(10-14-2021 06:23 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 03:45 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:54 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 05:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  1) I feel like there are too many FCS programs with FBS aspirations for CUSA to die. Plus, that scenario has a lot of poaching. They could end up with 8-10 teams to rebuild with.

2) I'll be shocked if the SBC doesn't use this opportunity to find a way into Florida. It's ridiculous that they don't have a team there.

One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

MTSU or WKU won the Vic Bubas Cup every year in the Sun Belt as long as they were in the league. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette have been in Division 1-A much longer than those two--UL-Lafayette always having been D1. They suffered then from the same thing Southern Miss does in CUSA now--being angry at those schools who basically swept into their division and conference and passed them by. They don't have any lost love for FAU, FIU, and North Texas either. It has been their sick fantasy to see those five schools want to better themselves in Conference USA. They feel the same way about Louisiana Tech too for rejecting the Slum Belch to stay in the WAC around 2005-ish.

This might be the most asinine thing I've read today

Sure, Arkansas State fan. People can tell every time one of you guys comment that you hope those schools fail.

Someone has a problem with projection.

(10-14-2021 06:56 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 06:23 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 03:45 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:54 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

MTSU or WKU won the Vic Bubas Cup every year in the Sun Belt as long as they were in the league. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette have been in Division 1-A much longer than those two--UL-Lafayette always having been D1. They suffered then from the same thing Southern Miss does in CUSA now--being angry at those schools who basically swept into their division and conference and passed them by. They don't have any lost love for FAU, FIU, and North Texas either. It has been their sick fantasy to see those five schools want to better themselves in Conference USA. They feel the same way about Louisiana Tech too for rejecting the Slum Belch to stay in the WAC around 2005-ish.

This might be the most asinine thing I've read today

Sure, Arkansas State fan. People can tell every time one of you guys comment that you hope those schools fail.

Someone has a problem with projection.

Yep. And that someone can sit back and pass judgment on everyone because he’s too dishonest to state who he pulls for. Although he’s very hard for ltur, oh, and coosa.

I just don't see a significant enough difference between C-USA and SBC for a team from either conference finding it worth the exit and entrance fees to jump. The revenues are nearly equal and I don't think two or four teams moving from one to the other will significantly change a media deal.

(10-14-2021 08:19 PM)galojah Wrote:  I just don't see a significant enough difference between C-USA and SBC for a team from either conference finding it worth the exit and entrance fees to jump. The revenues are nearly equal and I don't think two or four teams moving from one to the other will significantly change a media deal.

Stability though. I think a lot of conference moves are more about stability and dropping dead weight you can’t get rid of otherwise. If CUSA loses 2 to 4 to the AAC. Their expansion pool just isn’t there.

(10-14-2021 08:19 PM)galojah Wrote:  I just don't see a significant enough difference between C-USA and SBC for a team from either conference finding it worth the exit and entrance fees to jump. The revenues are nearly equal and I don't think two or four teams moving from one to the other will significantly change a media deal.

They should strike a deal where one team can move for free if they can find another team who wants to move in the other direction.

(10-14-2021 08:19 PM)galojah Wrote:  I just don't see a significant enough difference between C-USA and SBC for a team from either conference finding it worth the exit and entrance fees to jump. The revenues are nearly equal and I don't think two or four teams moving from one to the other will significantly change a media deal.

Yeah, I think the CUSA teams will jump to SB to be delusional.

Now I could easily see Texas St. jumping to CUSA as is. And maybe some of the easternmost teams. CUSA has an eastern core and western core. Sun Belt doesn't have the concentration even if it doesn't go all the way to El Paso and Norfolk. The geography for the eastern CUSA teams would be more problematic in the Sun Belt.

(10-14-2021 09:13 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 08:19 PM)galojah Wrote:  I just don't see a significant enough difference between C-USA and SBC for a team from either conference finding it worth the exit and entrance fees to jump. The revenues are nearly equal and I don't think two or four teams moving from one to the other will significantly change a media deal.

They should strike a deal where one team can move for free if they can find another team who wants to move in the other direction.

And maybe now that is something that can finally happen.

