(11-11-2021 05:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:05 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:00 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 04:13 PM)JulesFIU07 Wrote:  

(11-10-2021 06:24 PM)wkufirst Wrote:  I hate that we are stuck with Judy and MTSU. It is really unbelievable that our fate was stuck in the hands of those idiots in Murfreesboro. Can't wait to play every conference tournament in Texas.

Why does anyone think this will be a Texas conference?

Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU hate Texas because the conference hdqtrs are there, the basketball tournament is there and travel is too difficult. Afterall, UTEP is in the middle of outer Mongolia. It takes trains, planes and automobiles plus camel rides to get there.

They ignore the fact that the basketball tournament was won on bids not favortism.
They also ignore the fact that Texas population is larger than Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Virginia and Louisiana combined but can't have more than 1 or 2 schools in the conference.

The Floida schools never complained much at all though.

They complained nonstop when it was held in Birmingham every year.

True but they wouldn't take advantage of the tourney being much closer to them. As for cities or schools bidding to host the tourney, only Birmingham and El Paso were serious enough to guarantee the conference would make money. Just saying let's have it in Nashville isn't going to cut it. If Nashville bids and wins then great, I would love that.

I'd rather the top seed host than give another program an advantage because they bid higher. If it comes down to who bids the most then the CCG is going to be in Lynchburg until Liberty flies the coop. C-USA isn't regional enough for a neutral site to really work in my opinion. Better to protect your best teams and give the conference a better chance of sending its best to the dance.

(11-11-2021 05:33 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:05 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:00 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 04:13 PM)JulesFIU07 Wrote:  Why does anyone think this will be a Texas conference?

Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU hate Texas because the conference hdqtrs are there, the basketball tournament is there and travel is too difficult. Afterall, UTEP is in the middle of outer Mongolia. It takes trains, planes and automobiles plus camel rides to get there.

They ignore the fact that the basketball tournament was won on bids not favortism.
They also ignore the fact that Texas population is larger than Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Virginia and Louisiana combined but can't have more than 1 or 2 schools in the conference.

The Floida schools never complained much at all though.

They complained nonstop when it was held in Birmingham every year.

True but they wouldn't take advantage of the tourney being much closer to them. As for cities or schools bidding to host the tourney, only Birmingham and El Paso were serious enough to guarantee the conference would make money. Just saying let's have it in Nashville isn't going to cut it. If Nashville bids and wins then great, I would love that.

I'd rather the top seed host than give another program an advantage because they bid higher. If it comes down to who bids the most then the CCG is going to be in Lynchburg until Liberty flies the coop. C-USA isn't regional enough for a neutral site to really work in my opinion. Better to protect your best teams and give the conference a better chance of sending its best to the dance.

That would be a good way to go for a far flung conerence. But to ensure good crowds have higher seeds host lower ones until semifinals. Final 4 at highest remaining seed.

(11-11-2021 05:33 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:05 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:00 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 04:13 PM)JulesFIU07 Wrote:  Why does anyone think this will be a Texas conference?

Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU hate Texas because the conference hdqtrs are there, the basketball tournament is there and travel is too difficult. Afterall, UTEP is in the middle of outer Mongolia. It takes trains, planes and automobiles plus camel rides to get there.

They ignore the fact that the basketball tournament was won on bids not favortism.
They also ignore the fact that Texas population is larger than Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Virginia and Louisiana combined but can't have more than 1 or 2 schools in the conference.

The Floida schools never complained much at all though.

They complained nonstop when it was held in Birmingham every year.

True but they wouldn't take advantage of the tourney being much closer to them. As for cities or schools bidding to host the tourney, only Birmingham and El Paso were serious enough to guarantee the conference would make money. Just saying let's have it in Nashville isn't going to cut it. If Nashville bids and wins then great, I would love that.

I'd rather the top seed host than give another program an advantage because they bid higher. If it comes down to who bids the most then the CCG is going to be in Lynchburg until Liberty flies the coop. C-USA isn't regional enough for a neutral site to really work in my opinion. Better to protect your best teams and give the conference a better chance of sending its best to the dance.

That could work but puts schools like us in a financial disadvantage. We use the Haskins Center for year round concerts and events. Last night it had a capacity crowd for Ricky Martin and someone else. With out confirmation until last week of the season we would have to keep our schedule free in case we finsih #1. I could see how that set up benefits small towns but UTEP wouldn't agree to it.

