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RE: Probably Time to Consider a New Head FB Coach
(11-20-2021 11:03 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 10:50 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 10:35 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 07:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 02:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.

07-coffee3

Classical...

Classical Liberalism is always wonderful (and was the purpose of the conservative movement’s response to Progressivism in the early 1900s). So I wouldn’t understand the averse reaction to Ayn Rand. I get it from the Modern Liberals because she destroys them. But…I love you anyway Khan 03-wink

Not adverse. Just bored to tears by Rand to the point of not going into it. Plus I'm kinda of a grumpy curmudgeon, don't take it personal.

03-lmfao

No, I understand definitely. And not at all! Everything in good fun!

I edited my previous post. You pulled me in. No more though.
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Here it is for easy reference:

Ah dammit....Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum has neither the virtue of liberal altruism or the guide of anything greater than self for a higher purpose. Her selfish objectivism is indulgent lazy cynicism.03-puke

There. No more. I'm out. No debating

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(11-19-2021 11:20 PM)jlbphila Wrote:  It's a different era in college football. If you see a guy ain't it - why wait? Cut him loose and go get someone else.

Yep! Holding on too long and the damage done can set a program back years.
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I think he gets another year unless the kids come out and look like they've given up next Saturday. His coordinators have got to go.
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(11-20-2021 11:38 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I think he gets another year unless the kids come out and look like they've given up next Saturday. His coordinators have got to go.

I think it depends too on who hits the transfer portal & when they hit it. I think that is going to say an awful lot on the player’s confidence in the leadership of the program.
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(11-20-2021 11:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 11:38 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I think he gets another year unless the kids come out and look like they've given up next Saturday. His coordinators have got to go.

I think it depends too on who hits the transfer portal & when they hit it. I think that is going to say an awful lot on the player’s confidence in the leadership of the program.
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RE: Probably Time to Consider a New Head FB Coach
(11-20-2021 11:04 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 11:03 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 10:50 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 10:35 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 07:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Classical...

Classical Liberalism is always wonderful (and was the purpose of the conservative movement’s response to Progressivism in the early 1900s). So I wouldn’t understand the averse reaction to Ayn Rand. I get it from the Modern Liberals because she destroys them. But…I love you anyway Khan 03-wink

Not adverse. Just bored to tears by Rand to the point of not going into it. Plus I'm kinda of a grumpy curmudgeon, don't take it personal.

03-lmfao

No, I understand definitely. And not at all! Everything in good fun!

I edited my previous post. You pulled me in. No more though.
Peace

Here it is for easy reference:

Ah dammit....Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum has neither the virtue of liberal altruism or the guide of anything greater than self for a higher purpose. Her selfish objectivism is indulgent lazy cynicism.03-puke

There. No more. I'm out. No debating

03-lmfao

Lol you can’t wrap me into that and not debate!! But I’ll hold my tongue just for you

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RE: Probably Time to Consider a New Head FB Coach
(11-20-2021 01:39 AM)McTiger Wrote:  
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(11-20-2021 12:51 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 12:43 AM)McTiger Wrote:  The program is obviously in a downward spiral and something needs to be done ASAP. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t understand football, the college football landscape and is probably a liberal, millennial snowflake.

Seriously. People just now seeing this?

Seriously, after all the shite I caught for pointing it out early.

03-lmfao

I may not understand football, college football landscape, and I was born in 1988 so I am a millennial by default..

But a coach who was 8-3 in a pandemic year and then comes into this season with injuries, and more appear, and others hurt at various times, and is 5-6….probably isn’t considered a “downward spiral” in any sense except for irrational cynics.

Houston has had a 4-8, 3-5 years prior to this jump back up. Wins and Losses or down seasons are not something that will suddenly shutter the doors.

Rough seasons happen to all programs at all points of times. If there’s not massive overhauls done during the off season…then I think there is even more concern with judgment.

If I am wrong with my patience, then I am.


You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuses and BS. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.

You are one freaking loose cannon. That’s what your response to this poster implies!
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RE: Probably Time to Consider a New Head FB Coach
(11-20-2021 01:51 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 01:39 AM)McTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 01:00 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 12:51 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 12:43 AM)McTiger Wrote:  The program is obviously in a downward spiral and something needs to be done ASAP. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t understand football, the college football landscape and is probably a liberal, millennial snowflake.

Seriously. People just now seeing this?

Seriously, after all the shite I caught for pointing it out early.

03-lmfao

I may not understand football, college football landscape, and I was born in 1988 so I am a millennial by default..

But a coach who was 8-3 in a pandemic year and then comes into this season with injuries, and more appear, and others hurt at various times, and is 5-6….probably isn’t considered a “downward spiral” in any sense except for irrational cynics.

Houston has had a 4-8, 3-5 years prior to this jump back up. Wins and Losses or down seasons are not something that will suddenly shutter the doors.

Rough seasons happen to all programs at all points of times. If there’s not massive overhauls done during the off season…then I think there is even more concern with judgment.

