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a look into the New Additions Stadiums and Arenas
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UNT: Apogee stadium: 30k capacity

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FAU: FAU Stadium: 30k capacity

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UTSA: Alamodome: up to 60k Capacity -- offcampus stadium

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Rice: Rice Stadium: 47k , can easily go to 70k capacity (they removed a ton of seats and put tarps over it, seats can be put back )

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Charlotte: Jerry Richardson Stadium: 15k Capacity

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UAB: Protective Stadium: 47,100 Capacity

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how id rank them (subjective you dont have to agree)

1) UNT
2) UAB
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3) UTSA - great stadium, offcampus and not theirs
4) Rice - great stadium that is too big for them
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5) FAU- something about it gives g5/non aq vibes
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6) Charlotte - there are high schools in texas with better stadiums...15k capacity is insanely too small - smallest in the "p6" by 10k, remove tulane by 15k
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RE: a look into the New Additions Stadiums and Arenas
Basketball

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UTSA: Convocation Center : 4K Capacity

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Charlotte: Dale F. Halton Arena : 9k capacity

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Rice: Tudor Fieldhouse: 5k capacity

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FAU: FAU Arena: 3k capacity

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UNT: UNT Coliseum ("The Super Pit") : 10k Capacity

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UAB: Bartow Arena: 8.5k

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how id rank them (subjective you dont have to agree)

1) UAB
2) Charlotte
3) UNT
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4) Rice- Juco arena
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5) Utsa-High School arena
6) FAU- poor high school's arena
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RE: a look into the New Additions Stadiums and Arenas
Bonus: has a specialized indoor practice facility for just that sport

UNT- Yes for football and no for basketball (but an indoor all sports facility with a basketball court)
UTSA- No for basketball.. and Building one right now for football*
FAU- No in both sports
UNCC- No in both sports (but an indoor all sports facility with a basketball court)
UAB- Yes* in football, No in basketball but has plans to build one
Rice- Yes* in football (they have an inflatable bubble), No in basketball

(* meams they have a covered field, not a true indoor air-conditioned practice field)

overall analysis-
UNT's facilities are likely the best coming in, and better than some AAC
UAB is a close 2nd

Rice has passable facilities - none of it is good, but it doesn't hurt them
UTSA - utsa is spending 40mil on a training facility, they would have been better off investing in a basketball arena

charlotte - has to do something about the football stadium

FAU- has horrific facilities
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I've been to Charlotte for Temple/Charlotte. It's a nice stadium, but damn is it small.
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The super pit is pretty rad
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(10-19-2021 01:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  Charlotte - No in both sports

In 2002 the Miltimore-Wallis Athletics Training and Academics Center was opened providing a new weight room, The Charles Hayward Memorial Practice Court, Video Communications Center, new Media Relations Office and new coaches' offices for men and women's basketball and volleyball.

(10-19-2021 01:52 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  I've been to Charlotte for Temple/Charlotte. It's a nice stadium, but damn is it small.

Imagine we'll be hearing something on this soon.
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Just out of curiosity... UNT and FAU have the same capacity (well, technically, UNT's stadium fits about 1000 people more), both stadiums were opened in the same year (2011). Apogee Stadium and FAU Stadium have a similar amount of luxury suite capacity and club seats. The areas outside the stadium and parking seem to be in favor of FAU. I am not sure why you see UNT's stadium that much better than FAU's
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(10-19-2021 01:57 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  Charlotte - No in both sports

In 2002 the Miltimore-Wallis Athletics Training and Academics Center was opened providing a new weight room, The Charles Hayward Memorial Practice Court, Video Communications Center, new Media Relations Office and new coaches' offices for men and women's basketball and volleyball.

(10-19-2021 01:52 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  I've been to Charlotte for Temple/Charlotte. It's a nice stadium, but damn is it small.

Imagine we'll be hearing something on this soon.

i noted a specilized basketball facility.. not a general sports training facility that had a basketball court

Houston open its basketball training facility like 4 years ago, but had a practice court in the generic student-athlete training facility before that ..the court wasnt a basketball facility
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(10-19-2021 01:57 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  Charlotte - No in both sports

In 2002 the Miltimore-Wallis Athletics Training and Academics Center was opened providing a new weight room, The Charles Hayward Memorial Practice Court, Video Communications Center, new Media Relations Office and new coaches' offices for men and women's basketball and volleyball.

(10-19-2021 01:52 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  I've been to Charlotte for Temple/Charlotte. It's a nice stadium, but damn is it small.

Imagine we'll be hearing something on this soon.

Any chatter on what the increase could be?
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Haven't been to a game there but Charlotte's arena looks better than Bartow on TV. Bartow has solid bones but could use a refresh inside and out. UAB's football stadium should definitely be #1 though.