(11-11-2021 05:55 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:33 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:05 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:00 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU hate Texas because the conference hdqtrs are there, the basketball tournament is there and travel is too difficult. Afterall, UTEP is in the middle of outer Mongolia. It takes trains, planes and automobiles plus camel rides to get there.

They ignore the fact that the basketball tournament was won on bids not favortism.
They also ignore the fact that Texas population is larger than Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Virginia and Louisiana combined but can't have more than 1 or 2 schools in the conference.

The Floida schools never complained much at all though.

They complained nonstop when it was held in Birmingham every year.

True but they wouldn't take advantage of the tourney being much closer to them. As for cities or schools bidding to host the tourney, only Birmingham and El Paso were serious enough to guarantee the conference would make money. Just saying let's have it in Nashville isn't going to cut it. If Nashville bids and wins then great, I would love that.

I'd rather the top seed host than give another program an advantage because they bid higher. If it comes down to who bids the most then the CCG is going to be in Lynchburg until Liberty flies the coop. C-USA isn't regional enough for a neutral site to really work in my opinion. Better to protect your best teams and give the conference a better chance of sending its best to the dance.

That could work but puts schools like us in a financial disadvantage. We use the Haskins Center for year round concerts and events. Last night it had a capacity crowd for Ricky Martin and someone else. With out confirmation until last week of the season we would have to keep our schedule free in case we finsih #1. I could see how that set up benefits small towns but UTEP wouldn't agree to it.

UTEP can't keep their gym available for a Wednesday-Saturday in March? Guess you guys need to build a 2nd arena like Liberty.

Jokes aside when I look at the event calendar for the Don Haskins Center it is certainly busy, but doesn't seem prohibitively so.

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(11-11-2021 06:09 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:55 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:33 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:05 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  They complained nonstop when it was held in Birmingham every year.

True but they wouldn't take advantage of the tourney being much closer to them. As for cities or schools bidding to host the tourney, only Birmingham and El Paso were serious enough to guarantee the conference would make money. Just saying let's have it in Nashville isn't going to cut it. If Nashville bids and wins then great, I would love that.

I'd rather the top seed host than give another program an advantage because they bid higher. If it comes down to who bids the most then the CCG is going to be in Lynchburg until Liberty flies the coop. C-USA isn't regional enough for a neutral site to really work in my opinion. Better to protect your best teams and give the conference a better chance of sending its best to the dance.

That could work but puts schools like us in a financial disadvantage. We use the Haskins Center for year round concerts and events. Last night it had a capacity crowd for Ricky Martin and someone else. With out confirmation until last week of the season we would have to keep our schedule free in case we finsih #1. I could see how that set up benefits small towns but UTEP wouldn't agree to it.

UTEP can't keep their gym available for a Wednesday-Saturday in March? Guess you guys need to build a 2nd arena like Liberty.

Jokes aside when I look at the event calendar for the Don Haskins Center it is certainly busy, but doesn't seem prohibitively so.

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Unfortunately El Paso is run by idiots. We approved a 200 million dollar arena back in 2012 and it's still not built and probably never will. Main reason why I finally had enough and moved away from El Paso in 2017.

Quote:I know you think I have some sort of personal grudge against EKU. I don't. You guys might do just fine in FBS. It just makes very little sense for C-USA to add you right now. The biggest reason why is because it makes no sense to go past 10.

No, I get it if you're stopping at ten. I just suspect we wouldn't get in beyond that either. I could be wrong. I'm not really arguing against finding teams that are a better fit so much as I am speculating that WKU wouldn't let us in even if it made sense. There are at least some reasons to go beyond ten. There's likely to be more movement, and the teams that aren't part of it probably don't look like they're doing a complete rebuild for the second time in five years. The NCAA is also about to make it much harder to move up, so that could complicate things a little the next time around. But I also defended stopping at 10 on the Maroon-Nation board because right now you're doing this rebuild with only two FCS call-ups. Optically that's pretty good.

But we'd be just fine in making this work. I wouldn't have said that more than five years ago, but we genuinely have leadership with vision from the President to the board to the AD right now.

As far as ticket sales go, we just set a basketball all-time record for season tickets last week, and football was averaging over 12,000 a a game until one bad crowd against a terrible Lamar team on a rainy day brought it down to somewhere around 10,000 with one game against JSU remaining. But considering there were only 15,000 in Houchens-Smith on a perfect day against your biggest rival, our numbers don't seem too far behind considering we're doing all of this against FCS competition and without a major rival to give our numbers a boost.