I dont see CUSA going down to 6 teams. I'm not convinced the MWC will expand or that anyone will leave for the Belt. Wasnt USM supposed to leave for the SBC 2 weeks ago, according to all the rumors? CUSA dropping to 8 or 10 wouldn't be a bad thing. I think NMSU and Liberty are the two schools I'd go after first. MO State and JMU would also be solid additions.

(10-14-2021 06:23 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 03:45 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:54 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 05:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  1) I feel like there are too many FCS programs with FBS aspirations for CUSA to die. Plus, that scenario has a lot of poaching. They could end up with 8-10 teams to rebuild with.

2) I'll be shocked if the SBC doesn't use this opportunity to find a way into Florida. It's ridiculous that they don't have a team there.

One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

MTSU or WKU won the Vic Bubas Cup every year in the Sun Belt as long as they were in the league. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette have been in Division 1-A much longer than those two--UL-Lafayette always having been D1. They suffered then from the same thing Southern Miss does in CUSA now--being angry at those schools who basically swept into their division and conference and passed them by. They don't have any lost love for FAU, FIU, and North Texas either. It has been their sick fantasy to see those five schools want to better themselves in Conference USA. They feel the same way about Louisiana Tech too for rejecting the Slum Belch to stay in the WAC around 2005-ish.

This might be the most asinine thing I've read today

Sure, Arkansas State fan. People can tell every time one of you guys comment that you hope those schools fail.

When you throw crap at the Sun Belt fans, don't be surprised when somebody throws some back.

(10-14-2021 09:34 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 06:23 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 03:45 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:54 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

MTSU or WKU won the Vic Bubas Cup every year in the Sun Belt as long as they were in the league. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette have been in Division 1-A much longer than those two--UL-Lafayette always having been D1. They suffered then from the same thing Southern Miss does in CUSA now--being angry at those schools who basically swept into their division and conference and passed them by. They don't have any lost love for FAU, FIU, and North Texas either. It has been their sick fantasy to see those five schools want to better themselves in Conference USA. They feel the same way about Louisiana Tech too for rejecting the Slum Belch to stay in the WAC around 2005-ish.

This might be the most asinine thing I've read today

Sure, Arkansas State fan. People can tell every time one of you guys comment that you hope those schools fail.

When you throw crap at the Sun Belt fans, don't be surprised when somebody throws some back.

Uhhhh. Look around. They've been throwing garbage for 8 years. 8 f***ing years! I haven't been posting that long, but forum logs apparently go back that far and show the pissyness of Belch fans in Lafayette and Jonesboro for the defectors and La Tech all that time.

(10-13-2021 06:58 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  The realignment rumors are kind of all over the map.

MWC-14 (UTSA, UNT)
AAC-14 (Rice, LaTech, UAB, Marshall, App St, FAU)
SBC-14 (USM, WKU, MT, Charlotte, FIU)

I think it does make sense for the SBC to grab a Florida presence. If USF/FAU are both in the AAC then the SBC should pick up FIU. Also WKU, MT work well in the SBC because Arkansas St is there.

UTEP->WAC
ODU->A10

It all depends on who does the striking first and if CUSA will have time to backfill.

Two major issues with this:

1. The SBC West schools refuse to consider FIU.
2. MTSU doesn't have the votes. Too many no's

There's some revisionist history that the the original defection from the SBC to CUSA went down well with all involved. It did not. It got ugly...ugly enough that several schools on both sides refuse to schedule each other.

AState has yet to play a single regular season series against a former SBC member in any sport outside of a single basketball series with FAU several years back.

(10-14-2021 10:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 06:58 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  The realignment rumors are kind of all over the map.

MWC-14 (UTSA, UNT)
AAC-14 (Rice, LaTech, UAB, Marshall, App St, FAU)
SBC-14 (USM, WKU, MT, Charlotte, FIU)

I think it does make sense for the SBC to grab a Florida presence. If USF/FAU are both in the AAC then the SBC should pick up FIU. Also WKU, MT work well in the SBC because Arkansas St is there.

UTEP->WAC
ODU->A10

It all depends on who does the striking first and if CUSA will have time to backfill.