Takeaway from this list seems to be that Charlotte needs to improve its football stadium and FAU needs to get its facility game together.
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(10-19-2021 02:00 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Just out of curiosity... UNT and FAU have the same capacity (well, technically, UNT's stadium fits about 1000 people more), both stadiums were opened in the same year (2011). Apogee Stadium and FAU Stadium have a similar amount of luxury suite capacity and club seats. The areas outside the stadium and parking seem to be in favor of FAU. I am not sure why you see UNT's stadium that much better than FAU's

I see your point on that. I’ve been to UNT’s and it’s nice in person and only seen FAU’s on TV and it just looked really full of plastic and assumed it was kind of how UCF just threw something together to have one.
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(10-19-2021 02:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:57 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  Charlotte - No in both sports

In 2002 the Miltimore-Wallis Athletics Training and Academics Center was opened providing a new weight room, The Charles Hayward Memorial Practice Court, Video Communications Center, new Media Relations Office and new coaches' offices for men and women's basketball and volleyball.

(10-19-2021 01:52 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  I've been to Charlotte for Temple/Charlotte. It's a nice stadium, but damn is it small.

Imagine we'll be hearing something on this soon.

i noted a specilized basketball facility.. not a general sports training facility that had a basketball court

Houston open its basketball training facility like 4 years ago, but had a practice court in the generic student-athlete training facility before that ..the court wasnt a basketball facility

That seems a bit nit-picky, but okay. Guess having volleyball in there is a deal breaker?

Since it does the exact same job as a "Specialized" basketball practice facility, and basketball is it's primary tenant, don't look for us to build another one to replace it anytime soon.
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(10-19-2021 02:08 PM)vcoog Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 02:00 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Just out of curiosity... UNT and FAU have the same capacity (well, technically, UNT's stadium fits about 1000 people more), both stadiums were opened in the same year (2011). Apogee Stadium and FAU Stadium have a similar amount of luxury suite capacity and club seats. The areas outside the stadium and parking seem to be in favor of FAU. I am not sure why you see UNT's stadium that much better than FAU's

I see your point on that. I’ve been to UNT’s and it’s nice in person and only seen FAU’s on TV and it just looked really full of plastic and assumed it was kind of how UCF just threw something together to have one.

I understand why people have that feeling, because FAU's stadium is steel-based, which allows it to be expandable to 50,000 (sources say 65k) seats.

A bigger problem is filling the stadium, although in 2018 we had 31000 for UCF.
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(10-19-2021 02:00 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Just out of curiosity... UNT and FAU have the same capacity (well, technically, UNT's stadium fits about 1000 people more), both stadiums were opened in the same year (2011). Apogee Stadium and FAU Stadium have a similar amount of luxury suite capacity and club seats. The areas outside the stadium and parking seem to be in favor of FAU. I am not sure why you see UNT's stadium that much better than FAU's

like i noted its subjective ...the basketall arena is objectively bad.. but the football arena is subjective... something about it just feels "g5".. even watching games on tv it doesnt feel like im watching big time ..something about the design

UNT on the other hand, i feel you could swtich with an aac or acc not named clemson and i dont thnk anyone would notice
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Charlotte will increase their football capacity. They'll do it first class too. They have excellent core athletic facilitie, their stadium will be no different. I imagine a stadium enlargement and IPF facility announced as one project. Honestly football only needs 30 to 35 thousand. Don't know why so many are dogging Charlotte. Big school, big city, nice facilities, money, airport......
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Charlotte didn't get into the AAC without it being clearly stated that the football stadium has to be upgraded. Master plan will likely coincide with AAC official announcement. Expansion, IPF and more goodies to be included.
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(10-19-2021 02:15 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 02:00 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Just out of curiosity... UNT and FAU have the same capacity (well, technically, UNT's stadium fits about 1000 people more), both stadiums were opened in the same year (2011). Apogee Stadium and FAU Stadium have a similar amount of luxury suite capacity and club seats. The areas outside the stadium and parking seem to be in favor of FAU. I am not sure why you see UNT's stadium that much better than FAU's

like i noted its subjective ...the basketall arena is objectively bad.. but the football arena is subjective... something about it just feels "g5".. even watching games on tv it doesnt feel like im watching big time ..something about the design

UNT on the other hand, i feel you could swtich with an aac or acc not named clemson and i dont thnk anyone would notice

Maybe the empty seats, at times?
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That looks like an outdated photo of Rice Stadium. Didn't they do away with one end zone and put tarps over the other?
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(10-19-2021 01:52 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  I've been to Charlotte for Temple/Charlotte. It's a nice stadium, but damn is it small.

That game was a monsoon.
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(10-19-2021 02:03 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:57 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 01:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  Charlotte - No in both sports

In 2002 the Miltimore-Wallis Athletics Training and Academics Center was opened providing a new weight room, The Charles Hayward Memorial Practice Court, Video Communications Center, new Media Relations Office and new coaches' offices for men and women's basketball and volleyball.

(10-19-2021 01:52 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  I've been to Charlotte for Temple/Charlotte. It's a nice stadium, but damn is it small.

Imagine we'll be hearing something on this soon.

Any chatter on what the increase could be?

We have a leaked draft version of our Athletics Facilities Master Plan from 2019.

The file I have is too big so I'll give the Cliff's Notes.

Phase I Stadium Expansion is 15k seats for $65.146 M
Phase II Stadium Expansion is another 15k for $58.204 M
IPF is $29.822 M

(10-19-2021 02:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Since it does the exact same job as a "Specialized" basketball practice facility, and basketball is it's primary tenant, don't look for us to build another one to replace it anytime soon.

Guess I lied:

Basketball Training and Student Enhancement Facility: $42.699 M
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