The recruiting footprint thing is overrated. I'd go back to the MAC again. No one has survived all of this more unscathed than they have, and 75% of their conference is in two states. They have six schools in one state.

There are a lot of options, and I hardly think EKU is the only one. I just think the idea that we don't bring anything at all to the table is a little outdated. This isn't your grandpa's EKU anymore.

(11-11-2021 07:59 PM)eku05 Wrote:  

Quote:I know you think I have some sort of personal grudge against EKU. I don't. You guys might do just fine in FBS. It just makes very little sense for C-USA to add you right now. The biggest reason why is because it makes no sense to go past 10.

No, I get it if you're stopping at ten. I just suspect we wouldn't get in beyond that either. I could be wrong. I'm not really arguing against finding teams that are a better fit so much as I am speculating that WKU wouldn't let us in even if it made sense. There are at least some reasons to go beyond ten. There's likely to be more movement, and the teams that aren't part of it probably don't look like they're doing a complete rebuild for the second time in five years. The NCAA is also about to make it much harder to move up, so that could complicate things a little the next time around. But I also defended stopping at 10 on the Maroon-Nation board because right now you're doing this rebuild with only two FCS call-ups. Optically that's pretty good.

But we'd be just fine in making this work. I wouldn't have said that more than five years ago, but we genuinely have leadership with vision from the President to the board to the AD right now.

As far as ticket sales go, we just set a basketball all-time record for season tickets last week, and football was averaging over 12,000 a a game until one bad crowd against a terrible Lamar team on a rainy day brought it down to somewhere around 10,000 with one game against JSU remaining. But considering there were only 15,000 in Houchens-Smith on a perfect day against your biggest rival, our numbers don't seem too far behind considering we're doing all of this against FCS competition and without a major rival to give our numbers a boost.

The recruiting footprint thing is overrated. I'd go back to the MAC again. No one has survived all of this more unscathed than they have, and 75% of their conference is in two states. They have six schools in one state.

There are a lot of options, and I hardly think EKU is the only one. I just think the idea that we don't bring anything at all to the table is a little outdated. This isn't your grandpa's EKU anymore.

You guys could definitely be an option at some point. I think just having institutional and administrative support does not always equal success though. UNT has those things. USM has those things. They have still had their struggles of late. EKU needs to show it on the field and court with consistency first.

(11-11-2021 06:15 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 06:09 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:55 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:33 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  True but they wouldn't take advantage of the tourney being much closer to them. As for cities or schools bidding to host the tourney, only Birmingham and El Paso were serious enough to guarantee the conference would make money. Just saying let's have it in Nashville isn't going to cut it. If Nashville bids and wins then great, I would love that.

I'd rather the top seed host than give another program an advantage because they bid higher. If it comes down to who bids the most then the CCG is going to be in Lynchburg until Liberty flies the coop. C-USA isn't regional enough for a neutral site to really work in my opinion. Better to protect your best teams and give the conference a better chance of sending its best to the dance.

That could work but puts schools like us in a financial disadvantage. We use the Haskins Center for year round concerts and events. Last night it had a capacity crowd for Ricky Martin and someone else. With out confirmation until last week of the season we would have to keep our schedule free in case we finsih #1. I could see how that set up benefits small towns but UTEP wouldn't agree to it.

UTEP can't keep their gym available for a Wednesday-Saturday in March? Guess you guys need to build a 2nd arena like Liberty.

Jokes aside when I look at the event calendar for the Don Haskins Center it is certainly busy, but doesn't seem prohibitively so.

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Unfortunately El Paso is run by idiots. We approved a 200 million dollar arena back in 2012 and it's still not built and probably never will. Main reason why I finally had enough and moved away from El Paso in 2017.

Its still the same. We elected a car salesman as mayor after all.

(11-11-2021 06:15 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 06:09 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:55 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:33 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 05:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  True but they wouldn't take advantage of the tourney being much closer to them. As for cities or schools bidding to host the tourney, only Birmingham and El Paso were serious enough to guarantee the conference would make money. Just saying let's have it in Nashville isn't going to cut it. If Nashville bids and wins then great, I would love that.