Two major issues with this:

1. The SBC West schools refuse to consider FIU.
2. MTSU doesn't have the votes. Too many no's

There's some revisionist history that the the original defection from the SBC to CUSA went down well with all involved. It did not. It got ugly...ugly enough that several schools on both sides refuse to schedule each other.

AState has yet to play a single regular season series against a former SBC member in any sport outside of a single basketball series with FAU several years back.

It doesn't help when your commissioner adds new members without input from current league members. The addition of Georgia State without a vote? Without a discussion? Without vetting them in the least?

(10-14-2021 06:34 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 05:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 01:20 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Killing a conference is very hard, but I do see some plausible scenarios where it would be very hard to rebuild the CUSA shell

If AAC goes to 12 and takes 4 from CUSA - UAB, Charlotte, Rice, and Marshall
then
MWC and Sunbelt take 2 each - N Texas and UTSA to MWC and USM and ODU to the Sunbelt

That leaves the CUSA with a very odd couple mix of 6
FIU, FAU, WKU, MTSU, LA Tech, and UTEP

If that were to happen, you know MTSU and WKU would be pushing hard to join the MAC

If the MAC takes WKU and MTSU, I don't see how CUSA rebuilds, unless they become the FBS gateway conference for the 1AA schools that have been long rumored to be interested in upgrading.

If the AAC, MWC, and Sunbelt all take CUSA schools, will the conference have the ability to survive?

1) I feel like there are too many FCS programs with FBS aspirations for CUSA to die. Plus, that scenario has a lot of poaching. They could end up with 8-10 teams to rebuild with.

2) I'll be shocked if the SBC doesn't use this opportunity to find a way into Florida. It's ridiculous that they don't have a team there.

One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

Hashed and re-hashed but no we did not burn any bridges. I do hope we stay in CUSA though.

This is correct. WKU is the one former SBC member that would get the votes right now.

(10-14-2021 09:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 08:19 PM)galojah Wrote:  I just don't see a significant enough difference between C-USA and SBC for a team from either conference finding it worth the exit and entrance fees to jump. The revenues are nearly equal and I don't think two or four teams moving from one to the other will significantly change a media deal.

Yeah, I think the CUSA teams will jump to SB to be delusional.

Now I could easily see Texas St. jumping to CUSA as is. And maybe some of the easternmost teams. CUSA has an eastern core and western core. Sun Belt doesn't have the concentration even if it doesn't go all the way to El Paso and Norfolk. The geography for the eastern CUSA teams would be more problematic in the Sun Belt.

I'm not so sure at this time. The ongoing instability in the present time and other possible realignment coming in the near future just makes CUSA very iffy situation right now. Maybe in a few years when all the damage has been done and there are still Texas schools in CUSA then we'll consider. This also has to assume that the Texas CUSA schools want another Texas school in their conference which is not a given. Also CUSA East schools may throw a hissy fit over yet another Texas school joining. This doesn't even take into account the negative factors of CUSA such as not being an ESPN property which makes it that much more difficult to catch on TV.

The Sunbelt may not be a perfect fit for us, but its either way its been a great home and has allowed us to grab the popcorn and enjoy watching the trainwrecks that realignment causes. All within the relative safety and stability of our SBC home. We went through this back in 2012 with the death of the WAC as an FBS conference. First going to FCS school message boards and trying to encourage their fans to pressure their administrations to make the jump to the WAC while simultaneously going to CUSA, SBC, MWC begging all these conferences to save a spot for us. It got ugly.
I don't think that CUSA is going the way of the WAC and I don't certainly wish that upon them. This doesn't mean that I want Texas State to join, rather I"m thankful now that we were the "oddman out". The Texas school left out of CUSA and forced to join the left-for-dead Sunbelt. It hurt a lot actually at the time not to be included, and we've yet to play three out of four Texas CUSA schools (UNT, UTEP and Rice). However in the last ten years we've managed to get Texas Tech, Baylor, Houston, SMU and UTSA to come to San Marcos (played at their homes as well obviously) and have also played Texas A&M and will play the Longhorns I believen in 2025. Needless to say we've learned to make do without being in CUSA and done so in style. CUSA may or may not want TXST to join conference, and that's ok, because neither do we. In short, We're perfectly happy with our Sunbelt home and at the same time playing great Texas Schools

(10-14-2021 11:01 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 06:58 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  The realignment rumors are kind of all over the map.