If I am wrong with my patience, then I am.


You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuse and BS. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.

Being accountable and rational is the thing here. You’re demanding accountability to the extent of termination for one rough season despite ignoring the fairly decent season he had before under tough conditions and seasoned players. Demanding accountability due to knee-jerk cynicism is just stupid and, frankly, is what has also ruined many programs. You can hold someone accountable and demand they make changes, and if they don’t do that at some point, then it is time to let them go. This not that time. This season is, rationally, is not the time.

So you can act infantile if you want since it soothes your ego (as apparently it does Shere Khan’s), but it doesn’t pinch hit for your lack of reasoning. If you fundamentally believe one rough season warrants an irrational response despite a multitude of evidence throughout history that shows the opposite, then I can’t change your perspective on that. I adamantly would have to believe you’re a fool.

One can demand accountability and be patient. These things are not as opposing ends. It’s about being objective and not emotional. Which makes it to the end point - if your response to a rough reason is to act emotional and rant, then you’re probably the snowflake you’re trying to warn us about.

Tyler - you are the man. Well spoken words and utterly true. Thank you for a reasonable and intelligent response.
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Did canons ever get lose? I mean for real.
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(11-20-2021 02:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 02:04 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 01:56 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 01:51 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 01:39 AM)McTiger Wrote:  You’re absolutely right. Your flimsy response implies that you don’t understand anything about football, economics or accountability. All that amounted to was a list of unsubstantiated excuse and BS. Failure, excuses and sensitivity don’t pay the freaking bills so at some point you have to pull your head out of your arse and hold people accountable. That’s what’s wrong with your generation and the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you will rise to the top of your class. Don’t be a f-ing snowflake! While it may be unique, the lifestyle has proven to be unsustainable. I pray that one day you’ll learn that there are no substitutes for love, hard work and accountability.

Being accountable and rational is the thing here. You’re demanding accountability to the extent of termination for one rough season despite ignoring the fairly decent season he had before under tough conditions and seasoned players. Demanding accountability due to knee-jerk cynicism is just stupid and, frankly, is what has also ruined many programs. You can hold someone accountable and demand they make changes, and if they don’t do that at some point, then it is time to let them go. This not that time. This season is, rationally, is not the time.

So you can act infantile if you want since it soothes your ego (as apparently it does Shere Khan’s), but it doesn’t pinch hit for your lack of reasoning. If you fundamentally believe one rough season warrants an irrational response despite a multitude of evidence throughout history that shows the opposite, then I can’t change your perspective on that. I adamantly would have to believe you’re a fool.

One can demand accountability and be patient. These things are not as opposing ends. It’s about being objective and not emotional. Which makes it to the end point - if your response to a rough reason is to act emotional and rant, then you’re probably the snowflake you’re trying to warn us about.

It is absolutely beyond the bounds of all rational thought and contrary to the laws of the natural universe to be lectured about maturity by someone that quotes ayn rand.

Sir, you go to far

It’s interesting for someone who is apparently a “conservative” to be anti-Ayn Rand. But once again, small brains try to evade the argument by attacking something else via ad hominem. Considering Rand’s philosophy and political views did play a role in many Republican and Libertarian opinions, your aversion to her wreaks more of a Liberal mindset.

Hence the reason for the quote.

At any rate, being petulant isn’t becoming of those who somehow try to act as my “betters” if the level of your mindset is a stunted bro who thinks wit covers up for your evading of actual thought.

In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.

07-coffee3

^ now THAT is the silliest thing I've read in this thread...
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(11-20-2021 10:47 AM)cmt Wrote:  It's a shame and idiotic, really. Your knowledge or ignorance of football has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you think Trump or Biden should be in the white house or whether or not you think the COVID pandemic is a world wide conspiracy to make you mad or not.

This team has lost at least 3 games, if not 4, because of horrendously poor kicking and turnovers. Kicking can be fixed, so can interceptions. Maybe it is time to look for a new coach, maybe its just been a very unlucky season. We beat MSU, lost to UTSA, I am disappointed, but I am far from predicting impending doom.

Another reasonable poster. There are still a few folks on this board that make some sense.
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RE: Probably Time to Consider a New Head FB Coach
(11-20-2021 11:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 11:38 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I think he gets another year unless the kids come out and look like they've given up next Saturday. His coordinators have got to go.

I think it depends too on who hits the transfer portal & when they hit it. I think that is going to say an awful lot on the player’s confidence in the leadership of the program.
Henigan has been one of the few bright spots this yr. I assume OC/ QB coach Johns is the one working closest with this Frosh QB. I do not want to make Henigan learn a whole new system.
I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND the frustration with the offense and some of the play calling.
But, I guess I am advocating continuity is this area while making coaching changes in other areas. RS should get one more year. But, this is a very important offseason.
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(11-20-2021 12:20 PM)roachman48 Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 11:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 11:38 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I think he gets another year unless the kids come out and look like they've given up next Saturday. His coordinators have got to go.