I'd rather the top seed host than give another program an advantage because they bid higher. If it comes down to who bids the most then the CCG is going to be in Lynchburg until Liberty flies the coop. C-USA isn't regional enough for a neutral site to really work in my opinion. Better to protect your best teams and give the conference a better chance of sending its best to the dance.

That could work but puts schools like us in a financial disadvantage. We use the Haskins Center for year round concerts and events. Last night it had a capacity crowd for Ricky Martin and someone else. With out confirmation until last week of the season we would have to keep our schedule free in case we finsih #1. I could see how that set up benefits small towns but UTEP wouldn't agree to it.

UTEP can't keep their gym available for a Wednesday-Saturday in March? Guess you guys need to build a 2nd arena like Liberty.

Jokes aside when I look at the event calendar for the Don Haskins Center it is certainly busy, but doesn't seem prohibitively so.

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Unfortunately El Paso is run by idiots. We approved a 200 million dollar arena back in 2012 and it's still not built and probably never will. Main reason why I finally had enough and moved away from El Paso in 2017.

Its still the same. We elected a car salesman as mayor after all.

(11-10-2021 10:29 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Boring boring boring and boring. It’s not southern football. Or even good football. I get it you guys want to feel wanted. But u cOULD actually make something here. SAM Houston will give you more quality football than Toledo

“ Sam Houston will give you more quality football than Toledo “
Well OK if that’s what you want to believe !!
Enlighten us next time SHS hosts Miami(the U), BYU, Missouri, several Big Ten schools numerous times, Colorado, Pitt, Syracuse, Cincy, Boise State, and Navy if and when they come to visit that fabled FCS stadium....
And, umm the Rockets have knocked off a few decent programs - Michigan/Penn State/Arkansas/BYU/Pitt/Cincy/Purdue-3 times/Minnesota-twice... So let’s hear it for that powerhouse Sam Houston that will give you more quality football than Toledo ...

(11-11-2021 09:41 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  

(11-11-2021 07:50 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(11-10-2021 10:55 PM)Utgrizfan Wrote:  Have to say I'm happy to see the conference survive and I think WKU and MTSU made the right choice staying put. Conference Divisons won't be terribly spread out (outside of FIU) and I think adding one more member is going to happen so you will have x2 even 5 team divisions. I know Missouri state is the popular choice since it has been mentioned so much on here has there been any word on them joining the conference or any other teams they're looking at?

Tarleton State really honestly isn't as bad of a pick as I originally thought as they are seriously investing and expanding rapidly, I believe they just approve 18 million something dollars to increase the size of their Stadium to 25k.

It was not WKU’s choice at all

I don't think it was wku's choice and not really MT's choice either given what reportedly the MAC was demanding. I think the MAC is so stable that they really didn't want any change/addition to their membership so their GOR demand if reported correctly, was meant to be discouraging to any but the most desperate.

I am no fan of any of Middle Tennessee's leadership, but they stumbled, probably, into the wiser decision here, and in the interim, may have saved wku from making a terrible mistake. And to top it off, wku's AD gets to shift the 'blame' for not getting a MAC invite on their own merits to Middle Tennessee.

You're welcome.

I agree...

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Would love Nashville as a tourney site. NM State, UTEP, and Liberty would all travel well, while WKU and MTSU would turn out big considering their proximity.

The other obvious option is El Paso/Las Cruces. Use both the Pan Am and the Don Haskins to host. Crowds would be raucous.

(11-11-2021 10:52 PM)pistolp747 Wrote:  Would love Nashville as a tourney site. NM State, UTEP, and Liberty would all travel well, while WKU and MTSU would turn out big considering their proximity.

The other obvious option is El Paso/Las Cruces. Use both the Pan Am and the Don Haskins to host. Crowds would be raucous.

I would favor New Orleans. It's a notable city in the C-USA footprint, and we can taunt the Sun Belt there for the lols (since their headquarters is in the Superdome).

I would also be fine with Nashville as a site.

As an Aggie, I am wholly in favor of a shared site between Las Cruces and El Paso. That said, I believe I may be subject to bias with regards to that.

(11-10-2021 09:21 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(11-10-2021 09:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(11-10-2021 08:59 PM)eku05 Wrote:  

(11-10-2021 08:30 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  

(11-10-2021 07:55 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Now is the time to invite EKU. What is WKU going to do about it?

What is it that people don't want a school they don't like? That's what make games like Ohio St-Michigan extra interesting.