MWC-14 (UTSA, UNT)
AAC-14 (Rice, LaTech, UAB, Marshall, App St, FAU)
SBC-14 (USM, WKU, MT, Charlotte, FIU)

I think it does make sense for the SBC to grab a Florida presence. If USF/FAU are both in the AAC then the SBC should pick up FIU. Also WKU, MT work well in the SBC because Arkansas St is there.

UTEP->WAC
ODU->A10

It all depends on who does the striking first and if CUSA will have time to backfill.

Two major issues with this:

1. The SBC West schools refuse to consider FIU.
2. MTSU doesn't have the votes. Too many no's

There's some revisionist history that the the original defection from the SBC to CUSA went down well with all involved. It did not. It got ugly...ugly enough that several schools on both sides refuse to schedule each other.

AState has yet to play a single regular season series against a former SBC member in any sport outside of a single basketball series with FAU several years back.

It doesn't help when your commissioner adds new members without input from current league members. The addition of Georgia State without a vote? Without a discussion? Without vetting them in the least?

Funny thing is, the opposition to Georgia State didn't come from the current SBC Members...it came from the ones that left. UNT left like 3 weeks after the Panthers were added.

Karl Benson's save the SBC plan didn't include trying to save UNT or FIU...He also made zero attempt to keep MTSU or FAU.

(10-14-2021 01:54 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 05:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 01:20 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Killing a conference is very hard, but I do see some plausible scenarios where it would be very hard to rebuild the CUSA shell

If AAC goes to 12 and takes 4 from CUSA - UAB, Charlotte, Rice, and Marshall
then
MWC and Sunbelt take 2 each - N Texas and UTSA to MWC and USM and ODU to the Sunbelt

That leaves the CUSA with a very odd couple mix of 6
FIU, FAU, WKU, MTSU, LA Tech, and UTEP

If that were to happen, you know MTSU and WKU would be pushing hard to join the MAC

If the MAC takes WKU and MTSU, I don't see how CUSA rebuilds, unless they become the FBS gateway conference for the 1AA schools that have been long rumored to be interested in upgrading.

If the AAC, MWC, and Sunbelt all take CUSA schools, will the conference have the ability to survive?

1) I feel like there are too many FCS programs with FBS aspirations for CUSA to die. Plus, that scenario has a lot of poaching. They could end up with 8-10 teams to rebuild with.

2) I'll be shocked if the SBC doesn't use this opportunity to find a way into Florida. It's ridiculous that they don't have a team there.

One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

MTSU or WKU won the Vic Bubas Cup every year in the Sun Belt as long as they were in the league. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette have been in Division 1-A much longer than those two--UL-Lafayette always having been D1. They suffered then from the same thing Southern Miss does in CUSA now--being angry at those schools who basically swept into their division and conference and passed them by. They don't have any lost love for FAU, FIU, and North Texas either. It has been their sick fantasy to see those five schools want to better themselves in Conference USA. They feel the same way about Louisiana Tech too for rejecting the Slum Belch to stay in the WAC around 2005-ish.

I see the revisionist history courses in Ruston are still going strong.

The opposition to Tech came before 2005. It came in the 1990's when the Big West Folded, the WAC Went to 16 and the SBC Formed. And the history of it formed long before even the 90's

But if we're going to be honest A40, if Tech wanted in the Sun Belt right now, they would have the votes. The only way they wouldn't is if South Alabama and Troy jumped up to say No...which I guess is possible.

(10-14-2021 11:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:54 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 05:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 01:20 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Killing a conference is very hard, but I do see some plausible scenarios where it would be very hard to rebuild the CUSA shell

If AAC goes to 12 and takes 4 from CUSA - UAB, Charlotte, Rice, and Marshall
then
MWC and Sunbelt take 2 each - N Texas and UTSA to MWC and USM and ODU to the Sunbelt

That leaves the CUSA with a very odd couple mix of 6
FIU, FAU, WKU, MTSU, LA Tech, and UTEP

If that were to happen, you know MTSU and WKU would be pushing hard to join the MAC

If the MAC takes WKU and MTSU, I don't see how CUSA rebuilds, unless they become the FBS gateway conference for the 1AA schools that have been long rumored to be interested in upgrading.