I think it depends too on who hits the transfer portal & when they hit it. I think that is going to say an awful lot on the player’s confidence in the leadership of the program.
Henigan has been one of the few bright spots this yr. I assume OC/ QB coach Johns is the one working closest with this Frosh QB. I do not want to make Henigan learn a whole new system.
I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND the frustration with the offense and some of the play calling.
But, I guess I am advocating continuity is this area while making coaching changes in other areas. RS should get one more year. But, this is a very important offseason.

Agree
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(11-20-2021 12:11 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Did canons ever get lose? I mean for real.

There was this one time at Sunday mass, it was a mess...

Edit: That was the last time they let me be an altar boy.
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(11-20-2021 10:35 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 07:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 02:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 02:04 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 01:56 AM)shere khan Wrote:  It is absolutely beyond the bounds of all rational thought and contrary to the laws of the natural universe to be lectured about maturity by someone that quotes ayn rand.

Sir, you go to far

It’s interesting for someone who is apparently a “conservative” to be anti-Ayn Rand. But once again, small brains try to evade the argument by attacking something else via ad hominem. Considering Rand’s philosophy and political views did play a role in many Republican and Libertarian opinions, your aversion to her wreaks more of a Liberal mindset.

Hence the reason for the quote.

At any rate, being petulant isn’t becoming of those who somehow try to act as my “betters” if the level of your mindset is a stunted bro who thinks wit covers up for your evading of actual thought.

In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.

07-coffee3

Classical...

Classical Liberalism is always wonderful (and was the purpose of the conservative movement’s response to Progressivism in the early 1900s). So I wouldn’t understand the averse reaction to Ayn Rand. I get it from the Modern Liberals because she destroys them. But…I love you anyway Khan 03-wink

then you clearly stopped at the overindulgent 32,000 word Galt speech that renders AS practically unreadable...

the damn dirty commies manifesto is half as long and was far better written...the conservatives need a ghost writer.
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(11-20-2021 12:11 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Did canons ever get lose? I mean for real.

only if you sing real hard
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(11-20-2021 12:16 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 02:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 02:04 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 01:56 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 01:51 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  Being accountable and rational is the thing here. You’re demanding accountability to the extent of termination for one rough season despite ignoring the fairly decent season he had before under tough conditions and seasoned players. Demanding accountability due to knee-jerk cynicism is just stupid and, frankly, is what has also ruined many programs. You can hold someone accountable and demand they make changes, and if they don’t do that at some point, then it is time to let them go. This not that time. This season is, rationally, is not the time.

So you can act infantile if you want since it soothes your ego (as apparently it does Shere Khan’s), but it doesn’t pinch hit for your lack of reasoning. If you fundamentally believe one rough season warrants an irrational response despite a multitude of evidence throughout history that shows the opposite, then I can’t change your perspective on that. I adamantly would have to believe you’re a fool.

One can demand accountability and be patient. These things are not as opposing ends. It’s about being objective and not emotional. Which makes it to the end point - if your response to a rough reason is to act emotional and rant, then you’re probably the snowflake you’re trying to warn us about.

It is absolutely beyond the bounds of all rational thought and contrary to the laws of the natural universe to be lectured about maturity by someone that quotes ayn rand.

Sir, you go to far

It’s interesting for someone who is apparently a “conservative” to be anti-Ayn Rand. But once again, small brains try to evade the argument by attacking something else via ad hominem. Considering Rand’s philosophy and political views did play a role in many Republican and Libertarian opinions, your aversion to her wreaks more of a Liberal mindset.

Hence the reason for the quote.

At any rate, being petulant isn’t becoming of those who somehow try to act as my “betters” if the level of your mindset is a stunted bro who thinks wit covers up for your evading of actual thought.

In most ways I am a Liberal, just not the new perverse idiot incarnation of the term.

07-coffee3

^ now THAT is the silliest thing I've read in this thread...

That's because you have no perspective, all you've ever been in your young life is a lukewarm progressive. You can't understand layered opinion, it has to be linear and one dimensional for you to grasp it.
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(11-20-2021 12:20 PM)roachman48 Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 11:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(11-20-2021 11:38 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I think he gets another year unless the kids come out and look like they've given up next Saturday. His coordinators have got to go.

I think it depends too on who hits the transfer portal & when they hit it. I think that is going to say an awful lot on the player’s confidence in the leadership of the program.
Henigan has been one of the few bright spots this yr. I assume OC/ QB coach Johns is the one working closest with this Frosh QB. I do not want to make Henigan learn a whole new system.
I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND the frustration with the offense and some of the play calling.
But, I guess I am advocating continuity is this area while making coaching changes in other areas. RS should get one more year. But, this is a very important offseason.

Agreed on all points.
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loose loose loose


Are our losses really Silverfield's fault...?

Will firing him and keeping the others fix it?
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(11-20-2021 10:02 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Rey Dempsey part 2.

Dempsey never had a winning season here. Try again.
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