Get Lost with your eku

In all sincerity...what is it Western is so averse to about playing in a conference with us? I mean, your games against us always drew better than what you got against your supposed biggest rival last week on a beautiful day.

I'm not here to troll, but it really just seems like WKU would rather claim perceived superiority than have to prove it on a level playing field. Let's compete! Let's put people in the stands! EKU is investing in athletics like never before right now, and we've got great coaching staffs in place. It would be the athletic equivalent of buying a stock low. We're going to make someone look very good when we get our shot.

I really admire what WKU has done with their FBS move, and we just want our shot. We have a university that's ready to make the most of it whenever it comes.

(Incidentally our remaining two games this season are against teams bound for C-USA. We travel to Sam Houston State this week, and we host JSU in the regular season finale).

Looks like you guys are having a decent season so far...Ranked #25 and a record of 6-3. I also saw that yall beat Tarleton State 20-3. Did yall take it easy on them?

I’m not advocating for Tarleton St just to make sure no one accuses me of it. However, they are way ahead of schedule in transition to the FCS. They didn’t get embarrassed by SHSU (#1 FCS), they have beaten multiple FCS teams this year and let’s not forget they beat the s*** out of NMSU in February of this year (43-17). Just pointing out some things. I know some Aggie fans will be upset I brought that up lol.

Hey eku fans. Quit blaming WKU about you not being FBS. Do you
Really think anything written on these boards makes a hill of beans difference on what happens. According to these boards and tweets by well known sports reporters WKU is now in the MAC conference.

What you find out is every school is out for themselves Do you think the 9 schools that left cared weather CUSA folded. Nope they went on to the AAC and SBC.

Let’s do a little review

1. When the Sun Belt expanded the last time it was down to them
Selecting Eku or Coastal Carolina
What happened. They chose Coastal
This had absolutely nothing to do with WKU
As we are members of CUSA not the Sun Belt

Now the Sun Belt recently selected another FCS team
They could have selected eku but they chose JMU. That
Decision also had nothing to do with WKU

Then when CUSA had to find schools they chose schools to fill in
Where their remaining members were for travel partners.
CUSA chose Sam Houston close to LaTech. NMSU close to
UTEP. Jacksonville State to get back into Alabama for losing UAB

MTSU and WKU were already travel partners in Tennesse and Kentucky. They did not need another travel partner in Tennessee or Kentucky.

The only other FBS independent that would come as a full member was Liberty so none of this was ever about eku or someone blocking eku

So stop blaming WKU we have been screwed more over the years
Than any team. We were left high and dry when Louisville kept us out
Of the Metro Conference and we were left with just 3 teams WKU, Jacksonville and USA
In that case 3 of the same schools that bailed out of that conference and left us
High and dry were the same ones that did it this time. ODU, UAB, and UNCC.

As a matter of fact eku voted to kick us out of
The Ohio Valley Conference when we had our football in the OVC
And other sports in the Sun Belt. This led to us almost losing our whole football program because
We were then an independent and the WKU board of Regents was going to vote to disband football
If not for Jack Harbaugh proposing a bare bones plan we would not
Have a football program today

But why would WKU want another Kentucky school to compete
For FBS recruits in the state anyway.

And as far as the battle of the Bluegrass nobody ever paid attention to that anyway. The only battle
Of the bluegrass that anybody cares about is between UK and Louisville.

So Don’t put your lack of an invite on us. We have had enough done to us
And quite frankly I don’t know how great being in the FBS group of 5 member actually is. So far none have had the chance to play for a championship yet. Even going undefeated does not get you a spot

Eastern Kentucky probably would have been invited into C-USA if Western Kentucky had successfully gotten into the MAC. A Tennessee school (probably UT Chattanooga) would probably have been invited to replace Middle Tennessee in C-USA. With C-USA set up as it is now, seeing either invited into C-USA looks unlikely.

(11-12-2021 02:12 AM)rtist Wrote:  Eastern Kentucky probably would have been invited into C-USA if Western Kentucky had successfully gotten into the MAC. A Tennessee school (probably UT Chattanooga) would probably have been invited to replace Middle Tennessee in C-USA. With C-USA set up as it is now, seeing either invited into C-USA looks unlikely.

I think they would have had a much better chance.

If WKU and MTSU had moved to the MAC, I don't know if C-USA would care an awful lot about getting back into the state of KY. I'd imagine the adds would have been Texas centric.