If the AAC, MWC, and Sunbelt all take CUSA schools, will the conference have the ability to survive?

1) I feel like there are too many FCS programs with FBS aspirations for CUSA to die. Plus, that scenario has a lot of poaching. They could end up with 8-10 teams to rebuild with.

2) I'll be shocked if the SBC doesn't use this opportunity to find a way into Florida. It's ridiculous that they don't have a team there.

One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

MTSU or WKU won the Vic Bubas Cup every year in the Sun Belt as long as they were in the league. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette have been in Division 1-A much longer than those two--UL-Lafayette always having been D1. They suffered then from the same thing Southern Miss does in CUSA now--being angry at those schools who basically swept into their division and conference and passed them by. They don't have any lost love for FAU, FIU, and North Texas either. It has been their sick fantasy to see those five schools want to better themselves in Conference USA. They feel the same way about Louisiana Tech too for rejecting the Slum Belch to stay in the WAC around 2005-ish.

I see the revisionist history courses in Ruston are still going strong.

The opposition to Tech came before 2005. It came in the 1990's when the Big West Folded, the WAC Went to 16 and the SBC Formed. And the history of it formed long before even the 90's

But if we're going to be honest A40, if Tech wanted in the Sun Belt right now, they would have the votes. The only way they wouldn't is if South Alabama and Troy jumped up to say No...which I guess is possible.

I don't live in Ruston, and I have never been to Ruston, and I really don't care how far back the hate goes. Victimhood mentality has always followed the Slum Belch. When La Tech joined the WAC instead of being a charter member of Belch football. When La Tech refused to leave the WAC after SMU, Rice, Tulsa, and UTEP left. When Utah State left the Belch. And then when North Texas, Florida International, Florida Atlantic, Middle Tennessee, and Western Kentucky left the Slum Belch. Always b****ing and crying by the Slum Belch members left back.

(10-15-2021 12:15 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 11:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:54 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 05:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  1) I feel like there are too many FCS programs with FBS aspirations for CUSA to die. Plus, that scenario has a lot of poaching. They could end up with 8-10 teams to rebuild with.

2) I'll be shocked if the SBC doesn't use this opportunity to find a way into Florida. It's ridiculous that they don't have a team there.

One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

MTSU or WKU won the Vic Bubas Cup every year in the Sun Belt as long as they were in the league. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette have been in Division 1-A much longer than those two--UL-Lafayette always having been D1. They suffered then from the same thing Southern Miss does in CUSA now--being angry at those schools who basically swept into their division and conference and passed them by. They don't have any lost love for FAU, FIU, and North Texas either. It has been their sick fantasy to see those five schools want to better themselves in Conference USA. They feel the same way about Louisiana Tech too for rejecting the Slum Belch to stay in the WAC around 2005-ish.

I see the revisionist history courses in Ruston are still going strong.

The opposition to Tech came before 2005. It came in the 1990's when the Big West Folded, the WAC Went to 16 and the SBC Formed. And the history of it formed long before even the 90's

But if we're going to be honest A40, if Tech wanted in the Sun Belt right now, they would have the votes. The only way they wouldn't is if South Alabama and Troy jumped up to say No...which I guess is possible.

I don't live in Ruston, and I have never been to Ruston, and I really don't care how far back the hate goes. Victimhood mentality has always followed the Slum Belch. When La Tech joined the WAC instead of being a charter member of Belch football. When La Tech refused to leave the WAC after SMU, Rice, Tulsa, and UTEP left. When Utah State left the Belch. And then when North Texas, Florida International, Florida Atlantic, Middle Tennessee, and Western Kentucky left the Slum Belch. Always b****ing and crying by the Slum Belch members left back.

Liar. We don’t know what your story is but it’s clearly not the one you are trying to peddle. For some reason or another you ‘get hard’ for all things ruston and/or coosa, and your hate for ULM, UL and the SBC is sick.
All of that = 100% ruston.

