual thought.
In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.
Classical...
Classical Liberalism is always wonderful (and was the purpose of the conservative movement’s response to Progressivism in the early 1900s). So I wouldn’t understand the averse reaction to Ayn Rand. I get it from the Modern Liberals because she destroys them. But…I love you anyway Khan
It's a shame and idiotic, really. Your knowledge or ignorance of football has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you think Trump or Biden should be in the white house or whether or not you think the COVID pandemic is a world wide conspiracy to make you mad or not.
This team has lost at least 3 games, if not 4, because of horrendously poor kicking and turnovers. Kicking can be fixed, so can interceptions. Maybe it is time to look for a new coach, maybe its just been a very unlucky season. We beat MSU, lost to UTSA, I am disappointed, but I am far from predicting impending doom.
(11-20-2021 01:56 AM)shere khan Wrote: It is absolutely beyond the bounds of all rational thought and contrary to the laws of the natural universe to be lectured about maturity by someone that quotes ayn rand.
Sir, you go to far
It’s interesting for someone who is apparently a “conservative” to be anti-Ayn Rand. But once again, small brains try to evade the argument by attacking something else via ad hominem. Considering Rand’s philosophy and political views did play a role in many Republican and Libertarian opinions, your aversion to her wreaks more of a Liberal mindset.
Hence the reason for the quote.
At any rate, being petulant isn’t becoming of those who somehow try to act as my “betters” if the level of your mindset is a stunted bro who thinks wit covers up for your evading of actual thought.
In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.
Classical...
Classical Liberalism is always wonderful (and was the purpose of the conservative movement’s response to Progressivism in the early 1900s). So I wouldn’t understand the averse reaction to Ayn Rand. I get it from the Modern Liberals because she destroys them. But…I love you anyway Khan
Not adverse. Just bored to tears by Rand to the point of not going into it. Plus I'm kinda of a grumpy curmudgeon, don't take it personal.
Ah dammit....Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum has neither there virtue of a liberal altruism or the guide anything greater than self for a higher purpose. Her selfish objectivism is indulgent lazy cynicism.
There. No more. I'm out. No debating.
But feel free to do what you do
All good
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2021 11:03 AM by shere khan.)
(11-20-2021 02:04 AM)TylerTiger Wrote: It’s interesting for someone who is apparently a “conservative” to be anti-Ayn Rand. But once again, small brains try to evade the argument by attacking something else via ad hominem. Considering Rand’s philosophy and political views did play a role in many Republican and Libertarian opinions, your aversion to her wreaks more of a Liberal mindset.
Hence the reason for the quote.
At any rate, being petulant isn’t becoming of those who somehow try to act as my “betters” if the level of your mindset is a stunted bro who thinks wit covers up for your evading of actual thought.
In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.
Classical...
Classical Liberalism is always wonderful (and was the purpose of the conservative movement’s response to Progressivism in the early 1900s). So I wouldn’t understand the averse reaction to Ayn Rand. I get it from the Modern Liberals because she destroys them. But…I love you anyway Khan
Not adverse. Just bored to tears by Rand to the point of not going into it. Plus I'm kinda of a grumpy curmudgeon, don't take it personal.
No, I understand definitely. And not at all! Everything in good fun!