(10-15-2021 03:46 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(10-15-2021 12:15 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 11:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 01:54 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 12:33 AM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  One of the main things I learned during this realignment cycle is that the SBC is being pretty picky on which schools they want in the conference. Typically the SBC schools want a college town atmosphere with good to great football tradition and preferably within the existing footprint to minimize travel and to hopefully build some rivalries.. This is why everyone at the SBC board is excited for Southern Miss, because they fit the description above to a T. The Florida schools are both great schools but almost the exact opposite of what we're looking for. It would he a bad idea for both parties if they were to join. MTSU and WKU would be a good fits but to many burned bridges for them to come back. The other schools in CUSA dont fit the profile and as such shouldn't be considered. JMU would be a better fit.

MTSU or WKU won the Vic Bubas Cup every year in the Sun Belt as long as they were in the league. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette have been in Division 1-A much longer than those two--UL-Lafayette always having been D1. They suffered then from the same thing Southern Miss does in CUSA now--being angry at those schools who basically swept into their division and conference and passed them by. They don't have any lost love for FAU, FIU, and North Texas either. It has been their sick fantasy to see those five schools want to better themselves in Conference USA. They feel the same way about Louisiana Tech too for rejecting the Slum Belch to stay in the WAC around 2005-ish.

I see the revisionist history courses in Ruston are still going strong.

The opposition to Tech came before 2005. It came in the 1990's when the Big West Folded, the WAC Went to 16 and the SBC Formed. And the history of it formed long before even the 90's

But if we're going to be honest A40, if Tech wanted in the Sun Belt right now, they would have the votes. The only way they wouldn't is if South Alabama and Troy jumped up to say No...which I guess is possible.

I don't live in Ruston, and I have never been to Ruston, and I really don't care how far back the hate goes. Victimhood mentality has always followed the Slum Belch. When La Tech joined the WAC instead of being a charter member of Belch football. When La Tech refused to leave the WAC after SMU, Rice, Tulsa, and UTEP left. When Utah State left the Belch. And then when North Texas, Florida International, Florida Atlantic, Middle Tennessee, and Western Kentucky left the Slum Belch. Always b****ing and crying by the Slum Belch members left back.

Liar. We don’t know what your story is but it’s clearly not the one you are trying to peddle. For some reason or another you ‘get hard’ for all things ruston and/or coosa, and your hate for ULM, UL and the SBC is sick.
All of that = 100% ruston.

If anyone is sick it's you Franky.

(10-14-2021 11:05 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 11:01 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 06:58 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  The realignment rumors are kind of all over the map.

MWC-14 (UTSA, UNT)
AAC-14 (Rice, LaTech, UAB, Marshall, App St, FAU)
SBC-14 (USM, WKU, MT, Charlotte, FIU)

I think it does make sense for the SBC to grab a Florida presence. If USF/FAU are both in the AAC then the SBC should pick up FIU. Also WKU, MT work well in the SBC because Arkansas St is there.

UTEP->WAC
ODU->A10

It all depends on who does the striking first and if CUSA will have time to backfill.

Two major issues with this:

1. The SBC West schools refuse to consider FIU.
2. MTSU doesn't have the votes. Too many no's

There's some revisionist history that the the original defection from the SBC to CUSA went down well with all involved. It did not. It got ugly...ugly enough that several schools on both sides refuse to schedule each other.

AState has yet to play a single regular season series against a former SBC member in any sport outside of a single basketball series with FAU several years back.

It doesn't help when your commissioner adds new members without input from current league members. The addition of Georgia State without a vote? Without a discussion? Without vetting them in the least?

Funny thing is, the opposition to Georgia State didn't come from the current SBC Members...it came from the ones that left. UNT left like 3 weeks after the Panthers were added.

Karl Benson's save the SBC plan didn't include trying to save UNT or FIU...He also made zero attempt to keep MTSU or FAU.

The opposition to adding Georgia State without input is valid. Those schools left the Suck Belt because Karl Benson basically ruled by executive order that Georgia State would be added whether anyone liked it or not.